Abortion

[Romy]

And the sad truth is that many suicides fail. 1 million people succesfully commit suicide in a year, while about 20 to even 30 million people fail at commiting suicide (worldwide). Thing is, most of the people that fail at committing suicide will have some kind of handicap after. This just ends up making it harder for both the victim and those that need to take care of the victim, so like taking drugs, it'll influence other people too.

 

That's not the reason suiciding is illegal though...

 

Probably not. But I was demonstrating how suicide isn't just something you do to your own body, it goes further than that.

 

I still find drug-consumption, suiciding, and abortion as acts that should be perfectly legal.

[1230abcz]

And the sad truth is that many suicides fail. 1 million people succesfully commit suicide in a year, while about 20 to even 30 million people fail at commiting suicide (worldwide). Thing is, most of the people that fail at committing suicide will have some kind of handicap after. This just ends up making it harder for both the victim and those that need to take care of the victim, so like taking drugs, it'll influence other people too.

 

That's not the reason suiciding is illegal though...

 

Probably not. But I was demonstrating how suicide isn't just something you do to your own body, it goes further than that.

 

I still find drug-consumption, suiciding, and abortion as acts that should be perfectly legal.

 

 

Now that I know you're hot... I don't know how to respond to you... ... Go make me a sammich.

 

Heh

 

 

There's an obvious reason why drugs aren't legal (suicide is legal, btw). The government is in place to protect the well being of the people, and, as I'm sure you know, drugs aren't exactly good. If drugs weren't illegal (Pot excluded, as it's not very harmful), you'd see the same thing going on with Cocaine as it is with Cigarettes. Little kids would be lured in my advertising to do Cocaine and Meth, and, instead of getting addicted for 40+ years, they'd be addicted for like 5. If a 30-year-old can do Cocaine, there's no logical way to stop said 30-year-old to sell his drugs to a middle schooler for a couple bucks.

 

 

I do agree that abortion should still be legal, though. I still think of it as an economic thing as opposed to a moral thing because there're conflicting ethical issues on each side, both of which I half-heartedly support. I posted some stuff a page back on my ideas.

[Aliath]

And the sad truth is that many suicides fail. 1 million people succesfully commit suicide in a year, while about 20 to even 30 million people fail at commiting suicide (worldwide). Thing is, most of the people that fail at committing suicide will have some kind of handicap after. This just ends up making it harder for both the victim and those that need to take care of the victim, so like taking drugs, it'll influence other people too.

 

That's not the reason suiciding is illegal though...

 

Probably not. But I was demonstrating how suicide isn't just something you do to your own body, it goes further than that.

 

I still find drug-consumption, suiciding, and abortion as acts that should be perfectly legal.

 

I agree with the two latter. If you attempt to commit suicide, you shouldn't be prosecuted. And providing safe, legal abortions is a good way to prevent unsafe ones. But if you legalize drug consumption, companies will try to profit from it and sell drugs, thus hooking more people.

[qeltar]

But if you legalize drug consumption, companies will try to profit from it and sell drugs, thus hooking more people.

Don't care. That's the price of a free society.

 

Prohibition doesn't work. It didn't work with alcohol, and it doesn't work with illegal drugs.

 

And it's not like Big Pharma isn't finding ways to hook millions on legal drugs anyway.

[Romy]

And the sad truth is that many suicides fail. 1 million people succesfully commit suicide in a year, while about 20 to even 30 million people fail at commiting suicide (worldwide). Thing is, most of the people that fail at committing suicide will have some kind of handicap after. This just ends up making it harder for both the victim and those that need to take care of the victim, so like taking drugs, it'll influence other people too.

 

That's not the reason suiciding is illegal though...

 

Probably not. But I was demonstrating how suicide isn't just something you do to your own body, it goes further than that.

 

I still find drug-consumption, suiciding, and abortion as acts that should be perfectly legal.

