not gonna go into detail but there you go nadril, simple and easy.. detail it and crop into a sig size format,.. easy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh and ryan, show me something you made in photoshop and call me a random botton pusher, LMAO?

 

 

 

to be honest, i know how to gfx and no i dont push random bottons rofl.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look at that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

look at nadril.deviantart.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are a bit of difference's. :?

not really, tbh all i pushed was 3-5 bottons and look what i got from it already, its to simple plus annoying.

not really, tbh all i pushed was 3-5 bottons and look what i got from it already, its to simple plus annoying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of course, anyone can press buttons in it and get a piece of crap.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Same thing in photoshop as well. Although, i'm sure you already know that :wink:.

 

not really, tbh all i pushed was 3-5 bottons and look what i got from it already, its to simple plus annoying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of course, anyone can press buttons in it and get a piece of crap.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Same thing in photoshop as well. Although, i'm sure you already know that :wink:.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

um i dont push bottons in photoshop, it actually takes skill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if u got it, try something then compare it.

Lol, punch in some random numbers on terragen and it's all good and done...I don't think so. The picture you posted = Poo. You and all these people coming here with your stolen images saying that you have permission to mutate others work and call it your own and then ditch other peoples work considering you don't need to do anything anyway.. you just get a big fat stolen image and throw in some brush piles for a background

 

 

not really, tbh all i pushed was 3-5 bottons and look what i got from it already, its to simple plus annoying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of course, anyone can press buttons in it and get a piece of crap.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Same thing in photoshop as well. Although, i'm sure you already know that :wink:.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

um i dont push bottons in photoshop, it actually takes skill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if u got it, try something then compare it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure if you are saying I have no skill in photoshop, or what, but I can assure you I can do more than landscapes. Yes, I can even do abstract's, not to mention space scenes and a lot of other styles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not realy sure what you want me to prove here :?

tbh, i also do abs. and if i didn;t use images in grunge it would look so friggen plain. thats why abs sucks as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i got nothing agaist u nadril, but if those artists never did anything or never sued any of the long term websites OR shut down any of the websites who have been doing this, i dont think its any problem as long as nobody is selling for money.

tbh, i also do abs. and if i didn;t use images in grunge it would look so friggen plain. thats why abs sucks as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i got nothing agaist u nadril, but if those artists never did anything or never sued any of the long term websites OR shut down any of the websites who have been doing this, i dont think its any problem as long as nobody is selling for money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I actualy would consider what your posting abstract.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reason they don't shut them down is because it would cost too much, especialy sueing someone over a signature. It doesn't necisarily make it right though. And , at the least, I personaly think 99.99% of sigs look better without some video game image stuck in them.

Lol, punch in some random numbers on terragen and it's all good and done...I don't think so. The picture you posted = Poo. You and all these people coming here with your stolen images saying that you have permission to mutate others work and call it your own and then ditch other peoples work considering you don't need to do anything anyway.. you just get a big fat stolen image and throw in some brush piles for a background

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol? go do some brush piles and we'll compare it to mine then you'll see for youself, OH WAIT you dont even have the program i bet?

 

Lol, punch in some random numbers on terragen and it's all good and done...I don't think so. The picture you posted = Poo. You and all these people coming here with your stolen images saying that you have permission to mutate others work and call it your own and then ditch other peoples work considering you don't need to do anything anyway.. you just get a big fat stolen image and throw in some brush piles for a background

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol? go do some brush piles and we'll compare it to mine then you'll see for youself, OH WAIT you dont even have the program i bet?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't tend to work in Photoshop, I have the program yes but I don't like doing abs. I am more into pixeling and landscapes. I could tell you to do a Landscape and compare to mine as you have said for me to do some work in Ps and compare to yours. I atleast know my Renders in Terra aren't overshadowed by a Game character

*In this heated battle of wits things turn to the worst as Godslayer, so eager to finish the arguement, decides to take a brutal approach and solidly lunges his war hammer from over his shoulder into an aggresive stance, tension rises and silence fills the thread..*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Godslayer's tilted head though shadowed remained still as a single drop of sweat appeared from his forehead and ran quickly down to his chin where it halted ready to fall*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*His head raises to reveal two glearing eyes, rage could be felt in the atmosphere as his grip grew stronger..*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*In a sudden jolt Godslayer exploded off his feet as everyone jumped into defence, a solid swing crashed the nearest person to the ground whilst at the same time Godslayer swung his body through the air to kick another into Vivi_Pk standing not far behind*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*As the massacre continued Vivi_Pk found himself too dazed and confused about how his hard work brung on such pain and misery to follow what was happening ahead, through his eyes only blurred sillohetted figures could be seen.*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*As he raised his hands to his head the sound of blood splatter and broken bones seased and Vivi_Pk came to mental clarity, as he opened his eyes the figure of Godslayer stood over an unknown corpse appeared and Vivi_Pk sat up to discover the area was filled those of the same.*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*"Why?" announced Vivi_Pk as Godslayer dropped his weapon and turned for eye contact, "Simple, I was just p!ssed off.." *

