Rearranging my Block list

[The_Fray]

I just made my first batch of Super Antifires and I was wondering whether it is worth unblocking steels? I have already removed black dragons and iron dragons from my list. I also plan on getting my herblore to 85 and make a few extremes as well. So now I have 2 if not 3 possible spots open and I was wondering which monsters I should block now. I also have a SGS and the best equipment. The reason I unblocked the 2 dragons is because I want to get a visage as a drop someday.

 

My List now looks like

iron dragons (removed/empty spot)

black dragons (removed/empty spot)

steel dragons

skeletal wyerns

 

Tasks I am considering

Bloodvelds (They can be too crowded in slayer tower and canonning them is a huge loss)

Black Demons (These tasks can be really long, though the experience and charms makes them bearable)

Kalphites (They are good xp while cannoning, they are just a little annoying to get to and find a good world for)

 

Thanks

[Sy_Accursed]

All 4 you listed as blocked are AWEFUL blocks

 

Even without super anti-fires black dragons aren't all that bad, especially when rnaging or meleeing in the evil chickens lair.

Steels and Irons were nvr that bad, thou annoying, and with the addition of the ghorrock fortress AND kuradels dungeon are epically easy to get spots for and kill.

Skele Wyverns are epically easy to batter if u got the right setup, plus wyvern bones are worth like 12k each

[Obtaurian]

Hellhounds are probably the best possible task to block. Bloodvelds and Black Demons are great experience and shouldn't be passed up. I'd say block Hellhounds and Kalphites. Wyverns are iffy. I personally wouldn't block them, but they ARE slow unless you're nearly maxed. Honestly, with Kuradal it's not even worth it to have a full block list.

[Sy_Accursed]

Hellhounds are probably the best possible task to block. Bloodvelds and Black Demons are great experience and shouldn't be passed up. I'd say block Hellhounds and Kalphites. Wyverns are iffy. I personally wouldn't block them, but they ARE slow unless you're nearly maxed. Honestly, with Kuradal it's not even worth it to have a full block list.

 

I find it odd that at 85,85, 80 I potted to do a wyvern for fally diary and I killed it no problems at all, I didn't even have to use a whole pot to do it.

 

NB: I say pot but i cant rember if its a pot a pie or a beer tht boosts slayer, either way u get the idea.

[Obtaurian]

Hellhounds are probably the best possible task to block. Bloodvelds and Black Demons are great experience and shouldn't be passed up. I'd say block Hellhounds and Kalphites. Wyverns are iffy. I personally wouldn't block them, but they ARE slow unless you're nearly maxed. Honestly, with Kuradal it's not even worth it to have a full block list.

 

I find it odd that at 85,85, 80 I potted to do a wyvern for fally diary and I killed it no problems at all, I didn't even have to use a whole pot to do it.

 

NB: I say pot but i cant rember if its a pot a pie or a beer tht boosts slayer, either way u get the idea.

 

Killing one wyvern is nothing like killing 70. While slaying, you want (or should want) to go as fast as possible. Wyverns are an annoying task that take a fairly long time with little return. Assuming that you don't get a visage, that is. I'd say wyverns become a piece of cake once you can use soul split, turmoil, and a yak. Otherwise, they're quite annoying.

[The_Fray]

The reason I have wyerns blocked is because I cannot use super antifires on them. I hate sacrificing my defender because it often means slower experience.

 

Edit: Regardless I am thinking of going in with 3 blocks instead of 4 as I simply cannot think of a good block. :unsure:

[Sy_Accursed]

Hellhounds are probably the best possible task to block. Bloodvelds and Black Demons are great experience and shouldn't be passed up. I'd say block Hellhounds and Kalphites. Wyverns are iffy. I personally wouldn't block them, but they ARE slow unless you're nearly maxed. Honestly, with Kuradal it's not even worth it to have a full block list.

 

I find it odd that at 85,85, 80 I potted to do a wyvern for fally diary and I killed it no problems at all, I didn't even have to use a whole pot to do it.

 

NB: I say pot but i cant rember if its a pot a pie or a beer tht boosts slayer, either way u get the idea.

 

Killing one wyvern is nothing like killing 70. While slaying, you want (or should want) to go as fast as possible. Wyverns are an annoying task that take a fairly long time with little return. Assuming that you don't get a visage, that is. I'd say wyverns become a piece of cake once you can use soul split, turmoil, and a yak. Otherwise, they're quite annoying.