 

 

Now that I know you're hot... I don't know how to respond to you... ... Go make me a sammich.

 

Heh

 

 

There's an obvious reason why drugs aren't legal (suicide is legal, btw). The government is in place to protect the well being of the people, and, as I'm sure you know, drugs aren't exactly good. If drugs weren't illegal (Pot excluded, as it's not very harmful), you'd see the same thing going on with Cocaine as it is with Cigarettes. Little kids would be lured in my advertising to do Cocaine and Meth, and, instead of getting addicted for 40+ years, they'd be addicted for like 5. If a 30-year-old can do Cocaine, there's no logical way to stop said 30-year-old to sell his drugs to a middle schooler for a couple bucks.

 

 

I do agree that abortion should still be legal, though. I still think of it as an economic thing as opposed to a moral thing because there're conflicting ethical issues on each side, both of which I half-heartedly support. I posted some stuff a page back on my ideas.

 

In most countries, suiciding is illegal. If the authorities suspect you're about to commit suicide, you will more than likely be hospitalized by force.

Ofcourse, in most cases they're way too late... which could possibly explain why many don't know suiciding is illegal. That, and the fact that no one would sue or imprison anyone else if they had suicided, and if they were caught beforehand, they'd be hospitalized, not imprisoned.

 

As for drugs. Why not? It's my body, and as a person in a free society, I'm deserving the right to decide for myself.

[Aliath]

But if you legalize drug consumption, companies will try to profit from it and sell drugs, thus hooking more people.

Don't care. That's the price of a free society.

 

Prohibition doesn't work. It didn't work with alcohol, and it doesn't work with illegal drugs.

 

And it's not like Big Pharma isn't finding ways to hook millions on legal drugs anyway.

 

There's a reason more kids smoke cigarettes, here in Québec, than they do drugs. Ease of access.

 

Sorry. We're straying off-topic. xD

[1230abcz]

And the sad truth is that many suicides fail. 1 million people succesfully commit suicide in a year, while about 20 to even 30 million people fail at commiting suicide (worldwide). Thing is, most of the people that fail at committing suicide will have some kind of handicap after. This just ends up making it harder for both the victim and those that need to take care of the victim, so like taking drugs, it'll influence other people too.

 

That's not the reason suiciding is illegal though...

 

Probably not. But I was demonstrating how suicide isn't just something you do to your own body, it goes further than that.

 

I still find drug-consumption, suiciding, and abortion as acts that should be perfectly legal.

 

 

Now that I know you're hot... I don't know how to respond to you... ... Go make me a sammich.

 

Heh

 

 

There's an obvious reason why drugs aren't legal (suicide is legal, btw). The government is in place to protect the well being of the people, and, as I'm sure you know, drugs aren't exactly good. If drugs weren't illegal (Pot excluded, as it's not very harmful), you'd see the same thing going on with Cocaine as it is with Cigarettes. Little kids would be lured in my advertising to do Cocaine and Meth, and, instead of getting addicted for 40+ years, they'd be addicted for like 5. If a 30-year-old can do Cocaine, there's no logical way to stop said 30-year-old to sell his drugs to a middle schooler for a couple bucks.

 

 

I do agree that abortion should still be legal, though. I still think of it as an economic thing as opposed to a moral thing because there're conflicting ethical issues on each side, both of which I half-heartedly support. I posted some stuff a page back on my ideas.

 

In most countries, suiciding is illegal. If the authorities suspect you're about to commit suicide, you will more than likely be hospitalized by force.

Ofcourse, in most cases they're way too late... which could possibly explain why many don't know suiciding is illegal. That, and the fact that no one would sue or imprison anyone else if they had suicided, and if they were caught beforehand, they'd be hospitalized, not imprisoned.

 

As for drugs. Why not? It's my body, and as a person in a free society, I'm deserving the right to decide for myself.

 

 

Suicide used to be illegal in the US, but it was repealed a few decades ago. I think there's like two states left that still haven't made a decision, but it's accepted that it's still legal.

