JaGEx >_<

[Sir_Kurity]

I still think quests are so not the way to judge someones experience in the game.

[quelmotz]

quelmotz & co, get out. I said I wanted looser trade limits, not no trade limits at all. The quest cape solution is a dumb idea because you're out of RWTer territory long before you get on of those. The security key is a dumb idea because it's just another key to forget the location of. And also having to wait for a physical object to arrive in the mail so you can get an advantadge in a virtual game is dumb. And what about people who play from workplaces where you're not allowed to use USB devices in the workstations?

 

 

 

You call them "dumb ideas". But too bad, those are just about the best solutions to loosen up trade limits. Take it or leave it.

 

 

 

P.S. I haven't seen any of your "better" solutions. Criticism is easy eh?

 

The solution is to loosen up the trade limits as much as is possible without bringing back RWTing. Considering that most botters traded millions of GP per transaction, I could see at least a few thousand extra GP in the beginning limit and a much steeper increase as you head toward the QP cape. I recant on the quest cape = unlimited idea. It COULD work, as long as it's not implemented as a stand-alone solution. If QPCers get unlimited trade, what good does that do the other 99.5% of players, many of whom may never get a quest cape?

 

 

 

Quest Cape owners deserve unlimited trade because they put in a lot of effort into the game. The other 99.5% can already trade quite a lot of gp with SOME quest points. I don't think you really need to trade more than 100k/h honestly.

 

 

 

You're saying loosen up trade limits. Isn't 10k per 15 minutes enough? Most people wouldn't be that generous to give a friend 40k in an hour. And with more QP, you get to trade about 20k or so per 15 min or more, which is FAR more than enough.

 

 

 

I still think quests are so not the way to judge someones experience in the game.

 

 

 

Hah. Quests are one of the best ways, as it is almost impossible to have a skill that is fully anti-bot. Quests, on the other hand, are nearly impossible to complete with bots, and with humans would take a few months or so of intensive playing.

[Sir_Kurity]

You realize that both people need to have the trade limit for a trade to go through.

 

 

 

If someone is already botting, he wouldn't bother rwting for money. And if he wasent a bot it would take a long time for him to get a high total level/xp.

[quelmotz]

You realize that both people need to have the trade limit for a trade to go through.

 

 

 

If someone is already botting, he wouldn't bother rwting for money. And if he wasent a bot it would take a long time for him to get a high total level/xp.

 

 

 

Yeah, so?

 

 

 

10k in 1 go is a lot of money for a beginner.

 

 

 

There are already better anti-bot software to catch bots, anyway.

[Gerbil]

10-15k to start sounds good, along with a much sharper increas with QP.

[Sir_Kurity]

 

 

 

Yeah, so?

 

 

 

10k in 1 go is a lot of money for a beginner.

 

 

 

There are already better anti-bot software to catch bots, anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Forgive me if i have no idea what your on about.

 

 

 

Basically, i see no disadvantage for the trade limit to be based off total XP.

 

 

 

Prehaps less for skills like cooking, etc, but it seems better than QP.

[canadiansmurf]

I Gerbil, gives him 10k

[quelmotz]

 

 

 

Yeah, so?

 

 

 

10k in 1 go is a lot of money for a beginner.

 

 

 

There are already better anti-bot software to catch bots, anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Forgive me if i have no idea what your on about.

 

 

 

Basically, i see no disadvantage for the trade limit to be based off total XP.

 

 

 

Prehaps less for skills like cooking, etc, but it seems better than QP.

 

 

 

I've said it once, and I'll say it again - SKILLS ARE NOT anti-bot. Quests are. Enough said.

[Sir_Kurity]

 

 

 

Yeah, so?

 

 

 

10k in 1 go is a lot of money for a beginner.

 

 

 

There are already better anti-bot software to catch bots, anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Forgive me if i have no idea what your on about.

 

 

 

Basically, i see no disadvantage for the trade limit to be based off total XP.

 

 

 

Prehaps less for skills like cooking, etc, but it seems better than QP.