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see, this arguement if not stopped may soon push someone too far, in the 'made up short story' above it was Godslayer (just chose you cus you usually own the conversation with these sorta arguements :P) but a little too unreal to forum circumstances :?, thankfully this topic about stealing images will stop soon cus people will most likely know that people of tip.it don't take kindly to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I personally don't think renders look bad if they're done well but I agree 100% with the whole 'stealing images is wrong!!' thing, though millions of people around the world im sure wouldn't be bothered :?, its not like they'll arrest or charge the millions of people doing it :lol: . The best thing to do is to simply not do it yourself and advice not force people to do the same, I would still love to see some sigs with renders made by the signature artists but I don't think most of these people can do that good graphics without the aid of a program like photoshop, theyre not necessarily artists so I wouldn't expect most to go out of their way to try make their own..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like your work very much Vivi :D no matter what people say, Ive tried sig making a few times and I see how hard it is at times, I just plain suck at it.. If these people are correct by saying renders make sigs look bad then if you make one without any I bet it'll look just amazing 8) .. I'll be watching to see.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry for the pointlessness at the start of this post :D ~ Ter

aightly then, ill go email some people who actually do artist work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if i find anyone ill email them and reply back here.

*In this heated battle of wits things turn to the worst as Godslayer, so eager to finish the arguement, decides to take a brutal approach and solidly lunges his war hammer from over his shoulder into an aggresive stance, tension rises and silence fills the thread..*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Godslayer's tilted head though shadowed remained still as a single drop of sweat appeared from his forehead and ran quickly down to his chin where it halted ready to fall*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*His head raises to reveal two glearing eyes, rage could be felt in the atmosphere as his grip grew stronger..*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*In a sudden jolt Godslayer exploded off his feet as everyone jumped into defence, a solid swing crashed the nearest person to the ground whilst at the same time Godslayer swung his body through the air to kick another into Vivi_Pk standing not far behind*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*As the massacre continued Vivi_Pk found himself too dazed and confused about how his hard work brung on such pain and misery to follow what was happening ahead, through his eyes only blurred sillohetted figures could be seen.*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*As he raised his hands to his head the sound of blood splatter and broken bones seased and Vivi_Pk came to mental clarity, as he opened his eyes the figure of Godslayer stood over an unknown corpse appeared and Vivi_Pk sat up to discover the area was filled those of the same.*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*"Why?" announced Vivi_Pk as Godslayer dropped his weapon and turned for eye contact, "Simple, I was just p!ssed off.." *

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see, this arguement if not stopped may soon push someone too far, in the 'made up short story' above it was Godslayer (just chose you cus you usually own the conversation with these sorta arguements :P) but a little too unreal to forum circumstances :?, thankfully this topic about stealing images will stop soon cus people will most likely know that people of tip.it don't take kindly to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I personally don't think renders look bad if they're done well but I agree 100% with the whole 'stealing images is wrong!!' thing, though millions of people around the world im sure wouldn't be bothered :?, its not like they'll arrest or charge the millions of people doing it :lol: . The best thing to do is to simply not do it yourself and advice not force people to do the same, I would still love to see some sigs with renders made by the signature artists but I don't think most of these people can do that good graphics without the aid of a program like photoshop, theyre not necessarily artists so I wouldn't expect most to go out of their way to try make their own..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like your work very much Vivi :D no matter what people say, Ive tried sig making a few times and I see how hard it is at times, I just plain suck at it.. If these people are correct by saying renders make sigs look bad then if you make one without any I bet it'll look just amazing 8) .. I'll be watching to see.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry for the pointlessness at the start of this post :D ~ Ter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol nice... yeah but this is my first time posting actually sigs i made here, i put renders on them because...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. so its not plain

 

 

 

2. looks better.

 

 

 

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thx for the comment tho :)

 

 

 

ill try somethin without using an image, ppl will just say its to plain and has no concept. :(

 

 

 

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also tons of great designers go to

 

 

 

http://www.sigsource.com

 

 

 

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and nadril, so the ppl who do these types of sigs at devart, you call them no skilled 'rippers'?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

because half the ppl or more do the exact same thing as i just did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry for the pointlessness at the start of this post :D ~ Ter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bwaha, pointless? I think not? :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

..Anyways, I don't really want to join this fued, this guy doesn't really deserve his topic closed. :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry for the pointlessness at the start of this post :D ~ Ter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bwaha, pointless? I think not? :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

..Anyways, I don't really want to join this fued, this guy doesn't really deserve his topic closed. :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well i thank the admins to not close this yet, because its actually making a point across with so many opinions... and no1 has flamed any1 yet tbh.. its fair game i think

and nadril, so the ppl who do these types of sigs at devart, you call them no skilled 'rippers'?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

because half the ppl or more do the exact same thing as i just did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've yet to see any of the big artists at deviantart do something like that. Infact, I rarly see anyone at deviantart posting signatures :?

