perfetc Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 I was thinking of getting a gs for high level monsters in quest and stuff thats all. I was only asking about wether it trains att and def or not is so I can set it to att or def so I don't accidently train str and level it ... the last thing I want to do is level str to 80 before I get 95 att and def. IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomkoed Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 you wouldnt care if it gave 100 str bonous lol The game haha you lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeor Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I've only skimmed the thread but I'll give my input on godswords. I bought a bgs a while back and I was not impressed with it at all. It was slow and didn't hit all that high. Granted, my attack and strength are 85 and 83 respectively, but I didn't see much of a difference than when I fought with my whip. It could be better on stronger monsters, but I wouldn't get one unless you had lots of money to spare or unless you got an sgs or an ags. And why in the world do you want your strength to be so low? Uneven combat stats are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 you wouldnt care if it gave 100 str bonous lol I would care not a jot (in other words I couldn't care less : ) I've only skimmed the thread but I'll give my input on godswords. I bought a bgs a while back and I was not impressed with it at all. It was slow and didn't hit all that high. Granted, my attack and strength are 85 and 83 respectively, but I didn't see much of a difference than when I fought with my whip. It could be better on stronger monsters, but I wouldn't get one unless you had lots of money to spare or unless you got an sgs or an ags. And why in the world do you want your strength to be so low? Uneven combat stats are terrible. I don't want it low I just dont need to hit high think of it like this .... given a choice between an item that gave +100 str or an item that gave +100 attack, I would choose +100 every time without even thinking about. Like if some body do you want £100 no strings attached 100% real cash ... would you say no? You wouldn't even think about would you. With my current set up and str level I can hit 22, some people will think 22 is crap and really low but it's enough for me. Anyway most people pay 10 times as much for stuff that increases str the same amount that something increases att, such as the warrior and beserker ring. People are fanatical about str to such an extent they do everything to get more of it which forces the price up and the price of everything else goes down or stays the same so I am not complaining. IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 you wouldnt care if it gave 100 str bonous lol I would care not a jot (in other words I couldn't care less : ) I've only skimmed the thread but I'll give my input on godswords. I bought a bgs a while back and I was not impressed with it at all. It was slow and didn't hit all that high. Granted, my attack and strength are 85 and 83 respectively, but I didn't see much of a difference than when I fought with my whip. It could be better on stronger monsters, but I wouldn't get one unless you had lots of money to spare or unless you got an sgs or an ags. And why in the world do you want your strength to be so low? Uneven combat stats are terrible. I don't want it low I just dont need to hit high think of it like this .... given a choice between an item that gave +100 str or an item that gave +100 attack, I would choose +100 every time without even thinking about. Like if some body do you want £100 no strings attached 100% real cash ... would you say no? You wouldn't even think about would you. With my current set up and str level I can hit 22, some people will think 22 is crap and really low but it's enough for me. Anyway most people pay 10 times as much for stuff that increases str the same amount that something increases att, such as the warrior and beserker ring. People are fanatical about str to such an extent they do everything to get more of it which forces the price up and the price of everything else goes down or stays the same so I am not complaining. Well the increase the warrior ring has doesn't help out as much as the str from the beserker ring. This has been stated a few times. Now with those new rings coming from MA, i believe that some people will start using the onyx ring that gives +8, or +6 i don't remember, in all attack and defense stats. Making it much better then the warrior ring, and slightly better then the beserker ring. And which would you choose +100 attack or str? You never did say which. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 Sorry, it was +100 att (I was distracted by this crazy film on tv ... bowfinger) I agree with MA warrior and beserker rings are old news but I still prefer my warrior over a beserker any day. Of course that doesnt matter now due to the onyx ring. IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meme79 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 cant enchant zeker rings XBL gamertag: SeismicTriangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 cant enchant zeker rings I know -.