 

As for the drugs thing, sure, it's your body, but, in a capitalistic society, people will take advantage of the fact that they can get kids hooked on extremely fatal drugs, so there are bigger consequences to that decision.

 

@Qeltar: Prohibition increased crimes, didn't work, and was overall a bad idea, I'll agree, but the drugs that are illegal (Marijuana excluded) are illegal for a reason. They might be major contributors to crime, but if they weren't, kids would be lured in by people and/or companies to buy those drugs, thus getting hooked. I don't agree that we can afford to pay such a price for a free society.

 

Also, Pharmaceutical companies happen to be safe. I wont argue with you on your comment against them (Links for proof?), but it's not like they're giving out free Meth to little kids across the streets.

[Skeptical]

And the sad truth is that many suicides fail. 1 million people succesfully commit suicide in a year, while about 20 to even 30 million people fail at commiting suicide (worldwide). Thing is, most of the people that fail at committing suicide will have some kind of handicap after. This just ends up making it harder for both the victim and those that need to take care of the victim, so like taking drugs, it'll influence other people too.

 

That's not the reason suiciding is illegal though...

 

Probably not. But I was demonstrating how suicide isn't just something you do to your own body, it goes further than that.

 

I still find drug-consumption, suiciding, and abortion as acts that should be perfectly legal.

 

 

Now that I know you're hot... I don't know how to respond to you... ... Go make me a sammich.

 

Heh

 

 

There's an obvious reason why drugs aren't legal (suicide is legal, btw). The government is in place to protect the well being of the people, and, as I'm sure you know, drugs aren't exactly good. If drugs weren't illegal (Pot excluded, as it's not very harmful), you'd see the same thing going on with Cocaine as it is with Cigarettes. Little kids would be lured in my advertising to do Cocaine and Meth, and, instead of getting addicted for 40+ years, they'd be addicted for like 5. If a 30-year-old can do Cocaine, there's no logical way to stop said 30-year-old to sell his drugs to a middle schooler for a couple bucks.

 

 

I do agree that abortion should still be legal, though. I still think of it as an economic thing as opposed to a moral thing because there're conflicting ethical issues on each side, both of which I half-heartedly support. I posted some stuff a page back on my ideas.

 

In most countries, suiciding is illegal. If the authorities suspect you're about to commit suicide, you will more than likely be hospitalized by force.

Ofcourse, in most cases they're way too late... which could possibly explain why many don't know suiciding is illegal. That, and the fact that no one would sue or imprison anyone else if they had suicided, and if they were caught beforehand, they'd be hospitalized, not imprisoned.

 

As for drugs. Why not? It's my body, and as a person in a free society, I'm deserving the right to decide for myself.

 

 

Suicide used to be illegal in the US, but it was repealed a few decades ago. I think there's like two states left that still haven't made a decision, but it's accepted that it's still legal.

 

As for the drugs thing, sure, it's your body, but, in a capitalistic society, people will take advantage of the fact that they can get kids hooked on extremely fatal drugs, so there are bigger consequences to that decision.

 

@Qeltar: Prohibition increased crimes, didn't work, and was overall a bad idea, I'll agree, but the drugs that are illegal (Marijuana excluded) are illegal for a reason. They might be major contributors to crime, but if they weren't, kids would be lured in by people and/or companies to buy those drugs, thus getting hooked. I don't agree that we can afford to pay such a price for a free society.

 

Also, Pharmaceutical companies happen to be safe. I wont argue with you on your comment against them (Links for proof?), but it's not like they're giving out free Meth to little kids across the streets.

 

Pharmaceutical companies are safe. :-o

 

Except for all of the drugs that are now fed to people that don't have a health issue: just look at depression, ADD/ADHD, "leaky bladder", mood-stabilizers....

[Romy]

That's the point of a free society, being able to completely own your own body. Suiciding may be legal in the US, but in most other countries (as far as I know) it's illegal to commit suicide.

 

 

Drugs may (or probably) will be something anyone with decent funding would go for if it was legal, but there's nothing you can do about it. If you're going to stick to the democratic values, drugs shouldn't be illegal.

[Distracted]

That's the point of a free society, being able to completely own your own body. Suiciding may be legal in the US, but in most other countries (as far as I know) it's illegal to commit suicide.

 

 

Drugs may (or probably) will be something anyone with decent funding would go for if it was legal, but there's nothing you can do about it. If you're going to stick to the democratic values, drugs shouldn't be illegal.

 

I don't get why you would want all drugs to be legalized. Laws aren't there so can annoy you, laws are here to maintain order. If people were to take drugs (hard drugs, that is), problems would arise. Addicted people are a risk to a society, they'll get aggressive if they don't get their next fix, they'll commit crimes to be able to fund their addiction. It goes much further than just harming your own body.

[Alg]

That's the point of a free society, being able to completely own your own body. Suiciding may be legal in the US, but in most other countries (as far as I know) it's illegal to commit suicide.

 

 

Drugs may (or probably) will be something anyone with decent funding would go for if it was legal, but there's nothing you can do about it. If you're going to stick to the democratic values, drugs shouldn't be illegal.

 

I don't get why you would want all drugs to be legalized. Laws aren't there so can annoy you, laws are here to maintain order. If people were to take drugs (hard drugs, that is), problems would arise. Addicted people are a risk to a society, they'll get aggressive if they don't get their next fix, they'll commit crimes to be able to fund their addiction. It goes much further than just harming your own body.

It could be argued that many of the problems are there because the government is just pretending that it isn't happening. And that a big part of the appeal is that they're illegal anyway; people want what they can't have.

 

I've always wondered how you can make suicide illegal. I mean, there's not much you can do if they succeed, and if they fail why make their lives worse by arresting/punishing them? Do they want to encourage people to succeed?

[qeltar]

@Qeltar: Prohibition increased crimes, didn't work, and was overall a bad idea, I'll agree, but the drugs that are illegal (Marijuana excluded) are illegal for a reason. They might be major contributors to crime, but if they weren't, kids would be lured in by people and/or companies to buy those drugs, thus getting hooked. I don't agree that we can afford to pay such a price for a free society.

You admit that prohibition increased crime, but can't see that the War on Certain Drugs does exactly the same? How odd.

 

Kids who are going to get lured in, get lured in, regardless of legality or not. Some are *more* likely to use drugs *because* they are illegal.

 

I am not suggesting minors should be able to get drugs, by the way -- I'm talking about adults.

 

As for illegality of suicide, it is entirely based on religious kookery and control-freakism -- there is no other reason for it.

[Romy]

That's the point of a free society, being able to completely own your own body. Suiciding may be legal in the US, but in most other countries (as far as I know) it's illegal to commit suicide.

 

 

Drugs may (or probably) will be something anyone with decent funding would go for if it was legal, but there's nothing you can do about it. If you're going to stick to the democratic values, drugs shouldn't be illegal.

 

I don't get why you would want all drugs to be legalized. Laws aren't there so can annoy you, laws are here to maintain order. If people were to take drugs (hard drugs, that is), problems would arise. Addicted people are a risk to a society, they'll get aggressive if they don't get their next fix, they'll commit crimes to be able to fund their addiction. It goes much further than just harming your own body.

It could be argued that many of the problems are there because the government is just pretending that it isn't happening. And that a big part of the appeal is that they're illegal anyway; people want what they can't have.

 

I've always wondered how you can make suicide illegal. I mean, there's not much you can do if they succeed, and if they fail why make their lives worse by arresting/punishing them? Do they want to encourage people to succeed?

 

Naw, nothing like that. If they fail / the authorities suspect they're going to commit suicide, then they're usually hospitalaized by force. Some go to a nut house, some are released for supervision.

