Dreagation Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Link to the declaration:http://forum.tip.it/topic/246090-true-ownage-declare-source-of-wildy/Winning clan (both name + initials): Source of Wildy; SoWWinning clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=sourceLosing clan (both name + initials): True 0wnage; T0Losing clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=true_0wnageStarting/ending ops of both clans (screenshot is valid proof): It's been a while ago, but here is finally the topic for SoW vs T0.Both clans pulled a decent 24 So this looked promising. Especially because on of our trial warlords (yes another one, we're cursed it seems) was to lead the war.He sure had a dreamstart. Several of the piles went k0, and some tanked shortly. After we had build a decent lead, our organisation began to weaken, as people didn't follow the pile anymore.Tha could, however, not prevent us from winning with 16-0 Also T0 I offer you my sincere apology for the mistake my warlord made when posting the rules on our forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warria06 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Pity you had to mass snipe and have 5+ rangers, and flame during the whole war... Good Fight SoW.We will war again soon with some tweaks on some of the rules. Leader of True 0wnageForums || Memberlist || Recruitment Topic[Proud Clan Europe Senior Member] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreagation Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 Pity you had to mass snipe and have 5+ rangers, and flame during the whole war... Good Fight SoW.We will war again soon with some tweaks on some of the rules. Any flames should be reported to me. Not only would i like to have some evidence, but also want to have them know we do not want flames.Also, the mass sniping as you call it, was a loss of organisation and was not ordered by anyone. Also, it only happened after we took a firm lead, and thus we "had" not at all to masssnipe. Also, I have apologised for the range cap already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Ownage Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hi, we'd like to raise some issues about the war we had and dispute this 'win' SoW is claiming. Firstly, the Range Cap of 5 people. We have clear evidence showing you had more than 5 Rangers. This made your piles much more powerful which caused you to get faster kills, and therefore win you the war. If a mod would like to see these, I suggest they PM me, as there is quite a lot of it. Secondly we agreed on Center Boundaries, and I'm not sure what your members think they are, but means to not go past the trees. Once again, if mods would like to see evidence of this then they can PM me. So yeah. We'd either agree on a rematch, or accept that SoW have broken the rules to their advantage so therefore lose points, and oh yeah nice flaming when we came to BH too. Will upload screenshots later. We're not counting this as an Official Loss. - Jack New account: Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravehero12 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 nice job t0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_TeamDan Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hope theres a rm. The lesson here is ranger caps sucks :P. Avoid ranger caps when getting waras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreagation Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hi, we'd like to raise some issues about the war we had and dispute this 'win' SoW is claiming. Firstly, the Range Cap of 5 people. We have clear evidence showing you had more than 5 Rangers. This made your piles much more powerful which caused you to get faster kills, and therefore win you the war. If a mod would like to see these, I suggest they PM me, as there is quite a lot of it. Secondly we agreed on Center Boundaries, and I'm not sure what your members think they are, but means to not go past the trees. Once again, if mods would like to see evidence of this then they can PM me. So yeah. We'd either agree on a rematch, or accept that SoW have broken the rules to their advantage so therefore lose points, and oh yeah nice flaming when we came to BH too. Will upload screenshots later. We're not counting this as an Official Loss. Do allow me to relativate this. About the cap i have already explained, but those 2members extra made the pile only a little bit more powerfull, and our first 4k0's were mostly melee k0's. Which gave us a huge advantage before ranging even began to play a role. About the out of bounds, there was 1member, and one only, who went out of bounds massively, because he had to tank with his mousepad. He went out of bounds due to this, but also could not tank well at all because of this. Also, about the flames @bh, I wasn't there anymore, but i was there when you came spamming. That spamming could easily be seen as baiting...But as I said, do send any pictures with flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Good win SoW t0 just got t0ed :thumbsup: Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?TKO Blitz Member | Ex-Tempted Killers Council Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Ownage Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Do allow me to relativate this. About the cap i have already explained, but those 2members extra made the pile only a little bit more powerfull, and our first 4k0's were mostly melee k0's. Which gave us a huge advantage before ranging even began to play a role. About the out of bounds, there was 1member, and one only, who went out of bounds massively, because he had to tank with his mousepad. He went out of bounds due to this, but also could not tank well at all because of this. Also, about the flames @bh, I wasn't there anymore, but i was there when you came spamming. That spamming could easily be seen as baiting...But as I said, do send any pictures with flames. No, I could see your extra rangers wrecking our binders, and even when they weren't k0ing, they were still having huge effect making yours targets die faster than our targets. That swung the war in your favour without a question. Seeing as you've admitted to these already, I question whether I need to PM evidence to a mod, but if it still needs to be done then no worries. So yeah we'd be happy to have a rematch, or face the fact that you lose points for breaking 2 rules, which is 200 points if I'm correct? Also Sutty, damn...I had to phone the fire brigade for that flame-bait. - Jack New account: Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machamp195 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 dominated,gj sow :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karanbest3 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 GJ SOW! you deeserve the Win! T0 just got t0ed :) tbh we(tpr) sucked, failed pull and failed performannce and I almost dc every 3 secs thats why I had to snipe then when I tanked I went