 

 

 

I've said it once, and I'll say it again - SKILLS ARE NOT anti-bot. Quests are. Enough said.

 

 

 

BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

 

 

 

IF YOU BOT, THEN YOUR NOT GOING TO RWT WHEN YOU CAN JUST BOT YOUR MONEY.

[Rosanante1]

i really think trade limit was a nice update

 

 

 

+1 =D>

[Jaffy1]

i really think trade limit was a nice update

 

 

 

+1 =D>

I agree.

 

 

 

I also agree with quel on the Quest Point trade limit enlarging. Skills can be botted, and Quests can't. Besides, this is also a nudge to people to do Quests and unlock/discover/explore more aspects and things to do in the game.

 

 

 

Trade limits also have more on the good side than the bad.

 

-No more scammers (or less).

 

-No more hackers (or less).

 

-No more noob bots that transfer things to non-bot mains.

 

-Only main bots to get banned.

 

-Enlarged trade limits to be able to earn a fair penny anyways (selling random items to those in need or lending items for example).

[quelmotz]

 

 

 

Yeah, so?

 

 

 

10k in 1 go is a lot of money for a beginner.

 

 

 

There are already better anti-bot software to catch bots, anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Forgive me if i have no idea what your on about.

 

 

 

Basically, i see no disadvantage for the trade limit to be based off total XP.

 

 

 

Prehaps less for skills like cooking, etc, but it seems better than QP.

 

 

 

I've said it once, and I'll say it again - SKILLS ARE NOT anti-bot. Quests are. Enough said.

 

 

 

BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

 

 

 

IF YOU BOT, THEN YOUR NOT GOING TO RWT WHEN YOU CAN JUST BOT YOUR MONEY.

 

 

 

NO PEOPLE USING BOTS MIGHT STILL WANT TO ABUSE THEIR "POWER" BY TRADING LARGE AMOUNTS OF $$$ TO THEIR FRIENDS, GIVING THEM AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. SO THERE.

[perfetc]

 

 

 

Yeah, so?

 

 

 

10k in 1 go is a lot of money for a beginner.

 

 

 

There are already better anti-bot software to catch bots, anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Forgive me if i have no idea what your on about.

 

 

 

Basically, i see no disadvantage for the trade limit to be based off total XP.

 

 

 

Prehaps less for skills like cooking, etc, but it seems better than QP.

 

 

 

I've said it once, and I'll say it again - SKILLS ARE NOT anti-bot. Quests are. Enough said.

 

 

 

BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

 

 

 

IF YOU BOT, THEN YOUR NOT GOING TO RWT WHEN YOU CAN JUST BOT YOUR MONEY.

 

 

 

NO PEOPLE USING BOTS MIGHT STILL WANT TO ABUSE THEIR "POWER" BY TRADING LARGE AMOUNTS OF $$$ TO THEIR FRIENDS, GIVING THEM AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. SO THERE.

 

 

 

Two questions.

 

 

 

1) what has this little bot argument have to do with the title of this thread?

 

 

 

2) WHY IS EVERYTHING IN CAPS?

[quelmotz]

 

 

 

Yeah, so?

 

 

 

10k in 1 go is a lot of money for a beginner.

 

 

 

There are already better anti-bot software to catch bots, anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Forgive me if i have no idea what your on about.

 

 

 

Basically, i see no disadvantage for the trade limit to be based off total XP.

 

 

 

Prehaps less for skills like cooking, etc, but it seems better than QP.

 

 

 

I've said it once, and I'll say it again - SKILLS ARE NOT anti-bot. Quests are. Enough said.

 

 

 

BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

 

 

 

IF YOU BOT, THEN YOUR NOT GOING TO RWT WHEN YOU CAN JUST BOT YOUR MONEY.

 

 

 

NO PEOPLE USING BOTS MIGHT STILL WANT TO ABUSE THEIR "POWER" BY TRADING LARGE AMOUNTS OF $$$ TO THEIR FRIENDS, GIVING THEM AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. SO THERE.

 

 

 

Two questions.