 

That is my point however.

 

I killed it easily AND quickly; ergo they are NOT that slow.

And I'd hardly call a guaranteed 12k return per kill "little return" that's more gp per drop than any other monster really, even when averaged out over a task; wyverns are only slow when you don't know what you're doing.

 

Also not being able to use a defender = stupid reason to block a task

[Obtaurian]

Hellhounds are probably the best possible task to block. Bloodvelds and Black Demons are great experience and shouldn't be passed up. I'd say block Hellhounds and Kalphites. Wyverns are iffy. I personally wouldn't block them, but they ARE slow unless you're nearly maxed. Honestly, with Kuradal it's not even worth it to have a full block list.

 

I find it odd that at 85,85, 80 I potted to do a wyvern for fally diary and I killed it no problems at all, I didn't even have to use a whole pot to do it.

 

NB: I say pot but i cant rember if its a pot a pie or a beer tht boosts slayer, either way u get the idea.

 

Killing one wyvern is nothing like killing 70. While slaying, you want (or should want) to go as fast as possible. Wyverns are an annoying task that take a fairly long time with little return. Assuming that you don't get a visage, that is. I'd say wyverns become a piece of cake once you can use soul split, turmoil, and a yak. Otherwise, they're quite annoying.

 

That is my point however.

 

I killed it easily AND quickly; ergo they are NOT that slow.

And I'd hardly call a guaranteed 12k return per kill "little return" that's more gp per drop than any other monster really, even when averaged out over a task; wyverns are only slow when you don't know what you're doing.

 

Also not being able to use a defender = stupid reason to block a task

 

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Wyverns can freeze you. Sometimes it doesn't happen during a kill. Sometimes it happens every single time you become unfrozen. Usually, it's somewhere in between. A single wyvern is not conclusive evidence that wyverns are easy to kill. I once killed Graardor in ten seconds by myself. Does that mean I should be able to kill him in ten seconds every single time? Absolutely not.

 

FYI, wyverns bones are no where near 12k each.

 

Wyverns aren't necessarily slow, but they're slower than most other tasks, which makes them eligible for the block list.

 

EDIT: If not being able to use a defender makes a task significantly slower than most other tasks, you might consider blocking it.

[Sy_Accursed]

Oh I was thinking of dag bones, but still 3- 4k ea is dam good.

And Yes they can freeze you but the whole point is if you kill them right you won't get frozen much if at all because you get them to ONLY range you.

 

And no 1 wyvern isn't proof they are fast; its proof that you CAN kill them fast without being maxed.

Then the fact my clan has a ton of slayer nerds all of whom do wyvern tasks easily and quickly.

 

Wyverns are NOT slow or hard if you do them right, its people who ASSUME they are doing it "right" by simply charging in and hacking away that given a ton of pretty decent monsters a bad rep.

[The_Fray]

Hellhounds are probably the best possible task to block. Bloodvelds and Black Demons are great experience and shouldn't be passed up. I'd say block Hellhounds and Kalphites. Wyverns are iffy. I personally wouldn't block them, but they ARE slow unless you're nearly maxed. Honestly, with Kuradal it's not even worth it to have a full block list.

 

I find it odd that at 85,85, 80 I potted to do a wyvern for fally diary and I killed it no problems at all, I didn't even have to use a whole pot to do it.

 

NB: I say pot but i cant rember if its a pot a pie or a beer tht boosts slayer, either way u get the idea.

 

Killing one wyvern is nothing like killing 70. While slaying, you want (or should want) to go as fast as possible. Wyverns are an annoying task that take a fairly long time with little return. Assuming that you don't get a visage, that is. I'd say wyverns become a piece of cake once you can use soul split, turmoil, and a yak. Otherwise, they're quite annoying.

 

That is my point however.

 

I killed it easily AND quickly; ergo they are NOT that slow.

And I'd hardly call a guaranteed 12k return per kill "little return" that's more gp per drop than any other monster really, even when averaged out over a task; wyverns are only slow when you don't know what you're doing.

 

Also not being able to use a defender = stupid reason to block a task

 

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Wyverns can freeze you. Sometimes it doesn't happen during a kill. Sometimes it happens every single time you become unfrozen. Usually, it's somewhere in between. A single wyvern is not conclusive evidence that wyverns are easy to kill. I once killed Graardor in ten seconds by myself. Does that mean I should be able to kill him in ten seconds every single time? Absolutely not.

