Prayer or herb

[schmuall]

I swear your clocks are wrong, you can get 65k+/hour at armoured zombies (higher defence) with only 70 attack and 60 strength and 15% prayers.

 

Anyone want to spend an hour with this guy and make sure he's not doing it wrong?

 

Add me ingame, I'll try to help

[Assume Nothing]

I'd say go for herblore first. Having either turmoil or extremes is almost equal in terms of damage per second. I chose prayer personally; and when I want to Monsterhunt, I can't use brews for food, which means I'll get much less kills per trip. Unless you love PvP, stick with herblore.

[L0rdAki]

Brews are tradeable though :P

[Assume Nothing]

Brews being tradeable isn't the point; the point is, with overloads, you'd get your stats kept high, without, you're going to monsterhunt with base stats. And it's obvious that monsterhunting with base stats just suck

[L0rdAki]

Ok, so now I'm leaning towards herby again...but before it was prayer...argh!

 

Schmuall, were you talking to me?

[mujammil]

Right, if you can get overloads, get it, if not get prayer. That's my assumption, turmoil and soul split have more use than all extreme potions below overloads, but overloads definately outweigh turmoil and soul split by far.

[aspeeder]

Brews being tradeable isn't the point; the point is, with overloads, you'd get your stats kept high, without, you're going to monsterhunt with base stats. And it's obvious that monsterhunting with base stats just suck

Supersets much? You there are still useful pots that are trade-able that don't require an arm and a leg and hours of training to use, they just aren't as effective as extremes/overloads (And superantifires, but that's beside the point). I would go with herb if you plan on boss hunting a lot; I casually slay so I'm planning on getting higher prayer first since it's cheaper and suits my needs fine.

[L0rdAki]

How much is it costing to get 92/95 prayer, and 92/96 herby usingthe cheapest methods? (no cleaning pls :P)

[TheAncient]

How much is it costing to get 92/95 prayer, and 92/96 herby usingthe cheapest methods? (no cleaning pls :P)

 

You're better off not trying to be cheap about those things. They cost you hours and hours of time that could have been spent making much more through monster hunting.

 

But to answer your question:

Prayer - Soul Wars, Big Bones

Herblore - Weapon Poison ++

[L0rdAki]

Like mentioned earlier in the topic, i get about 200k/hour...time efficiancy doesn't really matter to me, lawl.

[L0rdAki]

I just tried level 30 green drags...Was dealing with all revs fine but i got like knight after knight after knight. And they healed constantly over like 40 times. Can't go there.

 

Can anyone suggest to me a money making way that doesn't suck?

[Bladewing]

You should be focusing on killing dragons, don't bother trying to fight a revenant. When a revenant appears hop worlds.

 

It's not the method that sucks, it's that ur doin it rong. The only reason you should kill the ones in level 30 wilderness is if your connection is too bad to get dragons at clan wars.

[L0rdAki]

I've just brought like 100 prayer pots and super sets, and am powertraining melee until they run out. I'd like to get 85 attack.

 

Once that's over, should I go green dragons with melee or range?

[schmuall]

I've just brought like 100 prayer pots and super sets, and am powertraining melee until they run out. I'd like to get 85 attack.

 

Once that's over, should I go green dragons with melee or range?

 

Screw it, I'm taking you to avianses. Keep me added in game.

 

RSN: Schmuall

[Assume Nothing]

Like mentioned earlier in the topic, i get about 200k/hour...time efficiancy doesn't really matter to me, lawl.

If you're making THAT little gp/h, you are definately better off cleaning herbs. Use mousekeys with the 5 and + button keys spammed (you do this manually), moving your own mouse to clean the herbs. Plus it's very profitable, I don't see why you wouldn't do it... https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tFr-0QsqK66rLX2wiVsOGpg&hl=en&pli=1 (google docs link I made on herb cleaning)

 

If you can't get money over 1m/h, don't even think about making money to blow on herblore. It's JUST NOT WORTH IT. (1m = ~40k herblore xp) Oh and buying grimy herbs and cleaning them means they would also sell instantly on the ge for a profit too.

[Assume Nothing]

Brews being tradeable isn't the point; the point is, with overloads, you'd get your stats kept high, without, you're going to monsterhunt with base stats. And it's obvious that monsterhunting with base stats just suck

Supersets much? You there are still useful pots that are trade-able that don't require an arm and a leg and hours of training to use, they just aren't as effective as extremes/overloads (And superantifires, but that's beside the point). I would go with herb if you plan on boss hunting a lot; I casually slay so I'm planning on getting higher prayer first since it's cheaper and suits my needs fine.

Supersets? You either; Use normal food which costs more gp/hp, less hps per inventory space (difference of roughly 40hp per slot), and losing combat turns from eating. OR you use brews to last longer but fight with base stats because Saradomin Brews lowers stats.

 

Overloads you can just brew for food, restore back up and wait for the 15 second extreme set boost you would get. Sure, the Overloads do cost, but they make your trip last so much longer that it's worth using.

 

And I'm not even finished; You can use Super Prayer potions and Special Recover potions to last even longer still.

 

So Overloads >>> SuperSets. Plus the fact that Super sets require 3 times more space. It's pretty damn fair to say Super Sets suck compared to Ovls.

[L0rdAki]

I won't do it because the market is so volatile that grimy herbs buy instantly for min but clean ones don't sell. Also, I can't

get anywhere near 7k herbs an hour. Try like 1k. In addition, it's so slow it's not funny...

[Assume Nothing]

I won't do it because the market is so volatile that grimy herbs buy instantly for min but clean ones don't sell. Also, I can't

get anywhere near 7k herbs an hour. Try like 1k. In addition, it's so slow it's not funny...