 

By being illegal, it means the authorities have the right to partially ignore human rights, is all.

 

 

 

It's still absurd that it's illegal though...

[Romy]

That's the point of a free society, being able to completely own your own body. Suiciding may be legal in the US, but in most other countries (as far as I know) it's illegal to commit suicide.

 

 

Drugs may (or probably) will be something anyone with decent funding would go for if it was legal, but there's nothing you can do about it. If you're going to stick to the democratic values, drugs shouldn't be illegal.

 

I don't get why you would want all drugs to be legalized. Laws aren't there so can annoy you, laws are here to maintain order. If people were to take drugs (hard drugs, that is), problems would arise. Addicted people are a risk to a society, they'll get aggressive if they don't get their next fix, they'll commit crimes to be able to fund their addiction. It goes much further than just harming your own body.

 

Because I find it very wrong that these drugs are illegal in democratic countries, even if they're very harmful. Are human beings smart enough to make up an opinion and vote for who they think is fitting, but not smart enough to decide what's best for them?

 

 

I think that if drugs are illegal, some sort of politics test should be a must for anyone who wants to vote. You don't pass, you don't vote, simple as that.

[Distracted]

That's the point of a free society, being able to completely own your own body. Suiciding may be legal in the US, but in most other countries (as far as I know) it's illegal to commit suicide.

 

 

Drugs may (or probably) will be something anyone with decent funding would go for if it was legal, but there's nothing you can do about it. If you're going to stick to the democratic values, drugs shouldn't be illegal.

 

I don't get why you would want all drugs to be legalized. Laws aren't there so can annoy you, laws are here to maintain order. If people were to take drugs (hard drugs, that is), problems would arise. Addicted people are a risk to a society, they'll get aggressive if they don't get their next fix, they'll commit crimes to be able to fund their addiction. It goes much further than just harming your own body.

 

Because I find it very wrong that these drugs are illegal in democratic countries, even if they're very harmful. Are human beings smart enough to make up an opinion and vote for who they think is fitting, but not smart enough to decide what's best for them?

 

 

Yes. Or else we wouldn't have any problems with drugs right now. Are you claiming that if drugs were legal, we wouldn't have any addict that would be a threat to his surroundings? It's not because you know better that everyone does.

[Romy]

That's the point of a free society, being able to completely own your own body. Suiciding may be legal in the US, but in most other countries (as far as I know) it's illegal to commit suicide.

 

 

Drugs may (or probably) will be something anyone with decent funding would go for if it was legal, but there's nothing you can do about it. If you're going to stick to the democratic values, drugs shouldn't be illegal.

 

I don't get why you would want all drugs to be legalized. Laws aren't there so can annoy you, laws are here to maintain order. If people were to take drugs (hard drugs, that is), problems would arise. Addicted people are a risk to a society, they'll get aggressive if they don't get their next fix, they'll commit crimes to be able to fund their addiction. It goes much further than just harming your own body.

 

Because I find it very wrong that these drugs are illegal in democratic countries, even if they're very harmful. Are human beings smart enough to make up an opinion and vote for who they think is fitting, but not smart enough to decide what's best for them?

 

 

Yes. Or else we wouldn't have any problems with drugs right now. Are you claiming that if drugs were legal, we wouldn't have any addict that would be a threat to his surroundings? It's not because you know better that everyone does.

 

Actually, the point I was trying to get across is that no, they're not smart enough to vote. Many people vote without actually knowing much, if at all, about the parties participating, their agenda etc. If, despite that, people have the right to vote, then people should have the right to decide whether or not to consume drugs, despite the risks/problems/etc.

[Distracted]

That's the point of a free society, being able to completely own your own body. Suiciding may be legal in the US, but in most other countries (as far as I know) it's illegal to commit suicide.