 

FYI, wyverns bones are no where near 12k each.

 

Wyverns aren't necessarily slow, but they're slower than most other tasks, which makes them eligible for the block list.

EDIT: If not being able to use a defender makes a task significantly slower than most other tasks, you might consider blocking it.

That is what I generally feel with most tasks, I will admit I dont have much experience with wyerns though. I did a task of wyerns last time and I found them significantly slower than most tasks Duradel/Kuradal assigns.

[Obtaurian]

Oh I was thinking of dag bones, but still 3- 4k ea is dam good.

And Yes they can freeze you but the whole point is if you kill them right you won't get frozen much if at all because you get them to ONLY range you.

 

And no 1 wyvern isn't proof they are fast; its proof that you CAN kill them fast without being maxed.

Then the fact my clan has a ton of slayer nerds all of whom do wyvern tasks easily and quickly.

 

Wyverns are NOT slow or hard if you do them right, its people who ASSUME they are doing it "right" by simply charging in and hacking away that given a ton of pretty decent monsters a bad rep.

 

You really need to clarify that you're ranging and not melee'ing. You're using the more expensive AND slower method. You've defeated your own point by acknowledging that your method produces poorer results with the only benefit being that it's more leisurely. With piety and near maxed melee, I can complete a wyvern task faster than you can, but still not fast enough to say without hesitation that they do not deserve to be on my block list. They're still slow experience with my stats.

 

If you haven't guessed, I'm a slayer nerd, too. I find a lot of enjoyment in slaying efficiently and as fast as possible in order to max my experience per hour.

[Sy_Accursed]

Oh I was thinking of dag bones, but still 3- 4k ea is dam good.

And Yes they can freeze you but the whole point is if you kill them right you won't get frozen much if at all because you get them to ONLY range you.

 

And no 1 wyvern isn't proof they are fast; its proof that you CAN kill them fast without being maxed.

Then the fact my clan has a ton of slayer nerds all of whom do wyvern tasks easily and quickly.

 

Wyverns are NOT slow or hard if you do them right, its people who ASSUME they are doing it "right" by simply charging in and hacking away that given a ton of pretty decent monsters a bad rep.

 

You really need to clarify that you're ranging and not melee'ing. You're using the more expensive AND slower method. You've defeated your own point by acknowledging that your method produces poorer results with the only benefit being that it's more leisurely. With piety and near maxed melee, I can complete a wyvern task faster than you can, but still not fast enough to say without hesitation that they do not deserve to be on my block list. They're still slow experience with my stats.

 

If you haven't guessed, I'm a slayer nerd, too. I find a lot of enjoyment in slaying efficiently and as fast as possible in order to max my experience per hour.

 

The fact is though they are NOT at all slow if you're doing them right; everybody is pre-programmed into thinking they are slow and hating them and refuse to see otherwise based on the information from the people who go in hacking and slashing and don;t bother to consider tactics. Yes wyverns aren't one of the fastest tasks out there, but they are faster by a long shot than many task people don't bother to block.

[Obtaurian]

Oh I was thinking of dag bones, but still 3- 4k ea is dam good.

And Yes they can freeze you but the whole point is if you kill them right you won't get frozen much if at all because you get them to ONLY range you.

 

And no 1 wyvern isn't proof they are fast; its proof that you CAN kill them fast without being maxed.

Then the fact my clan has a ton of slayer nerds all of whom do wyvern tasks easily and quickly.

 

Wyverns are NOT slow or hard if you do them right, its people who ASSUME they are doing it "right" by simply charging in and hacking away that given a ton of pretty decent monsters a bad rep.

 

You really need to clarify that you're ranging and not melee'ing. You're using the more expensive AND slower method. You've defeated your own point by acknowledging that your method produces poorer results with the only benefit being that it's more leisurely. With piety and near maxed melee, I can complete a wyvern task faster than you can, but still not fast enough to say without hesitation that they do not deserve to be on my block list. They're still slow experience with my stats.

 

If you haven't guessed, I'm a slayer nerd, too. I find a lot of enjoyment in slaying efficiently and as fast as possible in order to max my experience per hour.