- [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeor Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I'm also a fan of the warrior ring, but you've got to realize that higher strength helps out a LOT. You get better exp rates, kill monsters faster, and get the novelty of hitting big numbers. I'd say it's about even in usefulness with attack, and I see no reason in keeping uneven levels. Though to each his own, I guess. Just saying it's not what I would do :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 You massivly underestimate strength. It seems to me like you are just trying to be an "accuracy is better then strength!" zealot. Well, let me say this, both attack and strength are equally important. I know, I used to be exactly like you. Then, I decided to get my strength up, it was level 82 at the time, while my attack was 99, and I was amazed at how much higher and more consistantly I was hitting. Y'see, accuracy only affects whether you hit a zero, or something that isn't a zero. Strength is what affects your hits, and the higher your strength level, the higher your max hit, and thus, a better chance to hit a higher number. You say you are disgusted by strength fanatics? Attack fanatics such as yourself are just as bad, if not as abundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 You massivly underestimate strength. It seems to me like you are just trying to be an "accuracy is better then strength!" zealot. Well, let me say this, both attack and strength are equally important. I know, I used to be exactly like you. Then, I decided to get my strength up, it was level 82 at the time, while my attack was 99, and I was amazed at how much higher and more consistantly I was hitting. Y'see, accuracy only affects whether you hit a zero, or something that isn't a zero. Strength is what affects your hits, and the higher your strength level, the higher your max hit, and thus, a better chance to hit a higher number. You say you are disgusted by strength fanatics? Attack fanatics such as yourself are just as bad, if not as abundant. I don't think I said I was disgusted with them, thats a bit strong. I see the usefulness of str thats why it is the level that it is, surly if I didn't see it's usefulness it would be level 1. I understand everything about str but I don't need to hit higher, I don't kill for money etc so I hitting less is actually an advantage to me (I train at ape atoll, not the skele monkey's, which heal themselvs so if I don't kill them I can stand there hitting the same monkey for ages rather than killing it then clicking on a new 1 etc). When it comes time to do a quest or whatever I can take a sip of a super str and be effective at killing it cos I already have the high accuracy. I see no reason in keeping uneven levels. I had even levels pre 70 (I got level 5 in attack followed by str followed by def then level 10 in that order all the way till 70) and I seemed to take longer killing things than people at a lower level than me so I decided to train my attack all the way up cos I would prefer to hit consistantly low numbers than a string of zero's followed by any number that could range from 1-50 IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 If anything, you can wear the defender just to show that you have one. Not really a show off item, every body and there dog seems to have 1 ... except me of course lol its sad if your dog got one but you dont have it I LOL'D HARD You say you are disgusted by strength fanatics? Attack fanatics such as yourself are just as bad, if not as abundant. I agree, although, when I train I purposely train strength last due to the fact I rather the other 2 skills. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 Its obviously not true though, if it was do you really think items such as the previously mentioned warrior and beserker rings would be polls apart? No, they would be either 2 mill or 200k each (roughly). Look at the price of bandos to dragon dragon has better defensive stats (not including boots or helm) but due to the obsessive nature some people have towards str, bandos is about 3 times as much. The whole game revolves around the persuit of str as a prime example look at what is the only potion f2p's can get .... that's right str pot. IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Bandos is also rarer than Dragon And not to mention Jagex are stupid so they dont give worthless attack / defence potions to F2P even though noone uses them... I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 I'm not sure sure about rarer, I did use dragon plate body which needs 3 pieces to be made by people over 90 (guess) smithing not to many of them. Although wgs brings in alot of pieces of the armour. IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I'm not sure sure about rarer, I did use dragon plate body which needs 3 pieces to be made by people over 90 (guess) smithing not to many of them. Although wgs brings in alot of pieces of the armour. And I think, dont quote me on this, people who camp at TD's for claws get dragon armour pieces.. I think I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 I'm not sure sure about rarer, I did use dragon plate body which needs 3 pieces to be made by people over 90 (guess) smithing not to many of them. Although wgs brings in alot of pieces of the armour. And I think, dont quote me