 

 

Drugs may (or probably) will be something anyone with decent funding would go for if it was legal, but there's nothing you can do about it. If you're going to stick to the democratic values, drugs shouldn't be illegal.

 

I don't get why you would want all drugs to be legalized. Laws aren't there so can annoy you, laws are here to maintain order. If people were to take drugs (hard drugs, that is), problems would arise. Addicted people are a risk to a society, they'll get aggressive if they don't get their next fix, they'll commit crimes to be able to fund their addiction. It goes much further than just harming your own body.

 

Because I find it very wrong that these drugs are illegal in democratic countries, even if they're very harmful. Are human beings smart enough to make up an opinion and vote for who they think is fitting, but not smart enough to decide what's best for them?

 

 

Yes. Or else we wouldn't have any problems with drugs right now. Are you claiming that if drugs were legal, we wouldn't have any addict that would be a threat to his surroundings? It's not because you know better that everyone does.

 

Actually, the point I was trying to get across is that no, they're not smart enough to vote. Many people vote without actually knowing much, if at all, about the parties participating, their agenda etc. If, despite that, people have the right to vote, then people should have the right to decide whether or not to consume drugs, despite the risks/problems/etc.

 

Those are two completely different things. People usually vote after finding out a thing or two on the candidates, and if they didn't know anything they wouldn't bother to vote (at least, not in the US where you choose whether you want to vote).

 

Look, we both know both of us will just stay with our point, so let's just agree to disagree, because we've gone extremely off-topic.

[Romy]

Yes, let's agree to disagree.

 

 

To cover for the amazing off-topicness, umm...

 

 

 

What do you guys think about the philosopihcal side of abortion?

[blakdragon39]

My parents were using condoms and my mother was on the pill.

 

With all due respect I'm surprised you aren't messed up. Most condoms have spermicide that even if it doesn't kill the sperm seriously messes it up, thus messed up kids. Also I'm not sure exactly how birth control pills work but I'm sure it couldn't have helped. That's another reason, it sounds cruel but why force another burden on society, and the parents?

 

I haven't read the other four pages that follow this, but I'm going to answer this anyways. :P

 

Birth control pills trick your body into thinking it's pregnant. All they are are estrogen and progesterone, which your body will produce en mass when your pregnant. :P It's not recommended to be on the pill when you're pregnant, but there's no proof that it does anything to harm the child. My mothers [obviously kind of stupid..] doctor put my mom on the pill when she missed her period. I turned out just fine. ^^

 

I'm pro-choice. Not late-term, that's just.. too far. And I highly doubt anyone would use abortion as they're only form of birth control. Some birth-control/sex class I was in, they described the process of an abortion. They scrape out the insides of your uterus. That sounds highly painful to me, and I doubt it's something women want to do unless they feel they have no other choice.

[pegpenguin]

whats the difference between late term and earlier? and as far as the philosophical side of things....well it's taking a life, or a life that could have been, either way it's taking a life. Which is murder. Which is against the law last time I checked. but thats just me debating, as for my personal opinion....

 

well I'm torn, because I truly believe it's murder no matter how early....but I do believe in democracy, pure democracy not the crap america does now. And I have no control over what a person does with themselves. but the only thing I can say really has been said before. You notice how all the people supporting abortion have already been born?

 

which to me says how do you think the baby would feel? or fetus or whatever name you want to put on it, it's still going to have a life eventually and you're taking it away before it even has a chance.

 

but what appalls me is how did societies go from protecting their young to wanting to kill them? it's just sick

 

but again I can't control people so I can't do much lol

[Romy]

whats the difference between late term and earlier? and as far as the philosophical side of things....well it's taking a life, or a life that could have been, either way it's taking a life. Which is murder. Which is against the law last time I checked. but thats just me debating, as for my personal opinion....

 

well I'm torn, because I truly believe it's murder no matter how early....but I do believe in democracy, pure democracy not the crap america does now. And I have no control over what a person does with themselves. but the only thing I can say really has been said before. You notice how all the people supporting abortion have already been born?