 

 

 

1) what has this little bot argument have to do with the title of this thread?

 

 

 

2) WHY IS EVERYTHING IN CAPS?

 

 

 

Ask Estorrath. He started both arguments. I don't know why he typed out everything in caps.

[Jaffy1]

Ask Estorrath. He started both arguments. I don't know why he typed out everything in caps.

Because immature kids think other people will believe their words when written in caps... or because he needs anger management, but I can say that about more people on this thread. :shame:

[Me_Hate_Libs]

Ask Estorrath. He started both arguments. I don't know why he typed out everything in caps.

Because immature kids think other people will believe their words when written in caps... or because he needs anger management, but I can say that about more people on this thread. :shame:

 

 

 

I find smothering kittens with a pillow manages my anger quite well. :

[perfetc]

They were rhetorical.

[Sir_Kurity]

 

 

 

Yeah, so?

 

 

 

10k in 1 go is a lot of money for a beginner.

 

 

 

There are already better anti-bot software to catch bots, anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Forgive me if i have no idea what your on about.

 

 

 

Basically, i see no disadvantage for the trade limit to be based off total XP.

 

 

 

Prehaps less for skills like cooking, etc, but it seems better than QP.

 

 

 

I've said it once, and I'll say it again - SKILLS ARE NOT anti-bot. Quests are. Enough said.

 

 

 

BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

 

 

 

IF YOU BOT, THEN YOUR NOT GOING TO RWT WHEN YOU CAN JUST BOT YOUR MONEY.

 

 

 

NO PEOPLE USING BOTS MIGHT STILL WANT TO ABUSE THEIR "POWER" BY TRADING LARGE AMOUNTS OF $$$ TO THEIR FRIENDS, GIVING THEM AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. SO THERE.

 

 

 

Two questions.

 

 

 

1) what has this little bot argument have to do with the title of this thread?

 

 

 

2) WHY IS EVERYTHING IN CAPS?

 

 

 

Ask Estorrath. He started both arguments. I don't know why he typed out everything in caps.

 

 

 

I typed everything in caps because you basically repeated the same thing you said, last time, and forgot completely about my argument, so caps might have hammered the point through. Turns out it did.

 

 

 

Anyway, the advantage in the game would be negligible, if someone has a high enough total level then a high tradelimit wouldn't really mean much to him, Also if someone botting is constantly trading with him every 15 minutes he could be accused of real world trading.

 

 

 

Not everyone likes quests, but almost everyone skills, even if it is to do the quests. Prehaps a combination of quests and XP, but seriously quests suck.

[quelmotz]

I typed everything in caps because you basically repeated the same thing you said, last time, and forgot completely about my argument, so caps might have hammered the point through. Turns out it did.

 

 

 

Anyway, the advantage in the game would be negligible, if someone has a high enough total level then a high tradelimit wouldn't really mean much to him, Also if someone botting is constantly trading with him every 15 minutes he could be accused of real world trading.

 

 

 

Not everyone likes quests, but almost everyone skills, even if it is to do the quests. Prehaps a combination of quests and XP, but seriously quests suck.

 

 

 

It's just your own opinion that quests suck.

 

 

 

But yes, it could be a mix of both, but DEFINITELY have some qp requirement, otherwise people will just bot.

[Ravenkana]

I typed everything in caps because you basically repeated the same thing you said, last time, and forgot completely about my argument, so caps might have hammered the point through. Turns out it did.

 

 

 

Anyway, the advantage in the game would be negligible, if someone has a high enough total level then a high tradelimit wouldn't really mean much to him, Also if someone botting is constantly trading with him every 15 minutes he could be accused of real world trading.

 

 

 

Not everyone likes quests, but almost everyone skills, even if it is to do the quests. Prehaps a combination of quests and XP, but seriously quests suck.

 

 

 

It's just your own opinion that quests suck.

 

 

 

But yes, it could be a mix of both, but DEFINITELY have some qp requirement, otherwise people will just bot.

He never said quests suck. He just said that their are player's who don't like quests- not an opinion. I don't know why you're so adamant about having QP as a requirement... unless, maybe, it's because that's what Jagex has it as?

