squidsquash Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Decided to switch over to Duradal for slayer and my first task is Waterfiends >.> I've never fought them before, so I don't know what to wear/where to go? And I have heard they can be pretty tough, would I be able to do them with my stats?Current setup is: Slayer mask Ammy of GloryAbby Whip Torags Plate Rune DefenderChaos Gauntlets (Have no gloves that do anything lol) Ring of Wealth Veracs Legs Dragon Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 No, you want MAGIC defense, so use karils. Also bring a CRUSH weapon. http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2monster_id=936 ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ylan Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Keep the slayer mask, but you might want to switch glory for stole. Also wear Blk D'hide or Karil's. A Z Spear is best, although a Godsword, Dragon Battleaxe, or d Mace can be substituted. Use fally Shield or god book over Rune Defender, cause prayer boost is fairly important, as you don't have a Nubyip. You'll be praying range. If you dont have rune+ rfd gloves, get a combat bracelet, it has nice stats. ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mischlings Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Is a whip really so horrendous here that even a dragon mace beats it? I find that kind of, well, unlikely. But anyway. Definitely want magic defence, so Karil's is the way to go. Pray ranged and bring a decent amount of prayer potions and some food. As for where to go, ancient cavern (where mithril dragons are), go right down the stairs from the whirlpool and run to the west and the little peninsula there or run all the way around to the other side of the water. There are waterfiends in both places. If you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geesch Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 The setup i use works amazingly well. I can finish a task of 150+ in 2-3 loads. I use: Slayer helm/Black maskFuryKarils top/skirtZamorakian spear (on crush) This is vital to the whole taskberserkerd bootsbarrows glovessoulwars capeeither no arrows or miths (they drop miths in 90 arrow quantities.) I always pray range and piety for the task. I take along a slayer gem, emergency teleports (house), lunar staff, 1 pure set (4), 7-8 ppots (4), crimson charm (just to guarantee an inventory space) and the rest monks. I cant quite use a bunyip yet, but if i could, it would make you last even longer. Once you pot and pray, just smack those waterfiends. With my nooby 90 str, i can hit 43's at max, and consistent 35s. You may also choose to bring a holy wrench to increase ppoints per dose of ppot. The worst thing you could do is wear melee gear down there. Not only do waterfiends hit with deadly accurate ranged shots, but they also have a mage attack. By praying mage and wearing magic resistant armour, you minimize damage. if you feel that you can last without protect prayers, feel free to try. piety is recommended to speed up the task, which is why the soulwars cape is vital. Good luck :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hitm4g3u Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Is a whip really so horrendous here that even a dragon mace beats it? I find that kind of, well, unlikely. But anyway. Since you obviously haven't been before why are you giving advice on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Is a whip really so horrendous here that even a dragon mace beats it? I find that kind of, well, unlikely. But anyway. Since you obviously haven't been before why are you giving advice on them?I've been there tons of times, and I've never used a mace or whip, so I couldn not tell which is the best. I do think, that at high attack, and on slayer task, a whip is better though. I've seen a lvl 138 with 99 slayer using a whip, and he was hitting fairly well. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hitm4g3u Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Is a whip really so horrendous here that even a dragon mace beats it? I find that kind of, well, unlikely. But anyway. Since you obviously haven't been before why are you giving advice on them?I've been there tons of times, and I've never used a mace or whip, so I couldn not tell which is the best. I do think, that at high attack, and on slayer task, a whip is better though. I've seen a lvl 138 with 99 slayer using a whip, and he was hitting fairly well. The guy who's asking is 83 attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geesch Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Waterfiends are weak to crush attacks. So perhaps a crush weapon would be appropriate. A gs or z spear are the best options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakdragon39 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but killing them under that whirlpool as opposed to in the Chaos Tunnels is much easier. It may be a little more inconvenient to get to, but it is not multi-combat. Because of this you save a LOT of prayer and food, and can stay MUCH longer for a trip. I've never tried using a mace or b axe, but Zamorakian Spear is much more effective. DEFINITELY use a crush weapon if you can, a whip will only waste time and resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mischlings Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Is a whip really so horrendous here that even a dragon mace beats it? I find that kind of, well, unlikely. But anyway. Since you obviously haven't been before why are you giving advice on them? I have been there and killed thousands of waterfiends -- the only experience I am lacking is not testing whip against dragon mace there. I know they have a high defence against anything that's not crush, I'm just not so sure that even a dragon mace is better than a whip there. Now, if you will please remove your head from your [wagon] on these forums, can we get on with the rest of the topic? If you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezkaton Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 These people seem to have it covered. 1. If you can set up the fairy ring do so. Save loads of time banking etc. Without it I wouldn't bother with the task. 2. setup (some items go from best to worst):Slayer helmFury/GloryKaril top/Black DhideKaril Skirt/Black DhideBarrows Gloves/highest RFD gloves you haveSW Cape/Ardy Cape 3/Trimmed SkillCape/Fire Cape (forgotten your stats but I'm sure you don't have the trimmed skill cape)DBoots.Ring is up to you, but I'd use a life. But Zerker would be good. Weapon: ZS/SS/GS/Any Barrow with a crush weapon - Torag and Verac are the 2 that come to mind/D Battle Axe/D Mace 3. Invo:Sup Att (4)Sup Str (4)Home TabsLunar/Dramen StaffHoly Wrench8 Prayer PotsMaybe a slayer gem.4 monkfish.Bunyip and scrolls (not sure if you can get it as I've forgotten stats). If you can't use yip then fill your invo with food. 4. Pray range when you're against them as Karils/dhide is there to absorb the mage damage. I dislike this task as there is a fair bit of banking, but they're good for crims. Make sure you do put the fairy ring in because otherwise IMO they're really not worth it. Reacting impulsively and saying what's on your mind feels oh so good.. for a little, until you realize you just started WWIII.2672nd person to reach 2496 total.Thanks to Wicked for the awesome siggy :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Is a whip really so horrendous here that even a dragon mace beats it? I find that kind of, well, unlikely. But anyway. Since you obviously haven't been before why are you giving advice on them? I have been there and killed thousands of waterfiends -- the only experience I am lacking is not testing whip against dragon mace there. I know they have a high defence against anything that's not crush, I'm just not so sure that even a dragon mace is better than a whip there. Now, if you will please remove your head from your [wagon] on these forums, can we get on with the rest of the topic? You will almost never hit with a whip, there. If you'Re not using crush attacks, I'm not even sure you could hit them. And that's based of the great number of times when I forgot to change my whip for a ss while geting down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infi Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Is a whip really so horrendous here that even a dragon mace beats it? I find that kind of, well, unlikely. But anyway. Since you obviously haven't been before why are you giving advice on them? I have been there and killed thousands of waterfiends -- the only experience I am lacking is not testing whip against dragon mace there. I know they have a high defence against anything that's not crush, I'm just not so sure that even a dragon mace is better than a whip there. Now, if you will please remove your head from your [wagon] on these forums, can we get on with the rest of the topic? You will almost never hit with a whip, there. If you'Re not using crush attacks, I'm not even sure you could hit them. And that's based of the great number of times when I forgot to change my whip for a ss while geting down there. And that's based on the fact that you have awful melees, so don't assume that you can't hit with them at all using a whip. 99 Hits, Attack, Strength, Defence, Mage, Summoning, Slayer, Ranged, 96/99 Prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12pure34 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 If you have the possibility to use an EE (enhanced excalibur) do so. As for the crush discussion. With a slayer mask on a slayer task, the accuracy bonus helps immensely. Yet, I was killing them even slightly faster with my Z spear, then the guy with the attack cape with his whip. On very high attack 95+ and on slayer task, they can be whipped. For anything lower ;) Z spear / godsword.. or any crush weapon. If you can't buy them, lend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 And that's based on the fact that you have awful melees, so don't assume that you can't hit with them at all using a whip.Based on the fact that the op has 83 attack, I would assume he would hit way more whit a crushing weapon opposed to a whip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Is a whip really so horrendous here that even a dragon mace beats it? I find that kind of, well, unlikely. But anyway. Since you obviously haven't been before why are you giving advice on them? I have been there and killed thousands of waterfiends -- the only experience I am lacking is not testing whip against dragon mace there. I know they have a high defence against anything that's not crush, I'm just not so sure that even a dragon mace is better than a whip there. Now, if you will please remove your head from your [wagon] on these forums, can we get on with the rest of the topic? In the past, I've used Verac's Flail and Whip before. I can confidently say that the whip is FAR better than the flail. Of course, since the flail is better than d mace, the whip is in turn better than the d mace. However, in all honesty you should use the obby mace + zerker necklace if you aren't going to use a GS, SS or ZS. It's the next best option. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infi Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 And that's based on the fact that you have awful melees, so don't assume that you can't hit with them at all using a whip.Based on the fact that the op has 83 attack, I would assume he would hit way more whit a crushing weapon opposed to a whip. Based on the fact that I wasn't even referring to the author, it'd be nice if you could actually read the whole situation before trying to correct me 99 Hits, Attack, Strength, Defence, Mage, Summoning, Slayer, Ranged, 96/99 Prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Is a whip really so horrendous here that even a dragon mace beats it? I find that kind of, well, unlikely. But anyway. Since you obviously haven't been before why are you giving advice on them? I have been there and killed thousands of waterfiends -- the only experience I am lacking is not testing whip against dragon mace there. I know they have a high defence against anything that's not crush, I'm just not so sure that even a dragon mace is better than a whip there. Now, if you will please remove your head from your [wagon] on these forums, can we get on with the rest of the topic? You will almost never hit with a whip, there. If you'Re not using crush attacks, I'm not even sure you could hit them.And that's based of the great number of times when I forgot to change my whip for a ss while geting down there. And that's based on the fact that you have awful melees, so don't assume that you can't hit with them at all using a whip. My mellees being almost the same as the OP's, I guess that's pretty relevant. The "I'm not even sure" means that, well, I was not sure. And maybe try to be a bit more polite, next time.... It's the internet, you don't have anything to prove to anyone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordkafei Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Is a whip really so horrendous here that even a dragon mace beats it? I find that kind of, well, unlikely. But anyway. Definitely want magic defence, so Karil's is the way to go. Pray ranged and bring a decent amount of prayer potions and some food. As for where to go, ancient cavern (where mithril dragons are), go right down the stairs from the whirlpool and run to the west and the little peninsula there or run all the way around to the other side of the water. There are waterfiends in both places. The whip is servicable, if your stats are high enough. But the D-mace has that tasty prayer boost going for it. PvP is not for meIn the 3rd Year of the BoycottReal-world money saved since FT/W: Hundreds of DollarsReal-world time saved since FT/W: Thousands of Hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 And that's based on the fact that you have awful melees, so don't assume that you can't hit with them at all using a whip.Based on the fact that the op has 83 attack, I would assume he would hit way more whit a crushing weapon opposed to a whip. Based on the fact that I wasn't even referring to the author, it'd be nice if you could actually read the whole situation before trying to correct meSo the situation you're referring to is that you can hit waterfiends with a whip at higher levels? Fine by me. But the actual situation here is a guy with 83 attack thinking about using a whip, which would be very inaccurate compared to a crush weapon. At least how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infi Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 And that's based on the fact that you have awful melees, so don't assume that you can't hit with them at all using a whip.Based on the fact that the op has 83 attack, I would assume he would hit way more whit a crushing weapon opposed to a whip. Based on the fact that I wasn't even referring to the author, it'd be nice if you could actually read the whole situation before trying to correct meSo the situation you're referring to is that you can hit waterfiends with a whip at higher levels? Fine by me. But the actual situation here is a guy with 83 attack thinking about using a whip, which would be very inaccurate compared to a crush weapon. At least how I see it. You all need to get better reading comprehension skills, I never once told OP to go whip waterfiends. I was simply correcting another person who thought that it was impossible to hit waterfiends with a whip. 99 Hits, Attack, Strength, Defence, Mage, Summoning, Slayer, Ranged, 96/99 Prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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