I already told you. You can mousekey herb cleaning. Even if you can only acheive 5k/h, you are still getting ~44k/h xp (irits). That xp alone is worth 1m, and you can profit from it. The market currently is more volatile than usual due to the new skill I agree, but after everything starts rising again, you should clean herbs.

[L0rdAki]

Using a laptop does not agree with mousekeys >_<

 

I could try and nab a keyboard from the office, but...

 

How long would it take me to get to 95 herby that way?

[Bladewing]

The laptop touchpad button is basically as good as mousekeys.

[L0rdAki]

My touchpad button doesn't work, dude.

 

My rs life is like a series of unfortunate events, lawl.

 

I'd get a new laptop, but it IS a new laptop. >_>

[Assume Nothing]

Using a laptop does not agree with mousekeys >_<

 

I could try and nab a keyboard from the office, but...

 

How long would it take me to get to 95 herby that way?

I use a laptop and I use mousekeys... But having a mouse is better than the touchpad.

 

The thing is; How long it takes really depends on YOUR attention span. Some people hate it, some people find it's the only way. Some people find it awesome. Once you reach level 65, you can do cadantines. 12k herbs = 150k xp. Do that everyday and you'll get it in less than 2 months

 

Edit - A mouse isn't expensive.. Move the mouse and spam 5 and the + button. Simple.

[HexiledRazz]

How effective is turmoil/soul split?

 

Borderline overpowered.

 

Honestly, i've been beaten in my tank gear by people who weren't even wearing a plate and legs. They just soul split and turmoil, and if they don't kill me, they put a huge dent in my LP before going down(I mostly FFA clan wars, and DA). But i guess if they spend 150M on prayer, they deserve the effectiveness. I don't know. I don't have huge inputs of money like boss hunting and bounty hunter, so i guess it's my fault. So i guess i can't complain.

 

But i digress in rant. Just had that pent up after i got turmoiler after turmoiler at the DA yesterday '_'

 

Anyway, back to your original question...

 

I would go with the prayers. From level 80, it costs 150M to get 95 on a G alter. Although I'm not too clear on how much herblore costs. Haven't really researched it.

 

But considering how much you have to spend to buy overloads or extremes, the prayers would be a lot more effective in the long run.

[Assume Nothing]

How effective is turmoil/soul split?

 

Borderline overpowered.

 

Honestly, i've been beaten in my tank gear by people who weren't even wearing a plate and legs. They just soul split and turmoil, and if they don't kill me, they put a huge dent in my LP before going down(I mostly FFA clan wars, and DA). But i guess if they spend 150M on prayer, they deserve the effectiveness. I don't know. I don't have huge inputs of money like boss hunting and bounty hunter, so i guess it's my fault. So i guess i can't complain.

 

But i digress in rant. Just had that pent up after i got turmoiler after turmoiler at the DA yesterday '_'

 

Anyway, back to your original question...

 

I would go with the prayers. From level 80, it costs 150M to get 95 on a G alter. Although I'm not too clear on how much herblore costs. Haven't really researched it.

 

But considering how much you have to spend to buy overloads or extremes, the prayers would be a lot more effective in the long run.

 

Ah; I only say I would go for herblore more because I was faced with the same scenario. I expected herbs to crash down and herblore to become cheap once the fad was over, but nope, it got more expensive. I got prayer up, found soulsplit and turmoil useful, but I would be wayy better off with overloads outside of PvP. There's not just 2 useful potions. And they aren't just melee based either.

 

Overloads benefits a warrior just as much as it benefits a ranger. Using Brews instead of sharks/rocktails also means you last longer, and don't lose attack turns. I would definately think Overloads is better than turmoil, as long as you fight monsters. They are almost equal in terms of accuracy or dps (extremes + piety vs turmoil + supers).

 

The way I see it, is, unless you want to PvP, go for herblore first. And herblore costs nothing/profits you if you clean herbs too. Just 'costs' time.

[aspeeder]

Brews being tradeable isn't the point; the point is, with overloads, you'd get your stats kept high, without, you're going to monsterhunt with base stats. And it's obvious that monsterhunting with base stats just suck

Supersets much? You there are still useful pots that are trade-able that don't require an arm and a leg and hours of training to use, they just aren't as effective as extremes/overloads (And superantifires, but that's beside the point). I would go with herb if you plan on boss hunting a lot; I casually slay so I'm planning on getting higher prayer first since it's cheaper and suits my needs fine.

Supersets? You either; Use normal food which costs more gp/hp, less hps per inventory space (difference of roughly 40hp per slot), and losing combat turns from eating. OR you use brews to last longer but fight with base stats because Saradomin Brews lowers stats.

 

Overloads you can just brew for food, restore back up and wait for the 15 second extreme set boost you would get. Sure, the Overloads do cost, but they make your trip last so much longer that it's worth using.

 

And I'm not even finished; You can use Super Prayer potions and Special Recover potions to last even longer still.

 

So Overloads >>> SuperSets. Plus the fact that Super sets require 3 times more space. It's pretty damn fair to say Super Sets suck compared to Ovls.

Oooooor you can use a mix of food and uni/fruitbat scrolls, and most boss hunters do use those familiars or a war tort/pack yak. And I think you're giving the overload too much credit, if you drink more than 2 doses of brew in the 15 second recover time you still have to use some kind of recover or your stats will degrade, and the only real place you drink less than one dose per 15 secs soloing would be SGWD. Furthermore if you're on a team extremes are better since the boosts wear off eventually and last longer instead of going all at once, and you want to last as long as possible in a team. PLUS if you have a high pray soulsplit will FURTHER boost your hp, not to mention the faster kills from turmoil. And yes I realize that overloads are better than a superset, don't get me wrong, but there are substitutes for a high herb level but not for a high pray level, that's what I'm trying to prove here.