Mister_T Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I was clanfriend in TK <3: M on my Chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karanbest3 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I'm going to be straightforward about everything I believe. Whether you take it for a flame-bait, a flame, or just the facts, I could really care less as it is my opinion. 1st off about Divine Vindicators being a threat to Downfall's number one spot. If they want to take it we'll let them have it. Downfall is at the point where we have warred every clan in TWR multiple times, we are not focusing as much on declaring on TWR rather than just accepting the declarations. Our main focuses are now towards clans that we have not warred. We would much rather fight someone new than the same people over and over again. This is what is going to make Downfall better. Recently in IRC HolyHatty a Divine Vindicators Warlord came in and said "Without TWR #1 DF is nothing." I think he got this statement mixed up with his own clan. Not once have I seen a war of Divine Vindicators versus Anyone outside of TWR. While Downfall has warred, Poison, "THE", GLADZ, and others outside of TWR and in PVP as well. (Just stating the facts, not a flame) Next as for why the Beef started. I'll tell you why I got into it. The minute Ray0608 told me he was taking over Divine Vindicators I told him, we would love to help him out as long as it did not turn out to be like Tempted Killers, allowing anyone in from any clan, and recruiting out of other top clans. I asked him if he would take the time to find his own members and create a solid "CLAN" on a foundation of true LOYAL non-multiclanners. He told me he was going to and would not allow multi-clanning. Hell on their forums it states "Absolutely no multi-clanning allowed" They forgot to add in (With the exception of top 10 pvp clans and DK) This wasn't even the worst part the worst part was Ray0608 said he would never allow DK into his clan. Enough Said. Later though the "beef" is getting heated as Divine Vindicators wars Memberlists with smaller ML's and still expect a numbers advantage for them. This doesn't help you get any better. Winning with +8 doesn't prove anything regardless of who you are warring. It's a weak war in my opinion. As for the rivalry 3-0. Not trying to be [rooster] but eh it doesn't matter to me. The Downfall versus Legendz rivalry was probably the biggest rivalry out of them all. That dated all the way back to 141 Infinitone v Amateurnoob. That lasted as Jack said a very long time. When we first got onto TWR Legendz handed it to us, but we came right back and hit harder. Eventually we came on top, and now have the hold on them. And in my opinion the whole Divine Vindicators rivalry goes basically DV Versus TWR they came in here expecting a friendly environment, but never give the opposite clan the advantage in rules, and clans look down on that, as do I when reading these topics. (Not a flame, truth.) Also as for TK.... they were a great Team, and yes Sutty you beat us as a TEAM, but honestly theres not much anyone could do against DK+VR+DF+EXO+Whomever else you may have had. You put together a very nice team of members from different clans. I'll agree to that.If you were to take away those members, things would have been a lot different in my mind. In closing one of the major questions I was asked recently is am I scared of Divine Vindicators taking Downfall's Number One Spot.To answer that not at all. The record shows 3-0 if a clan comes on and beats clans by sheer number advantages and gets the points then so be it. We are here to earn our rank, not just climb up the ladder with easy wins. (DV Declare CR... I'm interested in that). Downfall is not here for the points as Divine Vindicators tried to make it out to be in the 20 vs 20 coming up between DV and DF we think that will be an excellent war, however we were told it will be a no show by DV as they think we're going to blow them away. That just shows me that they do not have confidence in a matched war. (Expect an amazing topic if it is a no show). Overall I have lost respect for Divine Vindicators as a whole throughout the clans life span, due to the decisions of the leaders, Multi clanning, flaming, "Am8 SMD" From our dear friend Karanbest (check siggy for proof) It's all just nonsense to me. This clan is trying so hard to take our number 1 spot yet they accuse us of wanting points? All we do is accept wars and challenge clans that we know will put up a fight. On the other hand DV takes the number advantages, and is publicly stating they want the #1 spot, how do you take it? You get points. So who is it that really wants the points? ~AMATEURNOOB From top to bottom for the rivalry factor. DF v LGZ---GapDF v TK---GapDF v HP--------Huge GapDF v DV (can't yet compete)if u show that whole chat i will be happy as i dint started it 1st someone from u guys were flaming us (am8's siggy) tbh we(tpr) sucked, failed pull and failed performannce and I almost dc every 3 secs thats why I had to snipe then when I tanked I went out of bounds sorry. Sorry about the masssniping too we were so crap that in the end no one was calling and everyone was making their own thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikhil71993 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Have a DV Vs DF Fullouts then no need of this Topic.But unfortunately, Df aren't accepting.Maybe they scared that they loose this time. Not flaming, just telling what I think. PROUD FOUNDER OF DIVINE VINDICATORSFORUMS || MEMBERLIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter_00777 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I'm going to be straightforward about everything I believe. Whether you take it for a flame-bait, a flame, or just the facts, I could really care less as it is my opinion. 