Saradomin Sword still a good stength training weapon?

[pikachu54673]

Hey, I just have a short question here.

 

 

 

I stopped playing RS in May of 2008 and just started up again today. I want to do some strength training, but I've noticed that the saradomin sword is worth 4M less than it was a year ago... Is there a new alternative that I should be aware of? Thanks!

[Death123141]

SS is still the best there is just more of them.

[Championfurydelta123]

Yup, its better than GS and Dragon Scimitar and I'm 100% sure its better than all-arounding whip :) GL with strength!

[Zaaps1]

It depends on what you're killing. If you're killing high defense monsters, then SS is the best option. However, if the monsters are normal or low defense, then you're better off with the Zerker Necklace combo.

 

 

 

However, the best option is still to train with whip on controlled.

[Randox]

SS is till best for focused str training, but anyone with a defender will find the whip should perform better against high defense monsters, unless said monster is weak to crush attacks.

[Death123141]

It depends on what you're killing. If you're killing high defense monsters, then SS is the best option. However, if the monsters are normal or low defense, then you're better off with the Zerker Necklace combo.

 

 

 

However, the best option is still to train with whip on controlled.

 

How would the zerker combo beat the ss?

 

 

[Zaaps1]

20% bonus isn't shown.

 

 

 

It all depends on the monster. If the defense is low, then you can ignore the fact that it gives lower attack bonuses.

[Death123141]

20% bonus isn't shown.

 

 

 

It all depends on the monster. If the defense is low, then you can ignore the fact that it gives lower attack bonuses.

 

61*.2=12.2+61=73.2

 

90>>73.2

[purewcnub]

Max with Ss, Neiznot, Fury, dragon gloves, and d boots is 25. Max with the zerker combo plus afformentioned setup and rune defender is 23. Saradomin sword is more accurate, faster, and hits higher. SS is better in every aspect except budget, but that's what gives it it's price. Although the zerker combo is nice if you are on a low budget.

 

 

 

Conclusion:

 

Best for price and effectiveness: Zerker combo

 

Blows combo out of the water(if you don't have to waste all your money on it): Saradomin sword.

 

 

 

Source: Tip.it's max hit calculator.

[Zaaps1]

20% bonus isn't shown.

 

 

 

It all depends on the monster. If the defense is low, then you can ignore the fact that it gives lower attack bonuses.

 

61*.2=12.2+61=73.2

 

90>>73.2

 

 

 

Strength bonus does not correlate with strength level, or direct damage.

 

 

 

Increases the amount of damage wearer does when wielding an obsidian melee weapon by 20%

 

 

 

So that's a DIRECT INCREASE in the damage. Strength bonus is an indirect increase. 1 point of strength bonus does not mean 1 higher damage. 1 point of strength damage does equal 1 higher damage.

 

 

 

So if at 90 strength bonus you could hit 27s, but at 61 you hit 23s, then you would take 20% of 23 and add it to every hit that connects. Rounding to the nearest whole number, that's 28. And remember two things:

 

 

 

1) Higher bonus does not mean you will hit higher on average, while directly increasing the damage you do DOES guarantee that you will hit higher.

 

 

 

2) That was at 99 strength. The difference is obviously more prominent at lower levels.

[Inuashakent]

Add 33 strength bonus to the 90 and 61, and you get 123 and 94. You can't forget to add the standard equipment, too. At 90 Strength, Piety and Super strength (standard training conditions at AZ, the most commonly trained monster)

 

 

 

Max hit at 123 = 47

 

Max hit at 94 = 40 + 20% = 48

 

 

 

There is no monster that is currently commonly trained that the 1 higher max hit gets outdone by the 35 accuracy + decrease due to the obby necklace.

 

 

 

Obby sword can't compare with the SS due to it's horrendous accuracy.

[go2guy]

ss, is best str trainer imo :thumbsup:

[3hitm4g3u]

Max with Ss, Neiznot, Fury, dragon gloves, and d boots is 25. Max with the zerker combo plus afformentioned setup and rune defender is 23. Saradomin sword is more accurate, faster, and hits higher. SS is better in every aspect except budget, but that's what gives it it's price. Although the zerker combo is nice if you are on a low budget.

 

 

 

Conclusion:

 

Best for price and effectiveness: Zerker combo

 

Blows combo out of the water(if you don't have to waste all your money on it): Saradomin sword.

 

 

 

Source: Tip.it's max hit calculator.

 

 

 

Tip.it's max hit calculator adds an extra +1 to your max hit for some reason.

 

 

 

So if it says you hit 40 with whip, you actually hit 39.

[Tribbleman]

Tip.it's max hit calculator adds an extra +1 to your max hit for some reason.

 

 

 

So if it says you hit 40 with whip, you actually hit 39.

 

Only sometimes, and it depends on your strength level ;) At my 90 str, it gives me a +1 on my max hit with slayer helm but the correct max hit without slayer helm. And it also gives an exact max hit on my void/salve setup for AZs.

 

 

 

Back on topic... Even if the zerker combo hits higher, the attack bonus of the ss outweighs an increase in max hit of 1 or 2. since you will hit 0s less often, and therefore, do more damage in the long run ;)

[JoeDaStudd]

It depends on what you're killing. If you're killing high defense monsters, then SS is the best option. However, if the monsters are normal or low defense, then you're better off with the Zerker Necklace combo.

 

 

 

However, the best option is still to train with whip on controlled.

 

How would the zerker combo beat the ss?

 

 

 

Your missing the point of the combo.

 

SS and fury is about 8m compared to the obby combo less then 500k.

 

 

 

Any way SS is pretty much the best str wep although depending on the situation the obby combo, d scimmy or a GS will com close or be better.