Dragon Claws to 55%?

[oXMutilateXo]

I've fallen victim to claws many times, but I actually think they are fine. Looking at them overall, sure the spec is good, and it really is the victim's fault if they get killed (it's really easy to watch your back, only times I've ever died was when I wasn't paying attention), but after that, it's absolute trash. Combined with the high price, it seems fine to me. Other weapons have powerful specials (AGS) and are a great weapon afterwards.

i dont think that it should be justified because its bad after its super powerful specs, if anything improve it allround

[DemonicSushi]

Over the past year, Jagex has given us the legendary pair of Dragon Claws. To some its a dream come true, but to others its a nightmare that should have never started.

 

As we know Dragon Claws is one of the strongest weapons in terms of its special attack, It has a chance of hitting 90+ On the right circumstances and could instantly kill anyone off guard and if not dead it has a chance to hit 90+ again. This is great for Monster killing and PVPing, but on the other hand I and many others do argue that it is way too overpowered.

 

Now think back, there use to be an item that also caused huge amounts of damage and capable of doing it twice. At the time this could kill anyone off guard in the same way the Dragon Claws do now. Well if you cant think of what the item could be, it is the none other then the Magic Short Bow. You may be thinking WTF? But during this period there were no Super pots, Godswords, Rocktails, Brews, Armadyl, or what ever, granting the MSB a special attack that could be done twice and has a very strong chance of killing anything and anyone. The MSB right now is honestly very underused ever since the 55% update and the introduction of the Hand Cannon, Zanik's Crossbow, Dark Bow, Rune Crossbow, Karil's Crossbow. Yes it is still used but do you really see people use the special attack?

 

Now on to my view. Usually I would often make trips to W18, or W65 for a nice bunch of time to relax and just kill other players. But with the relatively low cost of Dragon Claws its more then likely I will get Pj'ed by a one itemer with Dragon Claws or a person risking full bandos and a firecape. Honestly, I seem to dislike Pking nowadays and tend to go to the non +1 worlds and just Pk without the worry of being killed.

 

The real question is whether or not Dragon Claws should be changed to 55% just like the MSB, and also like the Dark Bow?

 

Sorry but this is absolutely RIDICULOUS...

 

If you think they are so good why dont you buy a pair instead of whining???

 

Personally i think they suck and i much rather prefer using a DDS...

[KISS]

 

Sorry but this is absolutely RIDICULOUS...

 

If you think they are so good why dont you buy a pair instead of whining???

 

Personally i think they suck and i much rather prefer using a DDS...

 

First of all you didn't have to quote all of that. :thumbdown:

 

Secondly, I am certain you have no idea what in the world on runescape is PVP. :thumbdown:

 

Thirdly, I do not wish to join the bunch of [maggots] who use this? Plus if the MSB can be nerfed why not this? :thumbdown:

 

Lastly, I am not whining I am sharing my opinion. :cool:

[Kalafai]

I remember the MSB being a nice, clean 50%

 

But we now have ways to counter special attacks, with sap spirit, and don't we have a special that drains a bit?

[xpandax]

it should be given a 55% spec, but it won't. And BTW super pots have been around since rsc... so you were wrong about that. And even WITHOUT the spec, the msb was the strongest weapon of its time (early RS2). The best damage/sec weapon in the game for melee at the time was the dragon long, and the dds wasn't even out yet so you couldn't use the dds spec for a ko you had to use either the d mace or d long spec (LAWL i know right). MSB provided the best consistent damage in the game and had the best spec in the game which could be done back to back... that is why it was nerfed.

[DemonicSushi]

it should be given a 55% spec, but it won't. And BTW super pots have been around since rsc... so you were wrong about that. And even WITHOUT the spec, the msb was the strongest weapon of its time (early RS2). The best damage/sec weapon in the game for melee at the time was the dragon long, and the dds wasn't even out yet so you couldn't use the dds spec for a ko you had to use either the d mace or d long spec (LAWL i know right). MSB provided the best consistent damage in the game and had the best spec in the game which could be done back to back... that is why it was nerfed.

 

wow ur dumb, herblore came out a few years ago -.-

[xpandax]

it should be given a 55% spec, but it won't. And BTW super pots have been around since rsc... so you were wrong about that. And even WITHOUT the spec, the msb was the strongest weapon of its time (early RS2). The best damage/sec weapon in the game for melee at the time was the dragon long, and the dds wasn't even out yet so you couldn't use the dds spec for a ko you had to use either the d mace or d long spec (LAWL i know right). MSB provided the best consistent damage in the game and had the best spec in the game which could be done back to back... that is why it was nerfed.