1st off about Divine Vindicators being a threat to Downfall's number one spot. If they want to take it we'll let them have it. Downfall is at the point where we have warred every clan in TWR multiple times, we are not focusing as much on declaring on TWR rather than just accepting the declarations. Our main focuses are now towards clans that we have not warred. We would much rather fight someone new than the same people over and over again. This is what is going to make Downfall better. Recently in IRC HolyHatty a Divine Vindicators Warlord came in and said "Without TWR #1 DF is nothing." I think he got this statement mixed up with his own clan. Not once have I seen a war of Divine Vindicators versus Anyone outside of TWR. While Downfall has warred, Poison, "THE", GLADZ, and others outside of TWR and in PVP as well. (Just stating the facts, not a flame) Next as for why the Beef started. I'll tell you why I got into it. The minute Ray0608 told me he was taking over Divine Vindicators I told him, we would love to help him out as long as it did not turn out to be like Tempted Killers, allowing anyone in from any clan, and recruiting out of other top clans. I asked him if he would take the time to find his own members and create a solid "CLAN" on a foundation of true LOYAL non-multiclanners. He told me he was going to and would not allow multi-clanning. Hell on their forums it states "Absolutely no multi-clanning allowed" They forgot to add in (With the exception of top 10 pvp clans and DK) This wasn't even the worst part the worst part was Ray0608 said he would never allow DK into his clan. Enough Said. Later though the "beef" is getting heated as Divine Vindicators wars Memberlists with smaller ML's and still expect a numbers advantage for them. This doesn't help you get any better. Winning with +8 doesn't prove anything regardless of who you are warring. It's a weak war in my opinion. As for the rivalry 3-0. Not trying to be [rooster] but eh it doesn't matter to me. The Downfall versus Legendz rivalry was probably the biggest rivalry out of them all. That dated all the way back to 141 Infinitone v Amateurnoob. That lasted as Jack said a very long time. When we first got onto TWR Legendz handed it to us, but we came right back and hit harder. Eventually we came on top, and now have the hold on them. And in my opinion the whole Divine Vindicators rivalry goes basically DV Versus TWR they came in here expecting a friendly environment, but never give the opposite clan the advantage in rules, and clans look down on that, as do I when reading these topics. (Not a flame, truth.) Also as for TK.... they were a great Team, and yes Sutty you beat us as a TEAM, but honestly theres not much anyone could do against DK+VR+DF+EXO+Whomever else you may have had. You put together a very nice team of members from different clans. I'll agree to that.If you were to take away those members, things would have been a lot different in my mind. In closing one of the major questions I was asked recently is am I scared of Divine Vindicators taking Downfall's Number One Spot.To answer that not at all. The record shows 3-0 if a clan comes on and beats clans by sheer number advantages and gets the points then so be it. We are here to earn our rank, not just climb up the ladder with easy wins. (DV Declare CR... I'm interested in that). Downfall is not here for the points as Divine Vindicators tried to make it out to be in the 20 vs 20 coming up between DV and DF we think that will be an excellent war, however we were told it will be a no show by DV as they think we're going to blow them away. That just shows me that they do not have confidence in a matched war. (Expect an amazing topic if it is a no show). Overall I have lost respect for Divine Vindicators as a whole throughout the clans life span, due to the decisions of the leaders, Multi clanning, flaming, "Am8 SMD" From our dear friend Karanbest (check siggy for proof) It's all just nonsense to me. This clan is trying so hard to take our number 1 spot yet they accuse us of wanting points? All we do is accept wars and challenge clans that we know will put up a fight. On the other hand DV takes the number advantages, and is publicly stating they want the #1 spot, how do you take it? You get points. So who is it that really wants the points? ~AMATEURNOOB From top to bottom for the rivalry factor. DF v LGZ---GapDF v TK---GapDF v HP--------Huge GapDF v DV (can't yet compete) Well written, I enjoyed reading it! :) I think the reason why the rivalry between DF and LGZ was so big back then because we both were equally strong and respectfull opponents for eachother, we had so much in common, I can't remember we've been actually flaming eachother (another thing DF and LGZ have in common), that's what made it such a though, epic and most of all FAIR rivalry back then! 12,079 Profile views. Get on my level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mago Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I'd say people give interest more to DV than DF. Simply...watch the war topics..DV wars got 1k+ views. Anyway this will be a good long war.xD I agree with Mago. Dv is better than Df because they get more youtube hits. I love the ironic but i didn't say better.