 

The fact is though they are NOT at all slow if you're doing them right; everybody is pre-programmed into thinking they are slow and hating them and refuse to see otherwise based on the information from the people who go in hacking and slashing and don;t bother to consider tactics. Yes wyverns aren't one of the fastest tasks out there, but they are faster by a long shot than many task people don't bother to block.

 

That's not true at all. They ARE one of the slower tasks in terms of slayer experience. I feel like you're assuming that I'm one of the those people who hate wyverns. I'm not. I do every wyvern task without a frown. I can do them relatively quickly, too, but that doesn't change the fact that most other tasks provide either more slayer experience, more combat experience, or more profit per hour than wyverns.

[The_Fray]

How about steels though, I see people unblocking irons but not steels. Are steels still too slow to unblock?

[Obtaurian]

How about steels though, I see people unblocking irons but not steels. Are steels still too slow to unblock?

 

With just 85 herblore, they're probably worth doing. With 85 herblore and a yak, they're absolutely worth doing for the profit alone. However, it still depends on your priorities. If you want slayer experience, they still might be worth blocking.

[glasscube]

Steels are much better now that there are lots of places to slay steel dragons, AND ONLY steel dragons

[Umoria]

Hellhounds are probably the best possible task to block. Bloodvelds and Black Demons are great experience and shouldn't be passed up. I'd say block Hellhounds and Kalphites. Wyverns are iffy. I personally wouldn't block them, but they ARE slow unless you're nearly maxed. Honestly, with Kuradal it's not even worth it to have a full block list.

 

I find it odd that at 85,85, 80 I potted to do a wyvern for fally diary and I killed it no problems at all, I didn't even have to use a whole pot to do it.

 

NB: I say pot but i cant rember if its a pot a pie or a beer tht boosts slayer, either way u get the idea.

 

Killing one wyvern is nothing like killing 70. While slaying, you want (or should want) to go as fast as possible. Wyverns are an annoying task that take a fairly long time with little return. Assuming that you don't get a visage, that is. I'd say wyverns become a piece of cake once you can use soul split, turmoil, and a yak. Otherwise, they're quite annoying.

 

On this forum there is a AoW guide with missunderstood monsters. Wyverns can be a pain in the cabbage, but the guide shows it's not bad money at all.

And with the right equipment, it's not as hard and annoying you assume it is. So to the poster of this thread: look for the guide and make your decision.

Even the freezing part isn't a real reason to kick them, and block the task.

 

Well on to the question: iron drags, steel drags and black drags are three you should DO. With the Kuradel dungeon, it's easier to get to the metal drags, and Black Drags aren't bad exp.

Bloodvelds are pretty annoying, everytime I get a bloodveld task I want to jump off Lumbridge Castle. But it's good exp, and the charms come in frequently.

I was thinking of blocking them, but I don't do it.

 

Hellhounds is a task I would block. No drops, exp isn't that good, and the only reason you CAN do them, is the gold charm drop and clue drop.

But then again, for both drops, there's a better monster you should consider.

Don't know about kalphites, usually I get the task, I hop to a world, and got a dungeon just for myself. Not that bad.

 

Consider the hellhound option, and look for the misunderstood monsterguide in AoW. Then make a decision for yourself. Morningrise333 is just hating them. That point he made here :mrgreen:

[JoeDaStudd]

Skeletal wyerns aren't bad at all.

Wear melee armour, piety and take either a unicorn or BoB.

 

I've not had a task of them for a while, but the last one I had took about 45 minutes (including banking) for 55 of them, at almost flat 85's.

The freeze thing isn't too common and just use the time to eat or pot. Since you only get frozen once or twice per kill a the most it gives you more then enough time to heal up without wasting combat turns.

 

There biggest selling points are there crimson drops (slightly over 1 per kill, with a few other charms too), higher then average visage drop, bones (just fill up as you use the food and you'll double your money) and the granite legs.

 

There extremely rare as far as tasks go so just skip them don't block them.

 

With your stats switch to Kuradal. As the rings speed up any tasks in the dungeon massively and she doesn't assign kalphites or terrorbirds.

Black demons are hit and miss, I unblocked them about 20 tasks ago and still haven't had them (I want to cannon as many tasks as possible for range exp and speed).

Bloodvelds are amazing exp and shouldn't be blocked. If you fancy a fast,but cheap task take a few bones to peaches tabs, a few titan scrolls and your favorite ele titan. Kill them in the same dungeon as the mutated ones only in the back room (behind where you would normally kill them). The titan will speed up the task a far bit, you'll be able to do it in one go and I've never seen anyone else use that spot so no fighting for spawns (I think theres 4 or 5 spawns there).