 

wow ur dumb, herblore came out a few years ago -.-

 

lmfao you're kidding right? i have an account with bunny ears which is proof i've played since at least 2003 (which was rsc) and I have played since 2001... hell even my join date to these forums is pre RS2 and you're calling me dumb? herbLORE didn't exist until RS2, but in RSC the SAME skill was called herbLAW and had the same potions your current herblore has minus a few exceptions. Also herb used to be profitable to train to 99... don't criticize something you know nothing about please, this isn't the RSOF

[xpandax]

and back to being on topic, i've found on my ranged tank (combat 95, 87 def 95 ranged) that as you leave the 80s d claws lose affectiveness back when i was pking as an 85 with 60 def i used to have to safe through a claw spec, now i really don't worry about the spec if i'm hanging around 40 hp as generally they dont even hit me... and as a longtime pker i have to say i used to be more afraid of d claw specs than ags specs... AGS has always been terribly inaccurate on my tank... and still is. since i've moved up to 87 defense i haven't been hit by a gs spec yet.

[DemonicSushi]

it should be given a 55% spec, but it won't. And BTW super pots have been around since rsc... so you were wrong about that. And even WITHOUT the spec, the msb was the strongest weapon of its time (early RS2). The best damage/sec weapon in the game for melee at the time was the dragon long, and the dds wasn't even out yet so you couldn't use the dds spec for a ko you had to use either the d mace or d long spec (LAWL i know right). MSB provided the best consistent damage in the game and had the best spec in the game which could be done back to back... that is why it was nerfed.

 

wow ur dumb, herblore came out a few years ago -.-

 

lmfao you're kidding right? i have an account with bunny ears which is proof i've played since at least 2003 (which was rsc) and I have played since 2001... hell even my join date to these forums is pre RS2 and you're calling me dumb? herbLORE didn't exist until RS2, but in RSC the SAME skill was called herbLAW and had the same potions your current herblore has minus a few exceptions. Also herb used to be profitable to train to 99... don't criticize something you know nothing about please, this isn't the RSOF

 

Lol i also joined in RSC... just saying herbLORE didnt exist -.- super pots werent exactly the same as they are now

[xpandax]

In early rs2? yes, super pots were exactly the same as they are now... there just wasn't as much melee damage being put out as there is now because the best melee weapon in the game was a d logn which could hit in the low 40s with its spec, with super pots, and with ultimate str on. But as we all know, not too long after they nerfed the msb out came the whip and melee once again became the most powerful combat type.

[chuckangie]

They don't need to change the spec bar usage on the claws. Why? Because its a melee weapon. Most likely it will simply be over shadowed by an even more POWERFUL melee weapon introduced in the future. Same applies to godswords.

 

If it was a range weapon or something that boosts magic then that'd be a different story.

[stonewall337]

If you die to dragon claws, you deserve it. It is incredibly easy to avoid being rushed. If they went to 55%, all their other uses, such as specing in slaying, and for bossing, would be ruined.

[Cheefoo]

If they went to 55%, all their other uses, such as specing in slaying, and for bossing, would be ruined.

 

Not really. You can just use it, wait 30 seconds and use it again. If you can afford dragon claws (useless weapon besides their special), you should be able to afford special attack restore potions. However, in PvP, 30 seconds makes a big difference. Being able to OHKO someone under the right circumstances (less than 99 hp, blitz combos, etc.) with an accurate special, and being able to do it AGAIN if failed is a bit overpowered to me.

[hohto]

Not really. You can just use it, wait 30 seconds and use it again. If you can afford dragon claws (useless weapon besides their special), you should be able to afford special attack restore potions. However, in PvP, 30 seconds makes a big difference. Being able to OHKO someone under the right circumstances (less than 99 hp, blitz combos, etc.) with an accurate special, and being able to do it AGAIN if failed is a bit overpowered to me.

 

55% would ruin claws to be honest. During pkin you just don't spec, wait 30 secs and spec again. The idea is to deal a maximum number of damage before the victim gets to eat. If the claws get nerfed to 55%, dds becomes more efficent due the fact that it has more ko power. I'd also like to remind you that the spec restore doesn't work in pvp/bh worls and even if it did, the potting break would just give the victim time to pray and heal, thus making it useless to pot.

 

When compared to MSB, it still was the best thing to use for ranged training and pkin after the nerf. It didn't lose its reason, it just lost its ko power. However claws live from their specs, for other uses they are more or less useless. For using as a main melee weapon they are far too slow, weak and inaccurate when compared to their price, 2 hand status and level requirement. There's a reason why you don't see people training with claws but you see people pkin and randomly monster hunting with them.

[mega_vegeta6]

just because you cant afford a pair doesnt mean they have to get nerfed because people who can afford them own you with them?

I like this. I'm gonna get myself a pair of claws, then i'll never get killed by claw spec. Thanks for the tip. :thumbup: