Hegemony

[The_Mather1]

Archi, I defended with 200,000 troops? More like 20,000,000, most of my people have military training and are obligated to fight. Next time you ask for my defences... listen!

 

Japan is willing to surrender the offensive.

[Icuownage]

I wont sign the current treaty, cause of the massive unfairness and due to the fact I could just spend the remining cut of my budget and go crazy and probably [bleep] some [cabbage] up before I explode it all in a huge [bleep] move.

 

I WILL NOT, destroy my university unless everyone else destroys one of their wonders.

 

It's like asking France to destroy the eiffel tower, the university is now part of our culture.

 

 

This war will have to come to an end, but it wont be on such negative terms for us.

[The Dark Lord]

I guess that you shouldn't have supported South Africa after it invaded Dusty because Snubbe tried to take advantage of Dusty in a "weakened" state.

 

War's nasty, and you're on the losing side.

[Icuownage]

The Treaty of India

Some land is given back - We keep some, I'll keep Wu, I don't want your presence anywhere near me.

Gains in Africa are at max halved and given back to either Rocco or Snubbe and you can keep the rest you conquered.

Azerbaijan is ceded to Russia <---- I don't know if its a big deal

Iran regains any land it previously owned currently controlled by Byzantium

South Africa grants independence to the Boers, establishing the Republik of Orange. The Republik of Orange goes to French rule <-- I don't know if thats a big deal, doesn't seem like it

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No money is given to Byzantinium cause of how rich their allies are.

 

Signed: India

 

I know this war is lost on our side, cause it was originally going to be only 4 weak Asian and African countries fighting one European super power, didn't really expect it to escalate past that.

[The Dark Lord]

I believe that some reparations are at least in order for Dusty, considering that the Eastern Bloc nuked him and then smashed up the Middle East.

[Nero]

The ERE accepts the surrender of Japan.

 

Icu, it really doesn't matter to me whether the war continues or not. You could continue fighting, but I would as well. So, unless you think you can stand up against France, Russia, the ERE, Italy, and South America...I suggest you take the deal, which is already fairly lenient towards you.

 

The Treaty of Constantinople

All land formerly part of the Western Powers is returned to its owners (Wu, Florida, Arabia, etc)

All Western gains in Africa remain in the hands of their current owners.

Azerbaijan is ceded to Russia

Northern Japan is ceded to Italy

India must demolish its University

Iran regains any land it previously owned currently controlled by Byzantium

South Africa grants independence to the Boers, establishing the Republik of Orange. The Republik of Orange goes to French rule

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Reparations to the tune of 1 trillion dollars are paid to the treasury of the Eastern Roman Empire.

 

Signed: ERE, Italy, France, Russia, Egypt, Japan

[The_Mather1]

Dusty, the university must not be destroyed, Icu is using it more for the sake of others than for himself. Also making north-Japan a permanent part of Italy will never be accepted either.

 

I said I discontinued attacks, I didn't sign that damn treaty.

[The Dark Lord]

I can confirm that Japan is working on separate negotiations with Italy.

 

Dusty, I tried to get you to give the two options that Doom presented for Italy (part of Japan's IAG or northern Japan), but you only listed the northern Japan option. We will work in order to get Italy pacified, though.

[Nero]

I can confirm that Japan is working on separate negotiations with Italy.

 

Dusty, I tried to get you to give the two options that Doom presented for Italy (part of Japan's IAG or northern Japan), but you only listed the northern Japan option. We will work in order to get Italy pacified, though.

Sere, you aren't part of the negotiations.

Also,

Sere it says Northern Japan. As in, the northern part of the isle of Japan, not the entirety of the north of Japan's land holdings.

 

The Treaty of Constantinople

All land formerly part of the Western Powers is returned to its owners (Wu, Florida, Arabia, etc)

All Western gains in Africa remain in the hands of their current owners.

Azerbaijan is ceded to Russia

Northern Japan is ceded to Italy

India must demolish its University

Iran regains any land it previously owned currently controlled by Byzantium

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Reparations to the tune of 1 trillion dollars are paid to the treasury of the Eastern Roman Empire.

 

 

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Anything I missed?

 

K, I'll post it if no one has any objections?

 

Sounds fine.

 

 

 

 

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Like I said, I have no qualms about continuing the war, just keep in mind that if things go in our favour the next treaty offer will be a lot harsher.

[The_Mather1]

Anyone involved should be part of the negotiations.

 

Either way Dusty, making harsher treaties will only ensure them to be ignored, if your allies stand for you blackmailing for your own doom.

[Nero]

Exactly, and Sere isn't involved in any way...

 

Mather, I don't really think you understand the concept we are dealing with here. This should help.

 

And demanding concessions from the losing side of a war is hardly blackmailing. It's called terms. This should help, again.

 

Ignoring a treaty because you don't want to concede anything is...stupid. I think you and Icu are pretty much the only ones that have any real problem with the terms asked (or at least the only ones that have voiced such).

[Bier]

I can accept the following:

 

All land formerly part of the Western Powers is returned to its owners (Wu, Florida, Arabia, etc)

All Western gains in Africa remain in the hands of their current owners.

Azerbaijan is ceded to Russia

Northern Japan is ceded to Italy

India must demolish its University

Iran regains any land it previously owned currently controlled by Byzantium

South Africa grants independence to the Boers, establishing the Republic of Orange. The Republic of Orange becomes a French protectorate

Reparations to the tune of 750 billion dollars are paid to the treasury of the Eastern Roman Empire.

 

It would be nice if the American territory is given to Retech if he wants to, but that is really not something I care that much about.

[The_Mather1]

Dusty, this is no surrender, it's a sort of NAP, no agression pact.

 

And blackmailing is demanding something, using threats to back it up, like you're doing now.

[Nero]

Okay then, that's your version of the treaty, though I'm a bit perplexed that you would cross out the things that don't effect you anyways.

 

South Africa signs the Treaty of Cairo.

 

All land formerly part of the Western Powers is returned to its owners (Wu, Florida, Arabia, etc)

All Western gains in Africa remain in the hands of their current owners.

Azerbaijan is ceded to Russia

Iran regains any land it previously owned currently controlled by Byzantium

South Africa grants independence to the Boers, establishing the Republic of Orange. The Republic of Orange becomes a French protectorate.

Reparations to the tune of 750 billion dollars are paid to the treasury of the Eastern Roman Empire.

 

The Treaty of Constantinople still stands for the other powers involved in the war, with the same terms.

 

Dusty, this is no surrender, it's a sort of NAP, no agression pact.

 

And blackmailing is demanding something, using threats to back it up, like you're doing now.

Blackmail is the crime of threatening to reveal substantially true information about a person to the public, a family member, or associates unless a demand made upon the victim is met.

 

And no, this is a surrender negotiation, not a non aggression pact lol.

[The_Mather1]

You call it that, the rest of us disagree, and in such a situation it is easy to understand which side is correct; the one that was attacking. We are able to keep fighting, but we're unwilling to. we do not say you are a superior nation, only one we do not wish to continue the fight with. We do not surrender, we offer a temporary or complete stop of warfare.

[a_bert]

Mather, your coalition is laughable. You are disorganised, everyone wants different things, half of your coalition has surrendered and accepted a treaty which lives them gimped and second rate for the duration of the game without even consulting it with the rest of your alliance. It is a surrender. A humiliating one.

[Retech]

-Facepalm-

 

Well is anyone okay with leaving me a peaceful existance on the moon? (Especially Dusty, lol) :thumbsup:

[archimage_a]

United Nations Intervention-Treaty:

 

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The Coalition(minus Mather) pays 1 trillion to Dusty in treasury money and 500 billion in IAG(as of next year)

Rocco keeps 80% of his IAG, the rest goes to Doom.

Spainish territory is divided between South Africa and France.

South Asian Federation is divided between Dusty, Mather and Ico(Or between Dusty and Ico, Dusty getting the parts assigned to Mather on the map)

South America exchanges the territory it captured for some different territory, plus a city, in the hopes of preventing war in Africa.

Retech reassumes command of most of America, being given 800 billion IAG from Dusty and Grim.

The Moon base is abandoned, though remains intact for whoever lands up there next(If they can find it)

Doom takes control of Japan, along with 500 billion in IAG.

