Cheap Herblore exp

[Ezkaton]

I'm just wondering what the cheapest way to get herblore exp is. I would preferably like it do it without affecting any general profits; as in, can I still profit if I make from stuff like slayer; however I would say that I'd be willing to do things like put my MTK herbs, my slayer herbs and any herbs I farm into this to get it up primarily to 70 to round off the stat nicely, but if push came to shove I would really like 85.

 

Also what would the rough cost of 85 from a level of say 60 cost? And is it *really* worth it? Or do people glorify things like extremes too much?

 

So what I'm asking is basically can I use herbs from Slayer, MTK and farming and still profit in the end? Or will I make a loss?

 

And then again, I'm wondering what exactly is the cheapest herby exp...... I would love quickish levels, and I generally (before the exp weekend) put my herbs into pots anyways making slayer a pretty self sustaining skill never having to worry about super attacks, super strengths and prayers........

 

Any ideas? :D

[ghjkl]

CLeaning them is cheapest. Just look at ge prices.

[Ezkaton]

CLeaning them is cheapest. Just look at ge prices.

 

Yes, but it is click intensive with a lot of work for little gain. I probably wouldn't mind it at these levels, but by the time I reach 70 I dare say I'll want to rip someones face off....... I may stretch my patience to 75.

[My_Eggs]

CLeaning them is cheapest. Just look at ge prices.

 

 

Only problem is clean herbs aren't even selling for minimum on the G.E. right now... I'm kinda stuck with 1k kwuarms.

[ghjkl]

Try serums or energy restores after prices settle.

[Codguy]

Of potions, Serums are the cheapest, but very slow experience. It might be better in the long run if you use something that's more expensive, such as Super Energy Potions, but faster experience. It all depends at what you're willing to spend and what you value your time at in terms of making money. If you make a lot of money in an hour, doing something more expensive is the better thing to do, because it saves you more time, in which you can then go and make that money back. But either way, I use this in order to figure out gp/xp for Herblore:

 

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Calculators/Potions

[Ezkaton]

What about the whole:

 

"So what I'm asking is basically can I use herbs from Slayer, MTK and farming and still profit in the end?"

 

Is it possible?

[JoeDaStudd]

As long as the cost of the second isn't more then the resulting potion you'll profit.

Right now everything is bottom side up. It will be a few weeks before prices settle down.

[Codguy]

If you collect all the herbs yourself, and buy the seconds, you should profit a bit. Some potions will make you lose money, some will give lots of profit. But overall, more give profit than a loss.

[bedman]

Of course you won't profit. Collecting the herbs from slayer and MTK doesn't change a single thing. You still could have sold them in stead of making potions from them, and make much more money. (but yeah, in your strange view of profit, you will profit since most of the time, your pot will be worth more than your secondary ingredient and you see it as you got your herbs for free so you keep them out of you calculation).

 

That's why it is the smartest to sell all herbs you get from slayer and MTK and with that money, buy the potion with the cheapest gp/xp (keeping in mind you still want to train with a decent rate, so I wouldn't do things like serum etc...). To check the gp/xp, just go to rune wiki calcs. However, as people have said, right now the whole market is messed up because of the xp weekend, so I'd wait a while.

 

And to answer wether it's worth it: Not sure. I do know I'm killing irons at least twice as fast as I used to do, but the Z spear isnt the only factor, since I also have overloads and turmoil, which I didnt have before.

[Ezkaton]

Of course you won't profit. Collecting the herbs from slayer and MTK doesn't change a single thing. You still could have sold them in stead of making potions from them, and make much more money. (but yeah, in your strange view of profit, you will profit since most of the time, your pot will be worth more than your secondary ingredient and you see it as you got your herbs for free so you keep them out of you calculation).

 

That's why it is the smartest to sell all herbs you get from slayer and MTK and with that money, buy the potion with the cheapest gp/xp (keeping in mind you still want to train with a decent rate, so I wouldn't do things like serum etc...). To check the gp/xp, just go to rune wiki calcs. However, as people have said, right now the whole market is messed up because of the xp weekend, so I'd wait a while.

 

And to answer wether it's worth it: Not sure. I do know I'm killing irons at least twice as fast as I used to do, but the Z spear isnt the only factor, since I also have overloads and turmoil, which I didnt have before.

 

My strange view of the profit is coming from opportunity cost I guess. As in if I sold them how much exp could I have got instead? I kinda really need my herby up for WGS atleast. Even if I get it to 64 it's better than nothing. And really only 8 levels. Though I'd be looking on getting 70 to round off that skill.