out of bounds sorry. Sorry about the masssniping too we were so crap that in the end no one was calling and everyone was making their own thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Ownage Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 dominated,gj sow :thumbup: GJ SOW! you deeserve the Win! T0 just got t0ed :) Shame really, I wasn't gunna repost that T0 V Dv topic, but now looks like I'm going to have to. =D> - Jack New account: Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machamp195 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 don't cry lol=/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karanbest3 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 dominated,gj sow :thumbup: GJ SOW! you deeserve the Win! T0 just got t0ed :) Shame really, I wasn't gunna repost that T0 V Dv topic, but now looks like I'm going to have to. =D> Why not t0 are accepting their defeat? and they were saying dv that we dont accept our defeat tbh we(tpr) sucked, failed pull and failed performannce and I almost dc every 3 secs thats why I had to snipe then when I tanked I went out of bounds sorry. Sorry about the masssniping too we were so crap that in the end no one was calling and everyone was making their own thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Ownage Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Why not t0 are accepting their defeat? and they were saying dv that we dont accept our defeat We didn't break rules unlike SoW. Maybe if you wasn't so bias then you'd realise that. But then again half your clan is Dk so most of you probably have less of an IQ than a sloth. Sorry for not realising that in the first place. It's ok to still be mad you got wrecked by us fair and square though. :thumbup: - Jack New account: Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machamp195 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Why not t0 are accepting their defeat? and they were saying dv that we dont accept our defeat We didn't break rules unlike SoW. Maybe if you wasn't so bias then you'd realise that. But then again half your clan is Dk so most of you probably have less of an IQ than a sloth. Sorry for not realising that in the first place. It's ok to still be mad you got wrecked by us fair and square though. :thumbup: lmao u make me lol irl :mrgreen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guddurulz Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Expected, Great job SOW :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfydude13 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 dominated,gj sow :thumbup: GJ SOW! you deeserve the Win! T0 just got t0ed :) We didn't break rules unlike SoW. Maybe if you wasn't so bias then you'd realise that. But then again half your clan is Dk so most of you probably have less of an IQ than a sloth. Sorry for not realising that in the first place. It's ok to still be mad you got wrecked by us fair and square though. :thumbup: Don't turn this into another T0 vs DV flaming topic please...If you want to discuss it feel free to visit us in our irc channel, #t0. Wait until one of the mods post, and we'll see where to go from there. EDIT: SoW if you're so sure you could of beaten us without breaking all the rules that you did break, accept our offer for the rematch. PROUD TO BE SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krist115 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 lol they are saying that there was a rule break and dv jst stay out of it really. gf to both sides i wish i could have seen the fight but since t0 say they got proof they arnt t0ed just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Ownage Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 lmao u make me lol irl :mrgreen: I aim to please. :thumbup: - Jack New account: Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krist115 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 l0l jack <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreagation Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 No, I could see your extra rangers wrecking our binders, and even when they weren't k0ing, they were still having huge effect making yours targets die faster than our targets. That swung the war in your favour without a question. Seeing as you've admitted to these already, I question whether I need to PM evidence to a mod, but if it still needs to be done then no worries. So yeah we'd be happy to have a rematch, or face the fact that you lose points for breaking 2 rules, which is 200 points if I'm correct? Also Sutty, damn...I had to phone the fire brigade for that flame-bait. A pity you do not, maybe because you can not?, counter my statement that those 4 were k0'ed already before we had any real rangers out, except for the snipers maybe.Secondly, you say our rangers wrecked your binders, this could be true, but if it is, its only after we had taken a huge lead and our pile didn't really listen well, thus when the difference was already made.Also, you have to agree with me that rangers rarely take binds with them, right?Maybe you have a different policy, but normally it costs too much invent spaces, considering the ineffective binds they deliver in the pile if they range and bind.In which case the 2rangers will be partially offset by having 2extra binders now, let's say, in your favourite, 1.5ranger remains.So taken all this in account, you dare to say that the 16man ending was only due to 1.5ranger? considering a quote from you:xjcx said: CrovaxKing said: yo, this is just a misunderstanding we had him as a "clan friend " rank. but w/e There's your proof. And it wasn't like 1 person would have effected the ending anyway lol. Good game though yo. ^so you're measuring in 2 ways? one way when you're accused and the other when you're accusing? I know we were wrong, but that was a mistake and would not have affected the outcome by more than a few endings. Lastly, such sarcasm isn't really productive^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmaximu5 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Why not t0 are accepting their defeat? and they were saying dv that we dont accept our defeat We didn't break rules unlike SoW. Maybe if you wasn't so bias then you'd realise that. But then again half your clan is Dk so most of you probably have less of an IQ than a sloth. Sorry for not realising that in the first place. It's ok to still be mad you got wrecked by us fair and square though. :thumbup: - Jack l00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krist115 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 rofl i didnt see that. l0l iq of a sloth *where does he come up with this lol?* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorrtty19 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 If T0 can proof SoW did rulebreaking, a RM should be good. If not: gratz on the win SoW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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