Dragon Claws to 55%?

[KISS]

Over the past year, Jagex has given us the legendary pair of Dragon Claws. To some its a dream come true, but to others its a nightmare that should have never started.

 

As we know Dragon Claws is one of the strongest weapons in terms of its special attack, It has a chance of hitting 90+ On the right circumstances and could instantly kill anyone off guard and if not dead it has a chance to hit 90+ again. This is great for Monster killing and PVPing, but on the other hand I and many others do argue that it is way too overpowered.

 

Now think back, there use to be an item that also caused huge amounts of damage and capable of doing it twice. At the time this could kill anyone off guard in the same way the Dragon Claws do now. Well if you cant think of what the item could be, it is the none other then the Magic Short Bow. You may be thinking WTF? But during this period there were no Super pots, Godswords, Rocktails, Brews, Armadyl, or what ever, granting the MSB a special attack that could be done twice and has a very strong chance of killing anything and anyone. The MSB right now is honestly very underused ever since the 55% update and the introduction of the Hand Cannon, Zanik's Crossbow, Dark Bow, Rune Crossbow, Karil's Crossbow. Yes it is still used but do you really see people use the special attack?

 

Now on to my view. Usually I would often make trips to W18, or W65 for a nice bunch of time to relax and just kill other players. But with the relatively low cost of Dragon Claws its more then likely I will get Pj'ed by a one itemer with Dragon Claws or a person risking full bandos and a firecape. Honestly, I seem to dislike Pking nowadays and tend to go to the non +1 worlds and just Pk without the worry of being killed.

 

The real question is whether or not Dragon Claws should be changed to 55% just like the MSB, and also like the Dark Bow?

[oXMutilateXo]

Over the past year, Jagex has given us the legendary pair of Dragon Claws. To some its a dream come true, but to others its a nightmare that should have never started.

 

As we know Dragon Claws is one of the strongest weapons in terms of its special attack, It has a chance of hitting 90+ On the right circumstances and could instantly kill anyone off guard and if not dead it has a chance to hit 90+ again. This is great for Monster killing and PVPing, but on the other hand I and many others do argue that it is way too overpowered.

 

Now think back, there use to be an item that also caused huge amounts of damage and capable of doing it twice. At the time this could kill anyone off guard in the same way the Dragon Claws do now. Well if you cant think of what the item could be, it is the none other then the Magic Short Bow. You may be thinking WTF? But during this period there were no Super pots, Godswords, Rocktails, Brews, Armadyl, or what ever, granting the MSB a special attack that could be done twice and has a very strong chance of killing anything and anyone. The MSB right now is honestly very underused ever since the 55% update and the introduction of the Hand Cannon, Zanik's Crossbow, Dark Bow, Rune Crossbow, Karil's Crossbow. Yes it is still used but do you really see people use the special attack?

 

Now on to my view. Usually I would often make trips to W18, or W65 for a nice bunch of time to relax and just kill other players. But with the relatively low cost of Dragon Claws its more then likely I will get Pj'ed by a one itemer with Dragon Claws or a person risking full bandos and a firecape. Honestly, I seem to dislike Pking nowadays and tend to go to the non +1 worlds and just Pk without the worry of being killed.

 

The real question is whether or not Dragon Claws should be changed to 55% just like the MSB, and also like the Dark Bow?

 

waiting for you to complain about ags spec too, though you have to see this as a l2p issue tbf, its [cabbage] after the two specs it can do, and you can just watch ur back and have quick prayer to prot from melee and piety and eat as soon as the first hit connects after flicking it on, maybe even wear a ring of life if your that worried and change it when in a legit fight?

 

 

btw i dont rly disagree but im biased and so are you on this issue, id say [cabbage] wep for 33.5m must have some benefits, and 90 in pvp situations is impossible ( wilderness anyway )

[KISS]

Over the past year, Jagex has given us the legendary pair of Dragon Claws. To some its a dream come true, but to others its a nightmare that should have never started.

 

As we know Dragon Claws is one of the strongest weapons in terms of its special attack, It has a chance of hitting 90+ On the right circumstances and could instantly kill anyone off guard and if not dead it has a chance to hit 90+ again. This is great for Monster killing and PVPing, but on the other hand I and many others do argue that it is way too overpowered.