 

There is a Non-Aggression period until the 3rd of June. Breaking the treaty, unless priorly agreed as 'reasonable under the circumstances' with me, will result in a 3.0 Infrastructure hit.

 

Any other territory changes are shown on the map.

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[The_Mather1]

No signature from me.

[Nero]

I can agree with that Arch, except Hispaniola returns to ERE control.

 

Retech reassumes command of most of America, being given 800 billion IAG from Dusty and Grim.

Not this though. Why would he need 800b? He just got a country that has like 1.2t IAG.

 

Also nothing about destroying Icu's university :(

 

Paul might not like that part hehe.

 

No signature from me.

It's quite apparent you're unwilling to accept anything but a white peace, even though nearly your entire homeland is occupied (I guess giving Italy around 300 million fighter jets to play around with), so we can just cut anything to/from Mather out of that treaty Arch, and have us (France, ERE, Italy, South America, Russia) continue the war against Japan and simply force those terms. It's like WW2 all over again, weee.

[The_Mather1]

I am simply not going to agree with something that ruins most of what I've done so far in order to achieve something that is mutually benefisial.

 

Now shut the hell up with those crappy treaties and come up with something that doesn't screw with anyone or you'll have an incoming [cabbage]storm that'll ruin your self esteem and possibly even your sanity.

 

 

Also you're the only one who hate me (as far as I know), your so called allies helped defend your country, I dubt they will help you annihalate someone who attacked as a retalliatory strike when his ally was threatened to be nuked.

[The_Mather1]

I can accept the following:

 

All land formerly part of the Western Powers is returned to its owners (Wu, Florida, Arabia, etc)

All Western gains in Africa remain in the hands of their current owners.

Azerbaijan is ceded to Russia

Northern Japan is ceded to Italy

India must demolish its University

Iran regains any land it previously owned currently controlled by Byzantium

South Africa grants independence to the Boers, establishing the Republic of Orange. The Republic of Orange becomes a French protectorate

Reparations to the tune of 750 billion dollars are paid to the treasury of the Eastern Roman Empire.

 

It would be nice if the American territory is given to Retech if he wants to, but that is really not something I care that much about.

 

This I can stand for, nothing worse.

[archimage_a]

Not this though. Why would he need 800b? He just got a country that has like 1.2t IAG.

The money has to come from somewhere. There is no inherant link between land and money, so the money needs to be subtracted from somewhere and given to him.

I can agree with that Arch, except Hispaniola returns to ERE control.

Will add

[Nero]

The money has to come from somewhere. There is no inherant link between land and money, so the money needs to be subtracted from somewhere and given to him.

Well, I can give him 1 dollar so that he doesn't lose all his infrastructure. He'll get his full IAG at the start of the next decade anyways, so I don't see the point in giving him 800b to piss around with this decade.

 

I am simply not going to agree with something that ruins most of what I've done so far in order to achieve something that is mutually benefisial.

 

Now shut the hell up with those crappy treaties and come up with something that doesn't screw with anyone or you'll have an incoming [cabbage]storm that'll ruin your self esteem and possibly even your sanity.

 

 

Also you're the only one who hate me (as far as I know), your so called allies helped defend your country, I dubt they will help you annihalate someone who attacked as a retalliatory strike when his ally was threatened to be nuked.

Zomg blackmail! And lol, you joined the war as a retaliatory strike against a sarcastic comment? Hahahahaha.

 

I never said I hated you. I'm too apathetic to hate anyone.

 

Btw what you're doing is akin to the Romans demanding that the Visigoths surrender after Rome got sacked and the entire Roman empire collapsed.

 

This I can stand for, nothing worse.

Oh I assure you it'll get worse.

[archimage_a]

Well, I can give him 1 dollar so that he doesn't lose all his infrastructure. He'll get his full IAG at the start of the next decade anyways, so I don't see the point in giving him 800b to piss around with this decade

Full IAG of what? Either of the territory you gave him, in which case it is subtracted from you(Which is what I am saying)....OR....I don't know...The full IAG of 1?

 

 

 

Anywho, I am off, exam time! Yay....