 

My current block list is just steels as when I switched to kuradal (and got 88 summoning) irons, greaters, aquanites, kalphites and hellhounds all either go extremely easy (due to the rings) or disappeared.

[Obtaurian]

Umoria,

 

As I've already stated, I don't dislike wyverns at all. That AoW guide discusses camping at wyverns. We're slaying here. When slaying, slayer experience is assumed to be the main priority. In terms of slayer experience, wyverns are not that great.

 

You should really slay a little more before you try and argue.

[Umoria]

Umoria,

 

As I've already stated, I don't dislike wyverns at all. That AoW guide discusses camping at wyverns. We're slaying here. When slaying, slayer experience is assumed to the be the main priority. In terms of slayer experience, wyverns are not that great.

 

You should really slay a little more before you try and argue.

 

Now your just being a cabbage here dude. You assume that I don't know NOTHING of slaying, and because you have higher levels, I couldn't argue with you.

I do argue. Even if the exp isn't that great, because "We're slaying here" it's op to Gold to read and consider.

I give him a tool, so he can look for himself. And he makes his choice.

 

Oh, and next time, don't try to better the better man because you spend more time on RS then I do.

[Obtaurian]

Umoria,

 

As I've already stated, I don't dislike wyverns at all. That AoW guide discusses camping at wyverns. We're slaying here. When slaying, slayer experience is assumed to the be the main priority. In terms of slayer experience, wyverns are not that great.

 

You should really slay a little more before you try and argue.

 

Now your just being a cabbage here dude. You assume that I don't know NOTHING of slaying, and because you have higher levels, I couldn't argue with you.

I do argue. Even if the exp isn't that great, because "We're slaying here" it's op to Gold to read and consider.

I give him a tool, so he can look for himself. And he makes his choice.

 

Oh, and next time, don't try to better the better man because you spend more time on RS then I do.

 

Uh oh, was that a resounding "LOL NO LIFE" that I just heard? I wasn't implying that your lower slayer level meant that you had less experience. I was implying that your inability to produce an informed account of how to best slay wyverns meant that you had less experience.

 

This will be my last response to you. I don't talk to immature little brats that assume too much and know too little. That goes for both slayer and my time spent playing Runescape.

[The_Fray]

Thanks for the replies thus far from everyone. I will consider what has been said about wyerns and may give them a try but if they turn out to be too painful then they will be back on my list.

 

Steels will stay on for now as I will try and see if the increased accuracy (Zamorakian Spear) makes a big difference on irons and if it does then I will consider pulling off steels as well.

 

Regardless I think I can safely say that with the new resources now made available, having 4 blocks is no longer desirable.

[Umoria]

Thanks for the replies thus far from everyone. I will consider what has been said about wyerns and may give them a try but if they turn out to be too painful then they will be back on my list.

 

Steels will stay on for now as I will try and see if the increased accuracy (Zamorakian Spear) makes a big difference on irons and if it does then I will consider pulling off steels as well.

 

Regardless I think I can safely say that with the new resources now made available, having 4 blocks is no longer desirable.

 

Well as said: with the Kuradel dungeon it isn't needed anymore with better spots and options. Wich comes to my final conclusion: happy slaying!!

 

And to Morningrise333:

You think you hear something, but you heard it wrong. So you assume something wich isn't true. Just SSSHHHH :shame:

[zotto]

Warning:

 

I found that irons are faster with whip and defender than z-spear. (super anti-fire needed of course).

[UserOnRS]

I probably wouldn't block any monsters, but the worst tasks are (in order of what they'd be in my block list) warped tortoises, steel dragons, mithril dragons, black dragons, iron dragons, terror dogs and hellhounds. There are quite a lot of tasks people may not like but I'd do them from Kuradal's list but the ones listed have the worst xp rates I believe. The reason warped tortoises are first are that I'd have to change my crystal saw to chimes and back, and also there's only two good spawns for them. It's a shame that Kuradal doesn't assign the terrorbirds. :( Also I wouldn't want to have to switch to the Zamorakian spear to kill steels as it's such a bad weapon. :P

 

I like wyverns as they have good drops and are probably in the top 5 monsters in the game for charms - with a yak you can complete a task in one trip and make a decent amount of money.