Whip vs. Godsword

[Robert_R]

Can anyone tell me, from experience with both soloing, which one is better or are they just about equal? If one is better then the other, how much better is it?

[Gravy]

Godsword is far, far better.

[Draconic]

Godsword is way better. The bonuses are needed to break through Graar's defense. Whip is fast and semi-powerful; it's best to be used for training, and not much else.

[lycansquall]

for soloing god swords are better they have the power to hit though the bosses defenses

 

but for training the whip is a much better weapon

 

anyone that trains with a gs is an idiot

[SanNo1]

A while ago someone (I believe it was compfreak) tested it and the outcome was that a whip was better while soloing graardor. Make sure to use a defender and the whip will be slightly better. I don't know how true this is btw, and I always preferred a GS over a whip, but I haven't soloed him in a while and never really tested it myself.

[mmmchips1]

A while ago someone (I believe it was compfreak) tested it and the outcome was that a whip was better while soloing graardor. Make sure to use a defender and the whip will be slightly better. I don't know how true this is btw, and I always preferred a GS over a whip, but I haven't soloed him in a while and never really tested it myself.

 

I've used both a whip and a saradomin godsword, and I found that the whip was actually better. I would advise taking an obsidian shield as opposed to a rune defender though, you get ravaged without a shield.

[Tritous]

obby shield? lol!

 

In normal circumstances the whip is 19% faster damage than a godsword, caused by the 50% faster attacks of the whip vs the 11.25 higher max on the godsword.

 

however, once the target's def goes up the dropoff rate of sucessful hits is faster for a whip than a godsword, even with a defender. Not to mention the specials (particularly bandos godsword) are useful. Because of this a godsword is better on high def targets. I'd like to suggest the following though:

 

Curses + whip + defender > Curses + godsword.

 

leech the defence down far enough and the whip will start hitting easily again.

[MstrMonopoly]

Whip is actually better. Its speed more than makes up for slight loss of accuracy. AGS > Whip > SGS > BGS > ZGS is the order I think. ZGS is of course a necessity for meleeing Sara.

[Robert_R]

A while ago someone (I believe it was compfreak) tested it and the outcome was that a whip was better while soloing graardor. Make sure to use a defender and the whip will be slightly better. I don't know how true this is btw, and I always preferred a GS over a whip, but I haven't soloed him in a while and never really tested it myself.

 

I've used both a whip and a saradomin godsword, and I found that the whip was actually better. I would advise taking an obsidian shield as opposed to a rune defender though, you get ravaged without a shield.

 

 

obby shield? lol!

 

In normal circumstances the whip is 19% faster damage than a godsword, caused by the 50% faster attacks of the whip vs the 11.25 higher max on the godsword.

 

however, once the target's def goes up the dropoff rate of sucessful hits is faster for a whip than a godsword, even with a defender. Not to mention the specials (particularly bandos godsword) are useful. Because of this a godsword is better on high def targets. I'd like to suggest the following though:

 

Curses + whip + defender > Curses + godsword.

 

leech the defence down far enough and the whip will start hitting easily again.

Thanks I'm going to try whip+defender. Should I pray leech defence or just pray turmoil?

[abbydog95]

A while ago someone (I believe it was compfreak) tested it and the outcome was that a whip was better while soloing graardor. Make sure to use a defender and the whip will be slightly better. I don't know how true this is btw, and I always preferred a GS over a whip, but I haven't soloed him in a while and never really tested it myself.

 

I've used both a whip and a saradomin godsword, and I found that the whip was actually better. I would advise taking an obsidian shield as opposed to a rune defender though, you get ravaged without a shield.

 

 

obby shield? lol!

 

In normal circumstances the whip is 19% faster damage than a godsword, caused by the 50% faster attacks of the whip vs the 11.25 higher max on the godsword.

 

however, once the target's def goes up the dropoff rate of sucessful hits is faster for a whip than a godsword, even with a defender. Not to mention the specials (particularly bandos godsword) are useful. Because of this a godsword is better on high def targets. I'd like to suggest the following though:

 

Curses + whip + defender > Curses + godsword.

 

leech the defence down far enough and the whip will start hitting easily again.

Thanks I'm going to try whip+defender. Should I pray leech defence or just pray turmoil?

 

Turmoil is far better

[Robert_R]

A while ago someone (I believe it was compfreak) tested it and the outcome was that a whip was better while soloing graardor. Make sure to use a defender and the whip will be slightly better. I don't know how true this is btw, and I always preferred a GS over a whip, but I haven't soloed him in a while and never really tested it myself.

