Hawks Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I'm developing a list of programs, their pros/cons, costs, etc. for newcomers who want to get into graphic art. The only programs I have extensive experience with are Paint and GIMP, so if you use/used another program, please help by offering your opinion of those programs. When I've gathered most of the information, I'll edit up the finalized post. Also I will be adding ANY program that has anything to do with graphics (I'll add a second section for art in general) So yes, I must sadly include the awful ones as well... (so people know what they've got? any justifiable reason?) *To show the great programs from the bad, I've added a rating. So if you post about a program, rate it on a scale of five, 0 being awful, 5 being amazing.* Content:Intro/format of entriesEither a short dictionary area or Refer to Lb's Dictionary if you don't know some of these.Alphabetized list of programsActual program 'reviews' The entries will follow this format, if you have something else I should add, please tell me: Program Name:The Gallery's User Rating:Type: (Raster/Vector [for non-graphics, point of the program])Website:Cost:Newest (Stable) Version:Best for: Uses these file formats: Pros: Cons: Review: Current Graphics Program List:GIMPPaintAdobe PhotoShopAdobe PhotoShop ElementsAdobe IllustratorInkScapePaint.NETPaint Shop ProCorel Other Art Programs:ApophysisBlender 3DTerragen3D Studio MaxMayaInDesignCinema 4DVueAdobe After EffectsFinal Cut ProiMovieWindows Movie Maker Video-Editing:Sony Vegas Adobe Premire Windows Movie Maker [spoiler=The GIMP (The GNU Image Manipulation Program)]Program Name: The GIMP (The GNU Image Manipulation Program)The Gallery's User Rating:Type: RasterWebsite: http://www.gimp.orgCost: FreeNewest (Stable) Version: GIMP 2.6.7Best for: All-around Uses these file formats: .xcf (native), .psd, opens most raster graphics files (.png, .jpg, etc.), opens .svg (but not .eps) Pros:-Free-Good for beginners (since it's free and has a resemblance to PS)-Many tutorials-Easy to expand your brushes, fonts, and patterns-Newest version can also use most PS brushes -Opens most file formats-Open source, so there are many plugins and add-ons for it-Works well on PC; both Linux and Windows Cons:-May start up slowly on slower/older computers-Not designed for Mac and can only be used on OS X Review: [spoiler=Adobe Photoshop] Program Name: Adobe Photoshop, Photoshop, PSThe Gallery's User Rating:Type: RasterWebsite: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/compare/Cost: $699 USNewest (Stable) Version: Photoshop CS4Best for: All-around Uses these file formats: .psd (native), most raster graphics files, most vector graphics files. Pros:-Powerful graphics editor that works with other Adobe products-Can be purchased as a suite of programs -Industry standard-Works well on both Mac and Windows-Many tutorials-Easy to add fonts, brushes, and patterns-Has a detailed brush options dialog and more layer options than GIMP Cons:-Rather expensive Review: [spoiler=Paint]Program Name: Microsoft Paint, MSPaint, PaintThe Gallery's User Rating:Type: RasterWebsite: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/mspaint_overview.mspx?mfr=trueCost: Included with all Windows OSNewest (Stable) Version: N/ABest for: Pixels Uses these file formats: .bmp (native), .png, .jpg, gif, .tiff. Older versions may not have drop down 'Save as...' options; you must add the .xxx to the end of the file name, and may have restrictions on which file types can be opened/saved. Pros:-If you use Windows, you have it-Easy to use tools-Quick to learn-Great for traditional pixelling Cons:-Limited in your file saving options; can't adjust quality-Does not lend itself to 'serious' graphics editing Review: [spoiler=Paint.NET]Program Name: Paint.NETThe Gallery's User Rating:Type: RasterWebsite: http://www.getpaint.NETCost: FreeNewest (Stable) Version: Paint.NET v3.5.2Best for: All-around Uses these file formats: Pros: Cons:-This program only runs on newer Windows-based OS (including XP, Vista, and 7) Review: [spoiler=Blender 3D]Program Name: Blender 3DThe Gallery's User Rating: 9.5Type: 3DWebsite: http://blender.orgCost: Free/Open sourceNewest (Stable) Version: 2.49Best for: Animation, modeling, games, compositing, video editing, CAD. Uses these file formats: .blend (Also imports many different types of files, including 3d models and mocap, many different video formats, many different raster graphics formats) Pros: Free, open source program that is directly comparable in features to proprietary software such as Maya, Modo, Houdini and in many areas, 3DS Max. The interface of the unstable version as of this writing, 2.5, is incredible and extremely usable, although some people find Blender confusing at first you will find that its interface is incredibly flexible and makes all the sense in the world. The pace of development is insane, and so far the features added in each release have been quite groundbreaking with no sign of stopping. Cons: The stable interface (2.49 as of this writing) is inconsistent in many areas, and there are some big features missing from the stable version like smoke simulation, more advanced NURBS, global illumination/pathtracing/indirect lighting, advanced particle simulation such as SPH particles, good hair simulation, volumetrics, ngons, and a lot of other stuff that is being implemented in the unstable version. Review: Although the stable version lacks many features (See above), it is an excellent 3D program, the only open source graphics program I know of that is comparable to its proprietary counterparts. The interface certainly takes a different approach to what most people are used to, (Its interface