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGwas Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Reign of Terror is the most dominant clan in pay-to-play.Reasons why? MattyB is a beast is why. Ot: TWR rivalries aren't that heated, it's just some flame/flame bait on the forums which a mod will probably lock/clean anyway. 90% of the fights aren't even in the wilderness, and most of the clans don't pk anyway so it's a rare occasion to settle this with hunting each other. DV isn't even close to downfall, the warlord is in RSD, they have dk members, and their council is in the rising. Ray0608 said he wouldn't let multi-clanners in but yeah half the clan are multi-clanners. the only time they will actually fight is in cwa due to the fact that they both don't go out into the wilderness often. Now DS and NI was legendary, so was Adelais and Tunescape. If you want a really heated rivarly hunt each other in the wilderness, there you will know who the better clan is. Currently in: Echo Of Silence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thehitman324 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Have a DV Vs DF Fullouts then no need of this Topic.But unfortunately, Df aren't accepting.Maybe they scared that they loose this time. Not flaming, just telling what I think.lol you dumb? 3-0 and were scared? I believe you just want to take advantage of our sweep and want to outpull us, lets go PvP? oh wait your scared. 3 Years Strong<3 PM TheHitman|Will in #downfall at swiftirc if your interested in a fight against Downfall Clan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Ownage Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Have a DV Vs DF Fullouts then no need of this Topic.But unfortunately, Df aren't accepting.Maybe they scared that they loose this time. Not flaming, just telling what I think. They accepted a full out CWRI or a war in PVP, which both times you declined. Rules aren't always going to go your way. New account: Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeeeeee Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 oh and @ Gudd about changing the rules tipit mods set well its happening at that time with no negotiation (as y guy said on his post) ot: i agree with dan on the rivalries that df has had but are there any other clans not including df with rivalries at these levels?discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A0166 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 guys this topic is discussing rivalries, not trying to start fights lol. DV DOMINATION !!!!!! DV FOR LYF \,,/<(*.*)>\,,/ BETTER TO DIE WITH COURAGE, THAN TO LIVE WITH FEAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polyvoree Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 ~AMATEURNOOB From top to bottom for the rivalry factor. DF v LGZ---GapDF v TK---GapDF v HP--------Huge GapDF v DV (can't yet compete) Woaw woaw woaw, We have a rivalry with DF? Well, I guess it is true seeing as you are first :twisted: .But as pieter said, it wasn't like we hated each other. (well, maybe) But I don't see any "Rivalry" between DF and DV, if DV does have a rival it's probably us. Scratch that, Dv have a rival with EVERY clan, well, I wouldn't Really call it a rivalry, just hatred :?: ot: i agree with dan on the rivalries that df has had but are there any other clans not including df with rivalries at these levels?discuss Well I don't really know many.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaldesor Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Reign of Terror is the most dominant clan in pay-to-play.Reasons why? MattyB is a beast is why. Ot: TWR rivalries aren't that heated, it's just some flame/flame bait on the forums which a mod will probably lock/clean anyway. 