 

Now think back, there use to be an item that also caused huge amounts of damage and capable of doing it twice. At the time this could kill anyone off guard in the same way the Dragon Claws do now. Well if you cant think of what the item could be, it is the none other then the Magic Short Bow. You may be thinking WTF? But during this period there were no Super pots, Godswords, Rocktails, Brews, Armadyl, or what ever, granting the MSB a special attack that could be done twice and has a very strong chance of killing anything and anyone. The MSB right now is honestly very underused ever since the 55% update and the introduction of the Hand Cannon, Zanik's Crossbow, Dark Bow, Rune Crossbow, Karil's Crossbow. Yes it is still used but do you really see people use the special attack?

 

Now on to my view. Usually I would often make trips to W18, or W65 for a nice bunch of time to relax and just kill other players. But with the relatively low cost of Dragon Claws its more then likely I will get Pj'ed by a one itemer with Dragon Claws or a person risking full bandos and a firecape. Honestly, I seem to dislike Pking nowadays and tend to go to the non +1 worlds and just Pk without the worry of being killed.

 

The real question is whether or not Dragon Claws should be changed to 55% just like the MSB, and also like the Dark Bow?

 

waiting for you to complain about ags spec too, though you have to see this as a l2p issue tbf, its [cabbage] after the two specs it can do, and you can just watch ur back and have quick prayer to prot from melee and piety and eat as soon as the first hit connects after flicking it on, maybe even wear a ring of life if your that worried and change it when in a legit fight?

 

 

btw i dont rly disagree but im biased and so are you on this issue, id say [cabbage] wep for 33.5m must have some benefits, and 90 in pvp situations is impossible ( wilderness anyway )

 

Lol, Honestly I am a near Maxed zerker and I cant and will never be able to use piety. The thing is about the AGS is that its 115m and clearly is by far harder to acheive an AGS and for that price. The AGS is perfect, with a perfect price tag.

[oXMutilateXo]

Over the past year, Jagex has given us the legendary pair of Dragon Claws. To some its a dream come true, but to others its a nightmare that should have never started.

 

As we know Dragon Claws is one of the strongest weapons in terms of its special attack, It has a chance of hitting 90+ On the right circumstances and could instantly kill anyone off guard and if not dead it has a chance to hit 90+ again. This is great for Monster killing and PVPing, but on the other hand I and many others do argue that it is way too overpowered.

 

Now think back, there use to be an item that also caused huge amounts of damage and capable of doing it twice. At the time this could kill anyone off guard in the same way the Dragon Claws do now. Well if you cant think of what the item could be, it is the none other then the Magic Short Bow. You may be thinking WTF? But during this period there were no Super pots, Godswords, Rocktails, Brews, Armadyl, or what ever, granting the MSB a special attack that could be done twice and has a very strong chance of killing anything and anyone. The MSB right now is honestly very underused ever since the 55% update and the introduction of the Hand Cannon, Zanik's Crossbow, Dark Bow, Rune Crossbow, Karil's Crossbow. Yes it is still used but do you really see people use the special attack?

 

Now on to my view. Usually I would often make trips to W18, or W65 for a nice bunch of time to relax and just kill other players. But with the relatively low cost of Dragon Claws its more then likely I will get Pj'ed by a one itemer with Dragon Claws or a person risking full bandos and a firecape. Honestly, I seem to dislike Pking nowadays and tend to go to the non +1 worlds and just Pk without the worry of being killed.

 

The real question is whether or not Dragon Claws should be changed to 55% just like the MSB, and also like the Dark Bow?

 

waiting for you to complain about ags spec too, though you have to see this as a l2p issue tbf, its [cabbage] after the two specs it can do, and you can just watch ur back and have quick prayer to prot from melee and piety and eat as soon as the first hit connects after flicking it on, maybe even wear a ring of life if your that worried and change it when in a legit fight?

 

 

btw i dont rly disagree but im biased and so are you on this issue, id say [cabbage] wep for 33.5m must have some benefits, and 90 in pvp situations is impossible ( wilderness anyway )

 

Lol, Honestly I am a near Maxed zerker and I cant and will never be able to use piety. The thing is about the AGS is that its 115m and clearly is by far harder to acheive an AGS and for that price. The AGS is perfect, with a perfect price tag.

 

well ultimate defense and prot from melee set to quick prayers then, and money shouldnt be an issue in balance issues :P tho i have an ags myself i did used to use claws before that, i know there are serious cons for legit fighters and rushing is so boring u might aswell not play, and u defo wont get friends as a rusher coz there always 11 and have a small penis, dont forget tho, u can use claws too ;)

[Nopnoob]

stay on topic please.