[langer]

He never said quests suck

 

 

 

but seriously quests suck.

 

 

 

Wasn't really hard to contradict your statement.

 

 

 

I really think QP requirement for bigger trade opportunities is a good move by Jagex. It makes players do quests which take time and skilling time prior to do doing them, a nice reward for those who invest some time in the game. It gives new player a goal to reach of they want more from their friends. It also makes it fairer for those of us who don't have same player interaction between 2 accounts.

 

 

 

It means that what you have is basically what you earned. What's wrong with that?

[perfetc]

I typed everything in caps because you basically repeated the same thing you said, last time, and forgot completely about my argument, so caps might have hammered the point through. Turns out it did.

 

 

 

Anyway, the advantage in the game would be negligible, if someone has a high enough total level then a high tradelimit wouldn't really mean much to him, Also if someone botting is constantly trading with him every 15 minutes he could be accused of real world trading.

 

 

 

Not everyone likes quests, but almost everyone skills, even if it is to do the quests. Prehaps a combination of quests and XP, but seriously quests suck.

 

 

 

It's just your own opinion that quests suck.

 

 

 

But yes, it could be a mix of both, but DEFINITELY have some qp requirement, otherwise people will just bot.

He never said quests suck. He just said that their are player's who don't like quests- not an opinion. I don't know why you're so adamant about having QP as a requirement... unless, maybe, it's because that's what Jagex has it as?

 

 

 

Read the last 11 words.

 

 

 

:wall:

[Sir_Kurity]

He never said quests suck

 

 

 

but seriously quests suck.

 

 

 

Wasn't really hard to contradict your statement.

 

 

 

I really think QP requirement for bigger trade opportunities is a good move by Jagex. It makes players do quests which take time and skilling time prior to do doing them, a nice reward for those who invest some time in the game. It gives new player a goal to reach of they want more from their friends. It also makes it fairer for those of us who don't have same player interaction between 2 accounts.

 

 

 

It means that what you have is basically what you earned. What's wrong with that?

 

 

 

Sorry for not clarifying.

 

 

 

I meant QP as a trade limit sucks. Some people don't like quests, a great deal of people (skillers, pures the like) simply can't do quests. But EVERYONE gets skills up in runescape, everyone, so XP/level should in some way matter.

 

 

 

How can you say getting a skill up is not earning it? Sure you can bot the skill, but you wouldn't bother to RWT if you were already botting. And if you did get your skills up normally you deserve a half way decent trade limit.

[perfetc]

He never said quests suck

 

 

 

but seriously quests suck.

 

 

 

Wasn't really hard to contradict your statement.

 

 

 

I really think QP requirement for bigger trade opportunities is a good move by Jagex. It makes players do quests which take time and skilling time prior to do doing them, a nice reward for those who invest some time in the game. It gives new player a goal to reach of they want more from their friends. It also makes it fairer for those of us who don't have same player interaction between 2 accounts.

 

 

 

It means that what you have is basically what you earned. What's wrong with that?

 

 

 

Sorry for not clarifying.

 

 

 

I meant QP as a trade limit sucks. Some people don't like quests, a great deal of people (skillers, pures the like) simply can't do quests. But EVERYONE gets skills up in runescape, everyone, so XP/level should in some way matter.

 

 

 

How can you say getting a skill up is not earning it? Sure you can bot the skill, but you wouldn't bother to RWT if you were already botting. And if you did get your skills up normally you deserve a half way decent trade limit.

 

 

 

Every body can do quests, I personally dont like them but I do them for the rewards and I just use the quests guides on here to rush through them, I don't know any history or any part of any story line so if every body did that then the trade limits being based on QP's would be fine.

 

 

 

Most quests don't even take that long to do.

[Harakiri]

I personally enjoy quests because of how much they tell the backstory of the game. WoW has nothing on Runescapes quests, and Runescape is just a wholly more interesting place then WoW. At least, I enjoy RS quests to the collecting things and killing things for people in WoW