90% of the fights aren't even in the wilderness, and most of the clans don't pk anyway so it's a rare occasion to settle this with hunting each other. DV isn't even close to downfall, the warlord is in RSD, they have dk members, and their council is in the rising. Ray0608 said he wouldn't let multi-clanners in but yeah half the clan are multi-clanners. the only time they will actually fight is in cwa due to the fact that they both don't go out into the wilderness often. Now DS and NI was legendary, so was Adelais and Tunescape. If you want a really heated rivarly hunt each other in the wilderness, there you will know who the better clan is. Well you cant really compare old wild rivalrys to twr rivalrys because twr rivalrys is mostly ,as you said, posting/flaming and a very small amount of fights , each of them with a huge-time gap between each other, nothing compared to hunting each other in wild and fighting really frequently,to finnaly settle with pvp fullouts ,and it also had the spy-factor (L), signature banters etc. I think the most epic rivalry will always be Generaldesor vs Everton person who won the most awards: GeneraldesorRETIRED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny9 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Oh my goodness.. I really REALLY don't see why you keep calling us scared? We're trying to negotiate the best, most fair rules? If you want to win with a +20 adv good job to you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFWILL Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I'm going to be straightforward about everything I believe. Whether you take it for a flame-bait, a flame, or just the facts, I could really care less as it is my opinion. 1st off about Divine Vindicators being a threat to Downfall's number one spot. If they want to take it we'll let them have it. Downfall is at the point where we have warred every clan in TWR multiple times, we are not focusing as much on declaring on TWR rather than just accepting the declarations. Our main focuses are now towards clans that we have not warred. We would much rather fight someone new than the same people over and over again. This is what is going to make Downfall better. Recently in IRC HolyHatty a Divine Vindicators Warlord came in and said "Without TWR #1 DF is nothing." I think he got this statement mixed up with his own clan. Not once have I seen a war of Divine Vindicators versus Anyone outside of TWR. While Downfall has warred, Poison, "THE", GLADZ, and others outside of TWR and in PVP as well. (Just stating the facts, not a flame) Next as for why the Beef started. I'll tell you why I got into it. The minute Ray0608 told me he was taking over Divine Vindicators I told him, we would love to help him out as long as it did not turn out to be like Tempted Killers, allowing anyone in from any clan, and recruiting out of other top clans. I asked him if he would take the time to find his own members and create a solid "CLAN" on a foundation of true LOYAL non-multiclanners. He told me he was going to and would not allow multi-clanning. Hell on their forums it states "Absolutely no multi-clanning allowed" They forgot to add in (With the exception of top 10 pvp clans and DK) This wasn't even the worst part the worst part was Ray0608 said he would never allow DK into his clan. Enough Said. Later though the "beef" is getting heated as Divine Vindicators wars Memberlists with smaller ML's and still expect a numbers advantage for them. This doesn't help you get any better. Winning with +8 doesn't prove anything regardless of who you are warring. It's a weak war in my opinion. As for the rivalry 3-0. Not trying to be [rooster] but eh it doesn't matter to me. The Downfall versus Legendz rivalry was probably the biggest rivalry out of them all. That dated all the way back to 141 Infinitone v Amateurnoob. That lasted as Jack said a very long time. When we first got onto TWR Legendz handed it to us, but we came right back and hit harder. Eventually we came on top, and now have the hold on them. And in my opinion the whole Divine Vindicators rivalry goes basically DV Versus TWR they came in here expecting a friendly environment, but never give the opposite clan the advantage in rules, and clans look down on that, as do I when reading these topics. (Not a flame, truth.) Also as for TK.... they were a great Team, and yes Sutty you beat us as a TEAM, but honestly theres not much anyone could do against DK+VR+DF+EXO+Whomever else you may have had. You put together a very nice team of members from different clans. I'll agree to that.If you were to take away those members, things would have been a lot different in my mind. In closing one of the major questions I was asked recently is am I scared of Divine Vindicators taking Downfall's Number One Spot.To answer that not at all. The record shows 3-0 if a clan comes on and beats clans by sheer number advantages and gets the points then so be it. We are here to earn our rank, not just climb up the ladder with easy wins. (DV Declare CR... I'm interested in that). Downfall is not here for the points as Divine Vindicators tried to make it out to be in the 20 vs 20 coming up between DV and DF we think that will be an excellent war, however we were told it will be a no show by DV as they think we're going to blow them away. That just shows me that they do not have confidence in a matched war. (Expect an amazing topic if it is a no show). Overall I have lost respect for Divine Vindicators as a whole throughout the clans life span, due to the decisions of the leaders, Multi clanning, flaming, "Am8 SMD" From our dear friend Karanbest (check siggy for proof) It's all just nonsense to me. This clan is trying so hard to take our number 1 spot yet they accuse us of wanting points? All we do is accept wars and challenge clans that we know will put up a fight. On the other hand DV takes the number advantages, and is publicly stating