 

I've used both a whip and a saradomin godsword, and I found that the whip was actually better. I would advise taking an obsidian shield as opposed to a rune defender though, you get ravaged without a shield.

 

 

obby shield? lol!

 

In normal circumstances the whip is 19% faster damage than a godsword, caused by the 50% faster attacks of the whip vs the 11.25 higher max on the godsword.

 

however, once the target's def goes up the dropoff rate of sucessful hits is faster for a whip than a godsword, even with a defender. Not to mention the specials (particularly bandos godsword) are useful. Because of this a godsword is better on high def targets. I'd like to suggest the following though:

 

Curses + whip + defender > Curses + godsword.

 

leech the defence down far enough and the whip will start hitting easily again.

Thanks I'm going to try whip+defender. Should I pray leech defence or just pray turmoil?

 

Turmoil is far better

That's what I thought thank just making sure.

[Cactuaar]

From my personal experience, with extreme potions and piety, I found a whip along with a dragonfire shield better than a godsword. I usually got 3 kills per trip, sometimes dropping to two, once even 4. But with a godsword (I've tried SGS, BGS, and AGS) I found that 2 kills was more common. I didn't do extentensive testing, as I did only around 5 trips for the whip and dragonfire shield and at least 10 trips with a godsword. But from personal experience, the extra defence from the dragonfire shield allows me to use karils top for good magic and ranged defence, which allows me to eat less and attack more.

 

Another alternative that I used 3 times was verac's. I got 2 kills per trip each time, and it wasn't that bad.

 

But overall, the best combo for me was a whip + DFS. In a free for all duo with my friend I also got more kills every time even though he used AGS. He has slightly lower stats and no extremes, but I had to tank, so my advantage was cancelled out a bit.

[Robert_R]

From my personal experience, with extreme potions and piety, I found a whip along with a dragonfire shield better than a godsword. I usually got 3 kills per trip, sometimes dropping to two, once even 4. But with a godsword (I've tried SGS, BGS, and AGS) I found that 2 kills was more common. I didn't do extentensive testing, as I did only around 5 trips for the whip and dragonfire shield and at least 10 trips with a godsword. But from personal experience, the extra defence from the dragonfire shield allows me to use karils top for good magic and ranged defence, which allows me to eat less and attack more.

 

Another alternative that I used 3 times was verac's. I got 2 kills per trip each time, and it wasn't that bad.

 

But overall, the best combo for me was a whip + DFS. In a free for all duo with my friend I also got more kills every time even though he used AGS. He has slightly lower stats and no extremes, but I had to tank, so my advantage was cancelled out a bit.

I can't afford a dfs atm (kinda burned most of my money on 95 prayer lol) so would you suggest obsidian shield or just stick with rune defender?

[Tritous]

obby shield is junk, so I don't know why you seem to want it. the second choice if you cant get dfs (not that money is hard to get) is blessed spirit shield, or crystal shield. remember obby is weaker than rune, and that str bonus is insignificant.

 

I'd still recommend a defender though, the accuracy makes the whip not far behind the godsword so it can really achieve it's potential. Verac skirt and helm with one of the barrow plates, bandos boots, and the usual trimmings should give you plenty of defence and prayer bonus. You'll only have to worry about mage, but a high mage level yourself helps a lot with that.

 

Also worth commending: agility has a minor affect on ranged defence.

[n00bfiterpk6]

ok I think that people are underestimating the whip here,

 

i would say that a whip + dfs or better shield would be better then a gs for soloing bandos. Its pretty easy to hit graa with a whip, and the extra defence bonus's help ALOT. if you dont have atleast a dfs though a gs will be better.

[glasscube]

obby shield is junk, so I don't know why you seem to want it. the second choice if you cant get dfs (not that money is hard to get) is blessed spirit shield, or crystal shield. remember obby is weaker than rune, and that str bonus is insignificant.

 

I'd still recommend a defender though, the accuracy makes the whip not far behind the godsword so it can really achieve it's potential. Verac skirt and helm with one of the barrow plates, bandos boots, and the usual trimmings should give you plenty of defence and prayer bonus. You'll only have to worry about mage, but a high mage level yourself helps a lot with that.

 

Also worth commending: agility has a minor affect on ranged defence.

 

Actually no, obby shield is not weaker then rune in the defense that matters - range. Why would you care for melee defense when you are praying melee?

[Robert_R]

ok I think that people are underestimating the whip here,

 

i would say that a whip + dfs or better shield would be better then a gs for soloing bandos. Its pretty easy to hit graa with a whip, and the extra defence bonus's help ALOT. if you dont have atleast a dfs though a gs will be better.