is the antithesis of the GIMP) but it so happens that this approach is far better, if you ask me, than even what we normally use. It has many features that people are willing to pay a lot for, such as fluid and cloth simulation. [spoiler=Final Cut Pro]Program Name: Final Cut ProThe Gallery's User Rating: 8Type: professional video editing softwareWebsite: http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/Cost: $999.99 (Final Cut Studio)Newest (Stable) Version: Final Cut Pro 7Best for: editing short & feature length films Pros: Very popular video editing software among the media industry making it a great tool to learn if you ever want to get into the industry Cons: Expensive, Mac only Review: I use Final Cut Pro for my work editing footage to be place on the internet and for what I use it for on a daily bases I wouldn't recommend using Final Cut Pro unless your creating high quality works like a short film for a school project or something in that nature. For most your home videos you are better off using a simpler product like Final Cut Express which is about $700 cheaper or iMovie or some other inexpensive video editing software, but if you are editing or making a feature length or short film this software is for you. [spoiler=iMovie]Program Name: iMovieThe Gallery's User Rating: 9Type: basic video editing softwareWebsite: http://www.apple.com/ilife/imovie/Cost: Free with Apple computer Newest (Stable) Version: iMovie '09Best for: editing home videos & small projects Pros: simple, easy to use, free, upload directly to youtube Cons: Mac only Review: Very easy software to use, great for home videos or projects that need basic editing. All around great for simple projects. [spoiler=3D Studio Max]Program Name: 3D Studio Max:The Gallery's User Rating: 9.5Type: 3DWebsite: http://usa.autodesk.comCost: $3,900Newest (Stable) Version: 3D Studio Max 2010Best for: Modeling, animation, 3D. Uses these file formats: .mdl , .3ds , .obj Pros: Industry standard for most 3D work Cons: Interface can be daunting, although improved in 2010 [spoiler=Terragen]Program Name: TerragenThe Gallery's User Rating: 9Type: 3D (landscape)Website: www.planetside.co.ukCost: free for basic, $50 for Terragen, $500+ for Terragen 2Newest (Stable) Version: Terragen 2Best for: Landscape design Uses these file formats: .ter , .srf , .atm , .tgo , .tgd Pros: Easy to create high quality landscapes and animations, cheaper (relatively) compared to other 3D alternatives) Cons: Is very procedural based so may not always be able to get pin point perfection sig by Soa.....tip.it times.....art & mediadeviantart/flickr/last.fm/steam/twitter/tumblr/youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawks Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Reserved for proofed/final copy. sig by Soa.....tip.it times.....art & mediadeviantart/flickr/last.fm/steam/twitter/tumblr/youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Nice as this is I think your cons are flawed.I would not class can't open vectors as a con of a graphics editting program. Given that vectors are a HUGELY different graphic type to all others and that you basically need a whole separate program system to work with them very few graphic-editting programs directly deal with vector work and even in top end graphic design software the pros often favour 2 separate software pieces. 1 for image editting and 1 for vector work Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawks Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 True. I was going to remove that as Wikipedia told me it can open SVG (oddly then they're wrong or there's something up with my copy of GIMP as I can't open them) because I also had that bit under filetypes. If you have pros/cons of any graphics program I'd like to hear them, I've just been thinking of really general ones. sig by Soa.....tip.it times.....art & mediadeviantart/flickr/last.fm/steam/twitter/tumblr/youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shin Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Paint Tool Sai is an amazing program for you digital artists out there. If you're interested in an awesome program just PM and i'd be glad to send it to you. But its in Japanese, if you can bare with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat_61 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 GIMP Pros:-Free-Great for beginners - Incorrect, it has a very confusing interface for beginners.-Many tutorials - Correct, though PS has more-Easy to expand your brushes, fonts, and patterns Correct, though this is the same with PS-Opens most file formats-Open source, so there are many plugins and add-ons for it Cons:-May start up slowly on slower/older computers-Can't open vector graphics Incorrect, it can open SVGs. Paint, I would save the native is jpg, just due to the fact that that is what its "save" does... Personally I think someone with more experience should do this (Nad, Thru, other names that escape from my mind, even though they probably wouldn't want to), but... I Support TET!| If you want bunny PM Me.|Click For My DevArt^ Cowboy is the Best ^IT'S A TRAP SHINY JUST WANTS TO STALK YOU.Hell yeah I do. Whats your msn?That's how it all starts. Next he's going to ask you what flavor of candy you enjoy and whats your favorite color van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawks Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Sorry, meant that since it's free it's a good alternative to PS for beginners. Will clarify. Haven't gotten to PS pros/cons, so obviously it doesn't say anything about that. And we've addressed the fact that it does open svgs. I just haven't edited it yet. In all versions except Vista and 7, it saves as 24-bit bitmap by default. In Vista it saves as .jpg for some inane reason. In 7 it finally saves as .png by default. .bmp is sort of native to Windows so that's why that's there. sig by Soa.....tip.it times.....art & mediadeviantart/flickr/last.fm/steam/twitter/tumblr/youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaphias Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 How about adding Photoshop Elements to the list? Not sure if anyone here besides me uses it, but it's a very capable program. 