they want the #1 spot, how do you take it? You get points. So who is it that really wants the points? ~AMATEURNOOB From top to bottom for the rivalry factor. DF v LGZ---GapDF v TK---GapDF v HP--------Huge GapDF v DV (can't yet compete) Well put. Also as for TK.... they were a great Team, and yes Sutty you beat us as a TEAM, but honestly theres not much anyone could do against DK+VR+DF+EXO+Whomever else you may have had. You put together a very nice team of members from different clans. I'll agree to that.If you were to take away those members, things would have been a lot different in my mind. mhmm, lets say we warred and it was 60 v 60, if we took away our 15 multi-clanners that we had (yes i checked a while ago). i'd predict the ending to be 45-0, us winning. B) Just letting you know that's how different the outcome would have been, perhaps TK will re-open someday and we will see Amateur :smile: OT: Tbj vs Tpr.... massive rivalry :shock: Danda, it would hurt but we had plenty of good leaders to take place, Viking/ Nykimu <3: ummm yea ur ml was definitely 50% Dk/Other pvp clans. Have a DV Vs DF Fullouts then no need of this Topic.But unfortunately, Df aren't accepting.Maybe they scared that they loose this time. Not flaming, just telling what I think. Rofl i lol'd... 3-0 thats all you need to know, were bored of cwa, take it to pvp. I'd say people give interest more to DV than DF. Simply...watch the war topics..DV wars got 1k+ views. Anyway this will be a good long war.xD I agree with Mago. Dv is better than Df because they get more youtube hits. I love the ironic but i didn't say better.:D "I love the ironic"..... irony?.... more like sarcasm ;). guys this topic is discussing rivalries, not trying to start fights lol. 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Beckingham Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Reign of Terror is the most dominant clan in pay-to-play.Reasons why? MattyB is a beast is why.Ot: TWR rivalries aren't that heated, it's just some flame/flame bait on the forums which a mod will probably lock/clean anyway. 90% of the fights aren't even in the wilderness, and most of the clans don't pk anyway so it's a rare occasion to settle this with hunting each other. DV isn't even close to downfall, the warlord is in RSD, they have dk members, and their council is in the rising. Ray0608 said he wouldn't let multi-clanners in but yeah half the clan are multi-clanners. the only time they will actually fight is in cwa due to the fact that they both don't go out into the wilderness often. Now DS and NI was legendary, so was Adelais and Tunescape. If you want a really heated rivarly hunt each other in the wilderness, there you will know who the better clan is. Not really about Df vs Dv, but: I think it's pretty naive and pretentious of you to assume that just because a rivalry is based in cwa it is inferior to one based in pvp. Whether you lose pixels or not really doesn't matter; what matters is what happens outside of the fights. Any fight can be intense, that doesn't make it a rivalry. Rivalries are born on the forums and in ircs, and later make their way to the battelfield (wherever that may be). Location doesn't matter, a fight is a fight wherever you are. True Ownage Co-Leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IB0nerLoL Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Tk VS Df Was fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amateurnoob Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Have a DV Vs DF Fullouts then no need of this Topic.But unfortunately, Df aren't accepting.Maybe they scared that they loose this time. Not flaming, just telling what I think. OMG BROOOOOOOOO I HAVE A GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!We will accept your full out with one added new rule... ABSOLUTELY NO MULTI-CLANNERS ALLOWED IN THE WAR.I bet you will pull 30-40... Not flaming just saying the truth. Discuss. Do us all a favor, construct a proper sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallic10 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 2 week prep 1 hour cwa pkri that will solve your problems, now quit being nancys sup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizi Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 DF Rivalries probably arent the best rivalries, ever because twr was around before most of clans in twr were ever made. DF Rivaliries: 1. Downfall vs Husaria Polska-Are Shortest rivaliry but most intence one, we enjoyed fighitng as they didnt rely on flame bait and twisting stuff in there favor to get a win. 2. Downfall vs. Legendz-It is probably are longest rivaliry(though it dosent exist anymore). The was great fights from both clans with both clans winning some. Plus there was 10 page war summeries & declaration, dosent even compete with dv at a much higher level. 