 

Dragon claws shouldnt be nerfed.

[The_Gabe]

stay on topic please.

 

Dragon claws shouldnt be nerfed.

 

Coming from a person who just rushes people with them :roll:

 

They are way overpowered. And you can't compare them to AGS, either. AGS is a weapon on it's own, and if you've pked with it, you know the spec is very inaccurate.

[KISS]

stay on topic please.

 

Dragon claws shouldnt be nerfed.

 

May I have your reason why?

I'd love to know... :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Nopnoob]

just because you cant afford a pair doesnt mean they have to get nerfed because people who can afford them own you with them?

[Tim]

Your missing the point. Even if I could afford them I wouldn't buy them. They ARE overpowered. A weapon that can kill your opponent with 1 special is just plain overkill. especially in PVP when you get Ice Barraged then rushed out of no where by D Claws. before you know it, your dead before you can eat. 'course you already knew this Nop. :rolleyes:

 

Edit: Holy F, I'm making too many typos.

[JoeDaStudd]

Leech special attack would almost completely nullify the effects for high end users of d claws.

[oXMutilateXo]

rofl!! u say we should stay on topic then completely ruin urself with insults and THEY SHOULDNT BE NERFDD COZ I SED SO! , everyone hates d claws because there nooby as [bleep] ( btw ags spec should be a ton more accurate than d claws in theory, 80 slash attack and 155 slash attack :P

[oXMutilateXo]

dark_aura if youre too fat and slow to click 'protect from melee' fast enough you should slim down

 

Please Get the (Cabbage) out, I have an AGS with 10M odd cash + 5 Mints, I am not poor kid. You really should start trying to PK of you ever get coordinated enough to do it.

And stop putting people down, go do that to your parents.

 

offtopic but how often do ur ags specs miss in a 1v1 rune fight? i bought one then was banned 20 mins later for 2 weeks so havent had chance to test :(

[KISS]

dark_aura if youre too fat and slow to click 'protect from melee' fast enough you should slim down

 

Please Get the (Cabbage) out, I have an AGS with 10M odd cash + 5 Mints, I am not poor kid. You really should start trying to PK of you ever get coordinated enough to do it.

And stop putting people down, go do that to your parents.

 

offtopic but how often do ur ags specs miss in a 1v1 rune fight? i bought one then was banned 20 mins later for 2 weeks so havent had chance to test :(

 

Honestly, I am 75 attack maxed and only level 95 comat :), my specs do hit quite often around the 50 area, strangely it rarely hits below 25 when I spec. Though I must say more often then not dragon claws are somewhat more accurate, maybe it's just me but.. :l Overall it's a great all round weapon.

[oXMutilateXo]

dark_aura if youre too fat and slow to click 'protect from melee' fast enough you should slim down

 

Please Get the (Cabbage) out, I have an AGS with 10M odd cash + 5 Mints, I am not poor kid. You really should start trying to PK of you ever get coordinated enough to do it.

And stop putting people down, go do that to your parents.

 

offtopic but how often do ur ags specs miss in a 1v1 rune fight? i bought one then was banned 20 mins later for 2 weeks so havent had chance to test :(

 

Honestly, I am 75 attack maxed and only level 95 comat :), my specs do hit quite often around the 50 area, strangely it rarely hits below 25 when I spec. Though I must say more often then not dragon claws are somewhat more accurate, maybe it's just me but.. :l Overall it's a great all round weapon.

ahh wellim 99 everything and fight vs 99 everthing too, think it will hit often enough to warrent the price?

[KISS]

dark_aura if youre too fat and slow to click 'protect from melee' fast enough you should slim down

 

Please Get the (Cabbage) out, I have an AGS with 10M odd cash + 5 Mints, I am not poor kid. You really should start trying to PK of you ever get coordinated enough to do it.

And stop putting people down, go do that to your parents.

 

offtopic but how often do ur ags specs miss in a 1v1 rune fight? i bought one then was banned 20 mins later for 2 weeks so havent had chance to test :(

 

Honestly, I am 75 attack maxed and only level 95 comat :), my specs do hit quite often around the 50 area, strangely it rarely hits below 25 when I spec. Though I must say more often then not dragon claws are somewhat more accurate, maybe it's just me but.. :l Overall it's a great all round weapon.

ahh wellim 99 everything and fight vs 99 everthing too, think it will hit often enough to warrent the price?

 

 

Most definatly, unless you have enough for a elly/divine + whip :P.