8,325th to 99 Firemaking 3/9/08 | 44,811th to 99 Cooking 7/16/084,968th to 99 Farming 10/9/09 | Runescaper August 2005-March 2010Tip.it Mod Feb. 2008-Sep. 2008 | Tip.it Crew Sep. 2008-Nov. 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Program Name: 3D Studio Max:The Gallery's User Rating: 9.5Type: 3DWebsite: http://usa.autodesk.comCost: $3,900Newest (Stable) Version: 3D Studio Max 2010Best for: Modeling, animation, 3D. Uses these file formats: .mdl , .3ds , .obj Pros: Industry standard for most 3D work Cons: Interface can be daunting, although improved in 2010 Program Name: TerragenThe Gallery's User Rating: 9Type: 3D (landscape)Website: www.planetside.co.ukCost: free for basic, $50 for Terragen, $500+ for Terragen 2Newest (Stable) Version: Terragen 2Best for: Landscape design Uses these file formats: .ter , .srf , .atm , .tgo , .tgd Pros: Easy to create high quality landscapes and animations, cheaper (relatively) compared to other 3D alternatives) Cons: Is very procedural based so may not always be able to get pin point perfection Programs you have missed: MayaInDesignCinema 4DVueSony Vegas (video, but counts?)Adobe Premire (video as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawks Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 Thanks, I'll add those in. :thumbup: sig by Soa.....tip.it times.....art & mediadeviantart/flickr/last.fm/steam/twitter/tumblr/youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevepole Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Program Name: Final Cut ProThe Gallery's User Rating: 8Type: professional video editing softwareWebsite: http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/Cost: $999.99 (Final Cut Studio)Newest (Stable) Version: Final Cut Pro 7Best for: editing short & feature length films Pros: Very popular video editing software among the media industry making it a great tool to learn if you ever want to get into the industry Cons: Expensive, Mac only Review: I use Final Cut Pro for my work editing footage to be place on the internet and for what I use it for on a daily bases I wouldn't recommend using Final Cut Pro unless your creating high quality works like a short film for a school project or something in that nature. For most your home videos you are better off using a simpler product like Final Cut Express which is about $700 cheaper or iMovie or some other inexpensive video editing software, but if you are editing or making a feature length or short film this software is for you. Program Name: iMovieThe Gallery's User Rating: 9Type: basic video editing softwareWebsite: http://www.apple.com/ilife/imovie/Cost: Free with Apple computer Newest (Stable) Version: iMovie '09Best for: editing home videos & small projects Pros: simple, easy to use, free, upload directly to youtube Cons: Mac only Review: Very easy software to use, great for home videos or projects that need basic editing. All around great for simple projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawks Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Thanks! Also adding Adobe After Effects to the list by suggestion from bballer. sig by Soa.....tip.it times.....art & mediadeviantart/flickr/last.fm/steam/twitter/tumblr/youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Program Name: Blender 3DThe Gallery's User Rating: 9.5Type: 3DWebsite: http://blender.orgCost: Free/Open sourceNewest (Stable) Version: 2.49Best for: Animation, modeling, games, compositing, video editing, CAD. Uses these file formats: .blend (Also imports many different types of files, including 3d models and mocap, many different video formats, many different raster graphics formats) Pros: Free, open source program that is directly comparable in features to proprietary software such as Maya, Modo, Houdini and in many areas, 3DS Max. The interface of the unstable version as of this writing, 2.5, is incredible and extremely usable, although some people find Blender confusing at first you will find that its interface is incredibly flexible and makes all the sense in the world. The pace of development is insane, and so far the features added in each release have been quite groundbreaking with no sign of stopping. Cons: The stable interface (2.49 as of this writing) is inconsistent in many areas, and there are some big features missing from the stable version like smoke simulation, more advanced NURBS, global illumination/pathtracing/indirect lighting, advanced particle simulation such as SPH particles, good hair simulation, volumetrics, ngons, and a lot of other stuff that is being implemented in the unstable version. Review: Although the stable version lacks many features (See above), it is an excellent 3D program, the only open source graphics program I know of that is comparable to its proprietary counterparts. The interface certainly takes a different approach to what most people are used to, (Its interface is the antithesis of the GIMP) but it so happens that this approach is far better, if you ask me, than even what we normally use. It has many features that people are willing to pay a lot for, such as fluid and cloth simulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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