3. Downfall vs Tempted Killers-Wasnt really a rivalry, we competed with them till they went a little nh and allowed multiclanning. @ sutty honastly 45-0? in are wars you ended up winnign like 30-0 wiht ur multiclanners. I would say tk might of won around 15-0 to 10-0. You probably would of beat us, im not gunna lie. 4. Downfall vs Divine Vindicators-Not a rivalry at all just immature flaming from both clans. If you call it a rivalry your crazy its just flame baiting. Some comments to dv:Who cares about views on youtube? Your members might watch the movie 5 times each and already 500+ views. Check RSC are topics have much better views. And on TIF ur topics have more views cause tpr is trolling you guys, and you guys get mad. We;ve fought clans like TKO, Gladz, and pvp wars vs poison and the. BEating a clan when you have 5 more ppl is nothing, as we as downfall have learned that. No cares about winning with 5+ extra people.@nikhil- you think we scared bro? you trying to act tough cause are ml is 40% smaller then yours? We've asked for pvp wars and cwri;s, you are too scared to accept? You want full out so you can fight us 60-35? i guess that what you guys want? only you can win i guess, honastly stfu about us being scared, im not try to flame-bait but thats the most reterted thing ever, we've beaten you 3 times with 30+ ppl left over each time. Downfall vs Divine Vindicators is not a rivalry. http://rs-downfall.com Join the Community, if you're already in a clan register and become a clan friend!Downfall Since September 6, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Also as for TK.... they were a great Team, and yes Sutty you beat us as a TEAM, but honestly theres not much anyone could do against DK+VR+DF+EXO+Whomever else you may have had. You put together a very nice team of members from different clans. I'll agree to that.If you were to take away those members, things would have been a lot different in my mind. mhmm, lets say we warred and it was 60 v 60, if we took away our 15 multi-clanners that we had (yes i checked a while ago). i'd predict the ending to be 45-0, us winning. B) Just letting you know that's how different the outcome would have been, perhaps TK will re-open someday and we will see Amateur :smile: OT: Tbj vs Tpr.... massive rivalry :shock: Danda, it would hurt but we had plenty of good leaders to take place, Viking/ Nykimu <3: ummm yea ur ml was definitely 50% Dk/Other pvp clans. oh rlly? is that why 50% of Df is always seen pking with ni/ph.. LMAO Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?TKO Blitz Member | Ex-Tempted Killers Council Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_TeamDan Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Downfall is stupid for thinking DV would accept pkri - They declined a 40man ml that pulls 9 people. And I remember DF and especially LGZ being the type of clans that loved to out pull other clans, TK on the other side they'd war anyone any rules any day. That's why they were number 1. In matched opts if you got dropepd you were basically pushed to become more useful. That'd be tanking wise/binding wise/ combat wise/ leadership skills etc. That's very key for a clan to experience matched opts and such,but honnestly DF and LGZ didn't really do matched opts when they had good pulls, LGZ always trying to get a cap fight of some high number and DF would do the same; DV is just like you guys when you were in TWR early days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_TeamDan Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Also as for TK.... they were a great Team, and yes Sutty you beat us as a TEAM, but honestly theres not much anyone could do against DK+VR+DF+EXO+Whomever else you may have had. You put together a very nice team of members from different clans. I'll agree to that.If you were to take away those members, things would have been a lot different in my mind. mhmm, lets say we warred and it was 60 v 60, if we took away our 15 multi-clanners that we had (yes i checked a while ago). i'd predict the ending to be 45-0, us winning. B) Just letting you know that's how different the outcome would have been, perhaps TK will re-open someday and we will see Amateur :smile: OT: Tbj vs Tpr.... massive rivalry :shock: Danda, it would hurt but we had plenty of good leaders to take place, Viking/ Nykimu <3: ummm yea ur ml was definitely 50% Dk/Other pvp clans. oh rlly? is that why 50% of Df is always seen pking with ni/ph.. LMAO -pulls a classic machamp double post- NI/PH hated Downfall and crashed their wars, idk if it's changed but I don't think 50% of DF would consider pking with PH, maybe NI but NI did target Downfall in every pvp war they had i think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thehitman324 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Also as for TK.... they were a great Team, and yes Sutty you beat us as a TEAM, but honestly theres not much anyone could do against DK+VR+DF+EXO+Whomever else you may have had. You put together a very nice team of members from different clans. I'll agree to that.If you were to take away those members, things would have been a lot different in my mind. mhmm, lets say we warred and it was 60 v 60, if we took away our 15 multi-clanners that we had (yes i checked a while ago). i'd predict the ending to be 45-0, us winning. B) Just letting you know that's how different the outcome would have been, perhaps TK will re-open someday and we will see Amateur :smile: OT: Tbj vs Tpr.... massive rivalry :shock: Danda, it would hurt but we had