[oXMutilateXo]

dark_aura if youre too fat and slow to click 'protect from melee' fast enough you should slim down

 

Please Get the (Cabbage) out, I have an AGS with 10M odd cash + 5 Mints, I am not poor kid. You really should start trying to PK of you ever get coordinated enough to do it.

And stop putting people down, go do that to your parents.

 

offtopic but how often do ur ags specs miss in a 1v1 rune fight? i bought one then was banned 20 mins later for 2 weeks so havent had chance to test :(

 

Honestly, I am 75 attack maxed and only level 95 comat :), my specs do hit quite often around the 50 area, strangely it rarely hits below 25 when I spec. Though I must say more often then not dragon claws are somewhat more accurate, maybe it's just me but.. :l Overall it's a great all round weapon.

ahh wellim 99 everything and fight vs 99 everthing too, think it will hit often enough to warrent the price?

 

 

Most definatly, unless you have enough for a elly/divine + whip :P.

 

too much to loose everytime i die but i dont have enough anyway :(

[UserOnRS]

AGS is more overpowered I'd say as you can counter claws with a phoenix necklace unless you get specced before you can equip one. It's almost impossible to die with a phoenix necklace to d claws but with AGS it hits highly accurately. So if they change one they should change the other too.

 

It's funny how people used to say DDS was overpowered, I still think it is but look at the weapons now. :P

[KISS]

AGS is more overpowered I'd say as you can counter claws with a phoenix necklace unless you get specced before you can equip one. It's almost impossible to die with a phoenix necklace to d claws but with AGS it hits highly accurately. So if they change one they should change the other too.

 

It's funny how people used to say DDS was overpowered, I still think it is but look at the weapons now. :P

 

With my experience in Pking, I find that the AGS misses alot compared to D Claws. Also not everyone can afford 115M for an AGS lol.

[oXMutilateXo]

AGS is more overpowered I'd say as you can counter claws with a phoenix necklace unless you get specced before you can equip one. It's almost impossible to die with a phoenix necklace to d claws but with AGS it hits highly accurately. So if they change one they should change the other too.

 

It's funny how people used to say DDS was overpowered, I still think it is but look at the weapons now. :P

 

nice idea and there ARE counters to claws, but there inefficent because you need a diff ammy than phoenix to pk with, wasting 1 space and the possiblity of equiping too late, ring of life doesnt always work vs claws as the cutoff is a bit low ( understandably tho ) and ags has been op since release but its been the same for so long they wont change it, id say a 55 percent drain but the spec gives increased accuracy aswell as 25 perc more damage would be a fair tradeoff tho

[KISS]

AGS is more overpowered I'd say as you can counter claws with a phoenix necklace unless you get specced before you can equip one. It's almost impossible to die with a phoenix necklace to d claws but with AGS it hits highly accurately. So if they change one they should change the other too.

 

It's funny how people used to say DDS was overpowered, I still think it is but look at the weapons now. :P

 

nice idea and there ARE counters to claws, but there inefficent because you need a diff ammy than phoenix to pk with, wasting 1 space and the possiblity of equiping too late, ring of life doesnt always work vs claws as the cutoff is a bit low ( understandably tho ) and ags has been op since release but its been the same for so long they wont change it, id say a 55 percent drain but the spec gives increased accuracy aswell as 25 perc more damage would be a fair tradeoff tho

 

^ Agreed, oh and I reported that nub for trolling this thread..

[Albel]

Yeah I do remember reading that the MSB special when it first came out was like 15% or 25% used. Was to powerful and thus was nerfed to 55% used. I dont see a problem with dragon claws being nerfed. Besides the backlash that comes with it and may last a couple weeks. But then people will get over it.

[K4ylan]

First time I have ever heard about the MSB spec being anything but 55%. Maybe other will never know, or forget that D Claws were 50%.

[Darth Fatguy]

The Dragon Claws special should stay at 50% drain, but the amount of damage it does should be slightly reduced. (Just enough to still leave it a tad stronger than the Dragon Dagger special)

[AnneFrank]

Dragon claws shouldn't be nerfed

[Ned]

I've fallen victim to claws many times, but I actually think they are fine. Looking at them overall, sure the spec is good, and it really is the victim's fault if they get killed (it's really easy to watch your back, only times I've ever died was when I wasn't paying attention), but after that, it's absolute trash. Combined with the high price, it seems fine to me. Other weapons have powerful specials (AGS) and are a great weapon afterwards.