 

and nadril, so the ppl who do these types of sigs at devart, you call them no skilled 'rippers'?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

because half the ppl or more do the exact same thing as i just did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've yet to see any of the big artists at deviantart do something like that. Infact, I rarly see anyone at deviantart posting signatures :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

90% of the ppl at sigsource.com got an account at devart.

 

 

 

and they all do it, so if 90% there, now imagin if 60% of all gfx sites got an account on devart who does it.

 

and nadril, so the ppl who do these types of sigs at devart, you call them no skilled 'rippers'?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

because half the ppl or more do the exact same thing as i just did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've yet to see any of the big artists at deviantart do something like that. Infact, I rarly see anyone at deviantart posting signatures :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

some here, taking photos and changing them to make them look different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://browse.deviantart.com/digitalart/photomanip/misc/?view=1&order=5&limit=24&startts=1124438422&endts=1124956822

 

 

and nadril, so the ppl who do these types of sigs at devart, you call them no skilled 'rippers'?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

because half the ppl or more do the exact same thing as i just did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've yet to see any of the big artists at deviantart do something like that. Infact, I rarly see anyone at deviantart posting signatures :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

some here, taking photos and changing them to make them look different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://browse.deviantart.com/digitalart/photomanip/misc/?view=1&order=5&limit=24&startts=1124438422&endts=1124956822

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's called a photomanipulation. Using your own photos or stock photos.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a huge difference between those and using little video game things your not permited to use.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.sxc.hu/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Example of a very good stock photo. Here people submit their photos that, by submiting here, they allow for others to use. Of course, you must read their term's they have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Nadril

well we talked it over in sigsource.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and we came to a 'conclusion' that if the game companies take screen shots of them, why cant we? so its basically the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also. its like a walking advertisment for them anyways, so why would they want to do anything to stop it?

well we talked it over in sigsource.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and we came to a 'conclusion' that if the game companies take screen shots of them, why cant we? so its basically the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also. its like a walking advertisment for them anyways, so why would they want to do anything to stop it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, them taking screen's of their on work and you doing the same thing is not the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could say in that example I gave you earlier, me taking your sig and changing it, that it's just a "walking advertisement" for you. But i'm sure a lot of people wouldn't like that would they?

Sigs cant walk :D

 

well we talked it over in sigsource.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and we came to a 'conclusion' that if the game companies take screen shots of them, why cant we? so its basically the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also. its like a walking advertisment for them anyways, so why would they want to do anything to stop it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, them taking screen's of their on work and you doing the same thing is not the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could say in that example I gave you earlier, me taking your sig and changing it, that it's just a "walking advertisement" for you. But i'm sure a lot of people wouldn't like that would they?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ugh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i meant taking the screen shot of the game while playing it not the 1s they took..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what u did to my sig, i dont care if u used the image, but what u did to my bg was plain dumb imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also it is a walkin advertisement for them, therefor they wont do anything. thx.

 

 

well we talked it over in sigsource.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and we came to a 'conclusion' that if the game companies take screen shots of them, why cant we? so its basically the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also. its like a walking advertisment for them anyways, so why would they want to do anything to stop it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, them taking screen's of their on work and you doing the same thing is not the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could say in that example I gave you earlier, me taking your sig and changing it, that it's just a "walking advertisement" for you. But i'm sure a lot of people wouldn't like that would they?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ugh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i meant taking the screen shot of the game while playing it not the 1s they took..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what u did to my sig, i dont care if u used the image, but what u did to my bg was plain dumb imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also it is a walkin advertisement for them, therefor they wont do anything. thx.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Explain please? you are taking their stuff (wow, you took a screenshot in the game... would it make a difference if I took a prnt-screen of your sig?) and mutulizing it. I'm sorry, but it realy is not good advertisment putting something in a lame grunge/abstract background. What I did to your sig and what you are doing to their stuff is the same thing. Sure, you might not think that, of course, the sig is yours. But it is the same.

well you can think anyway u want, but you cant do anything to stop it

 

 

 

millions of ppl are doing it, so theres no biggie. please and my bgs arn't lame lol.. better then ur 10min work punching in numbers to get a mountian then just touching it up in some rendering program.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well... without the easy step of touching it up and resizing it 20mins of ever using this simple program and look wat i get.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh and if your tryin to stop ppl from doign what i do...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

go register at sigsource.com

 

 

 

and you tell 1300+ members that what their doing is wrong.

 

 

 

No really please, go try it.. and then we can all discuss it with their opinions.. because they been doing it longer than i.