plenty of good leaders to take place, Viking/ Nykimu <3: ummm yea ur ml was definitely 50% Dk/Other pvp clans. oh rlly? is that why 50% of Df is always seen pking with ni/ph.. LMAONot really, some of us use to pk with DK all the time, we were kool with derek and all until he came and flood our ts in a fun war which dc most our members and started flaming us for basically no reason, was hungry for a win I suppose? After that we mass up DF and team up with ni/ph to clear dk even faster then they usually do since we were kinda pissed DK would do such a sad thing in a fun war. I heard Derek wants to ddos me btw, e-thugs reppin. We don't pk with ni/ph anymore though, we usually mass up D0 and pk often now which is more fun then going after DK at singles. L2studyclans before trolling. EDIT: and yes dandaman ni/ph crashed every pvp war we have had. 3 Years Strong<3 PM TheHitman|Will in #downfall at swiftirc if your interested in a fight against Downfall Clan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Also as for TK.... they were a great Team, and yes Sutty you beat us as a TEAM, but honestly theres not much anyone could do against DK+VR+DF+EXO+Whomever else you may have had. You put together a very nice team of members from different clans. I'll agree to that.If you were to take away those members, things would have been a lot different in my mind. mhmm, lets say we warred and it was 60 v 60, if we took away our 15 multi-clanners that we had (yes i checked a while ago). i'd predict the ending to be 45-0, us winning. B) Just letting you know that's how different the outcome would have been, perhaps TK will re-open someday and we will see Amateur :smile: OT: Tbj vs Tpr.... massive rivalry :shock: Danda, it would hurt but we had plenty of good leaders to take place, Viking/ Nykimu <3: ummm yea ur ml was definitely 50% Dk/Other pvp clans. oh rlly? is that why 50% of Df is always seen pking with ni/ph.. LMAONot really, some of us use to pk with DK all the time, we were kool with derek and all until he came and flood our ts in a fun war which dc most our members and started flaming us for basically no reason, was hungry for a win I suppose? After that we mass up DF and team up with ni/ph to clear dk even faster then they usually do since we were kinda pissed DK would do such a sad thing in a fun war. I heard Derek wants to ddos me btw, e-thugs reppin. We don't pk with ni/ph anymore though, we usually mass up D0 and pk often now which is more fun then going after DK at singles. L2studyclans before trolling. No need to study when ur members seen with em everyday :) You may not know, i think they low on cash so they gotta pk with ni/ph in an attempt to make some gpzzz :( Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?TKO Blitz Member | Ex-Tempted Killers Council Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thehitman324 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Also as for TK.... they were a great Team, and yes Sutty you beat us as a TEAM, but honestly theres not much anyone could do against DK+VR+DF+EXO+Whomever else you may have had. You put together a very nice team of members from different clans. I'll agree to that.If you were to take away those members, things would have been a lot different in my mind. mhmm, lets say we warred and it was 60 v 60, if we took away our 15 multi-clanners that we had (yes i checked a while ago). i'd predict the ending to be 45-0, us winning. B) Just letting you know that's how different the outcome would have been, perhaps TK will re-open someday and we will see Amateur :smile: OT: Tbj vs Tpr.... massive rivalry :shock: Danda, it would hurt but we had plenty of good leaders to take place, Viking/ Nykimu <3: ummm yea ur ml was definitely 50% Dk/Other pvp clans. oh rlly? is that why 50% of Df is always seen pking with ni/ph.. LMAONot really, some of us use to pk with DK all the time, we were kool with derek and all until he came and flood our ts in a fun war which dc most our members and started flaming us for basically no reason, was hungry for a win I suppose? After that we mass up DF and team up with ni/ph to clear dk even faster then they usually do since we were kinda pissed DK would do such a sad thing in a fun war. I heard Derek wants to ddos me btw, e-thugs reppin. We don't pk with ni/ph anymore though, we usually mass up D0 and pk often now which is more fun then going after DK at singles. L2studyclans before trolling. No need to study when ur members seen with em everyday :) You may not know, i think they low on cash so they gotta pk with ni/ph and try making some gpzzz :( nopicnoproof I'm sure ni or anybody who pks with them is not poor, it's just that welfare suits them better for their motto and makes it more fun for them. It's not all about rune. When DF+T0 pks we wear w/e we want as long as we have a weapon and something decent. However, in a PvP war it's all different, that's when the rune is mandatory and it'd be stupid to wear addy especially in a pkri. 3 Years Strong<3 PM TheHitman|Will in #downfall at swiftirc if your interested in a fight against Downfall Clan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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