on this, people who camp at TD's for claws get dragon armour pieces.. I think Sorry, I could resist :P Yes, you pieces from TD's thats how you complete the set =] IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Bandos also has a prayer bonus and better range defense. It is far superior to dragon when you factor these in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 Bandos also has a prayer bonus and better range defense. It is far superior to dragon when you factor these in as well. What about if you factor in the full helm, the shield and the boots (boots on both sets of course)? Is bandos still the best defensivly? IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Bandos also has a prayer bonus and better range defense. It is far superior to dragon when you factor these in as well. What about if you factor in the full helm, the shield and the boots (boots on both sets of course)? Is bandos still the best defensivly? Neitzot, dragon boots, and rune defender Why would you bother using bandos boots, dragon full helm, and dragon square/dfs when there are better alternatives? Your argument is redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 Bandos also has a prayer bonus and better range defense. It is far superior to dragon when you factor these in as well. What about if you factor in the full helm, the shield and the boots (boots on both sets of course)? Is bandos still the best defensivly? Neitzot, dragon boots, and rune defender Why would you bother using bandos boots, dragon full helm, and dragon square/dfs when there are better alternatives? Your argument is redundant. Your argument is going further off topic than it already is. It started off asking about god swords and it got turned into a str debate, now its about the best set up ... for whatever reason. What next the best runecrafting methods? :lol: I said out of full bandos and full dragon plate, dragon plate has better defensive stats and is about 3 times cheaper. Bandos is only so expensive cos of the str bonus, I bet if you took that away from it, it would be about 15/20 mill. That is only my opinoin though. IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Dragon Platebody vs Bandos Chestplate Dragon Platelegs vs Bandos Tassets Looking at those, Dragon Platebody as better slash and stab defence then the BCP. But the BCP has the better range, +1 prayer and +4 Str that the Dragon Platebody doesn't. Now with the Dragon Platelegs and Tassets, tassets blow the d legs out of the water. D legs only have a better slash while the tassets have better, everything else. And for it going off topic. You're as much to blame as any one else. Since you keep bringing up something else we also bring up things to show you how they differ then what you said. Look at the price of the dragon platebody and d legs. 10m for the body and 744k for the d legs. Spend a few mill more and you can get a BCP. Now the d legs are extremely cheap, but tassets beat them in all areas. Also all the barrow items have better stats, how come they are dirt cheap? Its has as much to do with it as the str bonus, as to how many are in the game already. There are tons of d legs (metal drag campers), barrows pieces (barrow runners) compared to the dragon platebody and the bandos items. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfetc Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Dragon Platebody vs Bandos Chestplate Dragon Platelegs vs Bandos Tassets Looking at those, Dragon Platebody as better slash and stab defence then the BCP. But the BCP has the better range, +1 prayer and +4 Str that the Dragon Platebody doesn't. Now with the Dragon Platelegs and Tassets, tassets blow the d legs out of the water. D legs only have a better slash while the tassets have better, everything else. And for it going off topic. You're as much to blame as any one else. Since you keep bringing up something else we also bring up things to show you how they differ then what you said. Look at the price of the dragon platebody and d legs. 10m for the body and 744k for the d legs. Spend a few mill more and you can get a BCP. Now the d legs are extremely cheap, but tassets beat them in all areas. Also all the barrow items have better stats, how come they are dirt cheap? Its has as much to do with it as the str bonus, as to how many are in the game already. There are tons of d legs (metal drag campers), barrows pieces (barrow runners) compared to the dragon platebody and the bandos items. BCP? :? Spend a few mill more, its about 3 times as much thats a substantial amount. IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 But the strength bonus on bandos plate and tassets is enough to add about 3 damage to your max hit, and that will help quite a damn lot in the long run. It is better, thus, its worth more, just like fury is 50? times more expensive than glory, even though it only offers a little bit more defense. Because its better, more people will want it. It doesn't matter how much better it is, it's just better. I think this is really basic logic here :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_R Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 don't get a gs to train, get a fast weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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