 

And yeah I know the markets messed up :) to be expected really...... good thing = cheap pots, bad thing = unstable market. But yea..... I have been looking at stuff with the cheapest exp/gp, which is the Energy or Super energy pot? However I still have about 30 of them whacked on the GE from 3 weeks ago when I last did use my slayer and MTK herbs for herby.

 

And.... hmm... interesting point. What would be your opinions on *JUST* extreme pots?

 

 

But yea guys, I'll keep an eye on the market and do it the way that if the 2nd is less than the pot in question it's a good idea to make. Also I can never have enough super attacks and strengths and prayer atm :) s'all good I guess.

[aspeeder]

Of course you won't profit. Collecting the herbs from slayer and MTK doesn't change a single thing. You still could have sold them in stead of making potions from them, and make much more money. (but yeah, in your strange view of profit, you will profit since most of the time, your pot will be worth more than your secondary ingredient and you see it as you got your herbs for free so you keep them out of you calculation).

 

That's why it is the smartest to sell all herbs you get from slayer and MTK and with that money, buy the potion with the cheapest gp/xp (keeping in mind you still want to train with a decent rate, so I wouldn't do things like serum etc...). To check the gp/xp, just go to rune wiki calcs. However, as people have said, right now the whole market is messed up because of the xp weekend, so I'd wait a while.

 

And to answer wether it's worth it: Not sure. I do know I'm killing irons at least twice as fast as I used to do, but the Z spear isnt the only factor, since I also have overloads and turmoil, which I didnt have before.

There's two kinds of profit, economic and accounting, you're talking about economic profit and he's talking about accounting profit.

 

But he's right, since the "cheapest" ways usually incur some kind of loss in time, whether that be slow exp or a hard time selling/getting rid of the potions you make. At any rate you should wait a while before considering training herblore since the market is so flooded with potions atm.

[The_Fray]

Of course you won't profit. Collecting the herbs from slayer and MTK doesn't change a single thing. You still could have sold them in stead of making potions from them, and make much more money. (but yeah, in your strange view of profit, you will profit since most of the time, your pot will be worth more than your secondary ingredient and you see it as you got your herbs for free so you keep them out of you calculation).

 

That's why it is the smartest to sell all herbs you get from slayer and MTK and with that money, buy the potion with the cheapest gp/xp (keeping in mind you still want to train with a decent rate, so I wouldn't do things like serum etc...). To check the gp/xp, just go to rune wiki calcs. However, as people have said, right now the whole market is messed up because of the xp weekend, so I'd wait a while.

 

And to answer wether it's worth it: Not sure. I do know I'm killing irons at least twice as fast as I used to do, but the Z spear isnt the only factor, since I also have overloads and turmoil, which I didnt have before.

The one good thing about keeping your herbs from farming/slayer/mtk is that you can keep the potions for yourself and use them at later levels. Sure I will be losing money from this but I am not one to keep track of GE prices since they are always changing everyday and you can never be sure if your finished product will sell. I would rather just keep my own potions and make extremes at higher levels.

[bedman]

In any case, you are better off selling your herbs, and buying ingredients for the potion which is the best at that time (reasonable gp/xp while being fast), than using all your gathered herbs yourself on a whole mixture of pots of which half is unefficient and expensive xp.

 

My view on extreme pots: Together with antifires, they are a very good reason to get 85 + herblore. It's danm expensive, but it's worth it much more than, say, construction or smithing. I would say however, that getting 95 prayer is worth it more though.

[Ezkaton]

Brilliant, thanks people :) It seems that I'll just wait a couple of months or so then. Also i'll probably change my MTK back to trees and fish instead.

 

Also then, going a little off topic..... When would you say is the best idea to buy my pots for slayer? I'm pretty sure we're no where near the bottom of the market yet; but where do you think they'll stop?

 

 

 

 

(oh and bedman, smithing is amazing, don't diss ;) heh)

[bedman]

Brilliant, thanks people :) It seems that I'll just wait a couple of months or so then. Also i'll probably change my MTK back to trees and fish instead.

 

Also then, going a little off topic..... When would you say is the best idea to buy my pots for slayer? I'm pretty sure we're no where near the bottom of the market yet; but where do you think they'll stop?

 

 

 

 

(oh and bedman, smithing is amazing, don't diss ;) heh)

Keep your MTK on herbs and fish, they still are, and will stay the best money. No idea for the pots. Just look at the price pre-weekend, that's where it should go back to, but it might take a few ups and downs.

[Jadinko]

Don't be knocking serums. Yes, they may be slow compared to the more costly potions, but they can still scrape 150k/hour.

 

They are also now buyable on the ge at the normal price schema.