Are you saying the dfs for the defence bonus or the strength bonus?

 

obby shield is junk, so I don't know why you seem to want it. the second choice if you cant get dfs (not that money is hard to get) is blessed spirit shield, or crystal shield. remember obby is weaker than rune, and that str bonus is insignificant.

 

I'd still recommend a defender though, the accuracy makes the whip not far behind the godsword so it can really achieve it's potential. Verac skirt and helm with one of the barrow plates, bandos boots, and the usual trimmings should give you plenty of defence and prayer bonus. You'll only have to worry about mage, but a high mage level yourself helps a lot with that.

 

Also worth commending: agility has a minor affect on ranged defence.

 

Actually no, obby shield is not weaker then rune in the defense that matters - range. Why would you care for melee defense when you are praying melee?

I was wondering the same thing.

compare- obby vs bss

Don't see how bss is better then obby for soloing bandos.

Money might not be hard to get but the ridiculous cost of a dfs takes time to get.

[Tritous]

considering that there are now 3 methods for getting over 1m an hour and the better part of a dozen that pull in over 500k an hour gp as guaranteed cash, i dont see how that is a serious obsticle?

 

The choice of shield depends on what other armour you have as much as anything. I've seen people wearing some outright stupid attempts at gear recently, claiming it to be good. Comes to something when you see people trying to crash bandos in a torso.

[stonewall337]

Whip, by far. This is even more true if you have x pots or turmoil.

 

Although I could believe it, I would like proof also that agility has anything to do with your range defense. It does make sense, but it sounds more like a RS urban legend.

[Robert_R]

considering that there are now 3 methods for getting over 1m an hour and the better part of a dozen that pull in over 500k an hour gp as guaranteed cash, i dont see how that is a serious obsticle?

 

The choice of shield depends on what other armour you have as much as anything. I've seen people wearing some outright stupid attempts at gear recently, claiming it to be good. Comes to something when you see people trying to crash bandos in a torso.

Dfs = 36m = 36 hours of playing if I was managing 1m per hour = not worth it for an overpriced shield just to solo bandos.

 

I tried using a whip+defender and I can't tell if it's just because I fail at soloing because it's my first time or if it's the gear but I'm only managing 2-3 kills a trip most of the time 2.

[abbydog95]

considering that there are now 3 methods for getting over 1m an hour and the better part of a dozen that pull in over 500k an hour gp as guaranteed cash, i dont see how that is a serious obsticle?

 

The choice of shield depends on what other armour you have as much as anything. I've seen people wearing some outright stupid attempts at gear recently, claiming it to be good. Comes to something when you see people trying to crash bandos in a torso.

Dfs = 36m = 36 hours of playing if I was managing 1m per hour = not worth it for an overpriced shield just to solo bandos.

 

I tried using a whip+defender and I can't tell if it's just because I fail at soloing because it's my first time or if it's the gear but I'm only managing 2-3 kills a trip most of the time 2.

 

2 - 3 is very good...

[Robert_R]

considering that there are now 3 methods for getting over 1m an hour and the better part of a dozen that pull in over 500k an hour gp as guaranteed cash, i dont see how that is a serious obsticle?

 

The choice of shield depends on what other armour you have as much as anything. I've seen people wearing some outright stupid attempts at gear recently, claiming it to be good. Comes to something when you see people trying to crash bandos in a torso.

Dfs = 36m = 36 hours of playing if I was managing 1m per hour = not worth it for an overpriced shield just to solo bandos.

 

I tried using a whip+defender and I can't tell if it's just because I fail at soloing because it's my first time or if it's the gear but I'm only managing 2-3 kills a trip most of the time 2.

 

2 - 3 is very good...

Oh I guess my friend is just being mean then lol he keeps telling me 2 is terrible <_<

[glasscube]

Yeah, I don't think you will get more then 3 max 4 when your really lucky unless you have overloads and a pack yak

[stonewall337]

With Tort, turmoil and AGS, as well as pwny for after tort was empty, I only barely got 4 kills last solo. 2-3 is good.

[Tritous]

I'm afraid i cant remember the exact source, but im sure it was j mod confirmed that agility has a (minor) affect on ranged def, and that is the reason for karil's set effect.

 

dfs is generally not the most useful shield for melee except when tanking it's true, but i'd advise you consider other uses too: Minor improvement when killing dragons, major boost when ranging in arma: you get a decent def for just tanking. in clan wars it's key for all rangers or mages. then again, if you do none of the above, yeah, not worth it