 

which to me says how do you think the baby would feel? or fetus or whatever name you want to put on it, it's still going to have a life eventually and you're taking it away before it even has a chance.

 

but what appalls me is how did societies go from protecting their young to wanting to kill them? it's just sick

 

but again I can't control people so I can't do much lol

 

Well, if you'd call that murder, for not letting potential life grow, then you should say that about any protected sex, masturbation, and any of those late-pills aswell. Heck, you could even say that about a woman's period....

 

 

As for how they'd feel... I don't know if they could even understand how they are feeling, and either way, it's usually over pretty soon. I think living a life of suffering is much worse than not living at all.

[Iamdan]

whats the difference between late term and earlier? and as far as the philosophical side of things....well it's taking a life, or a life that could have been, either way it's taking a life. Which is murder. Which is against the law last time I checked. but thats just me debating, as for my personal opinion....

 

well I'm torn, because I truly believe it's murder no matter how early....but I do believe in democracy, pure democracy not the crap america does now. And I have no control over what a person does with themselves. but the only thing I can say really has been said before. You notice how all the people supporting abortion have already been born?

 

which to me says how do you think the baby would feel? or fetus or whatever name you want to put on it, it's still going to have a life eventually and you're taking it away before it even has a chance.

 

but what appalls me is how did societies go from protecting their young to wanting to kill them? it's just sick

 

but again I can't control people so I can't do much lol

 

Well, if you'd call that murder, for not letting potential life grow, then you should say that about any protected sex, masturbation, and any of those late-pills aswell. Heck, you could even say that about a woman's period....

 

 

As for how they'd feel... I don't know if they could even understand how they are feeling, and either way, it's usually over pretty soon. I think living a life of suffering is much worse than not living at all.

 

To that they will say a fetus has more of a chance of life than sperm etc.

 

Then I say their point is irrelevant, the only way that would be a valid point is if we had a lack of people. A fetus having more of a chance at life than sperm doesn't matter. It would still be classed as murder using that logic. - Which it isn't.

[Distracted]

whats the difference between late term and earlier? and as far as the philosophical side of things....well it's taking a life, or a life that could have been, either way it's taking a life. Which is murder. Which is against the law last time I checked. but thats just me debating, as for my personal opinion....

 

well I'm torn, because I truly believe it's murder no matter how early....but I do believe in democracy, pure democracy not the crap america does now. And I have no control over what a person does with themselves. but the only thing I can say really has been said before. You notice how all the people supporting abortion have already been born?

 

which to me says how do you think the baby would feel? or fetus or whatever name you want to put on it, it's still going to have a life eventually and you're taking it away before it even has a chance.

 

but what appalls me is how did societies go from protecting their young to wanting to kill them? it's just sick

 

but again I can't control people so I can't do much lol

 

You say it as if every person that finds out they're pregnant gets an abortion. We haven't gone from protecting to killing them (hell, we're protecting them too much right now). The fetus doesn't have a conscience yet. Do you remember your time in the uterus? I sure as hell don't. No one does.

[superson]

You notice how all the people supporting abortion have already been born?

 

Not commenting on your actual points, but this just struck my as hilariously funny.

[RpgGamer]

Acceptable circumastances of abortion:

1) would-be mother was raped into the child-baring state

2) giving birth would somehow kill, or severely harm the mother

3) the baby was known to have severe birth defects and wouldn't likely live on the outside world

 

 

Any other situation? The mother should go through with it. It's their responsibility, to care for the baby they chose to help create. They are not god and don't have the right to take the life of said future being. if the woman had a choice in the making of the baby, she should not have a choice in whether or not to keep it. If the choice of making the baby was taken from her, than she is givin the option to not keep it. Who are we to take the life of the unborn?

 

Adoption ftw! :D

 

(and don't even get me started on those heathens that use abortion as birth ontrol...)