This is it, I promise. For now.

[L0rdAki]

Ok guys, this is the last thread for now :3 it's been pretty epic, and it should get a whole lot epicer. I don't care if that's not a word. (I plan on making a blogscape thread eventually, bear with me :P)

 

Bank pic:

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The last tab adds up to about 50.2m. I have 2m in my kingdom's coffers.

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Stats are in my sig.

 

As you could gather from my other threads, my long term goals are(In no particular order):

 

-90 range/mage

-92 prayer

-95 herby

-88/96 summoning

-Be able to armadyl for cash

 

That's what i'd like to get done.

 

So, really, i'm a little stuck on the path. Picking fungus gets boring after a little while, y'know :P

 

Perhaps a little advice from what to do from here-on in? I'm just money making because idk what else to do for the meantime.

 

Also...i'd prefer to stay away from melee if at all possible during the meantime. Just a note.

 

Thanks all.

[L0rdAki]

Come on guys...this would be a big help :D

[D Jay99]

Farm herbs. Farm more herbs and do daily stuff. And farm some more herbs.

All while doing slayer/az's or something for defence levels for arma (might want to train att/str too since that could never hurt).

After some time you should have money, burst rock lobs for mage levels and charms. Get 90 mage/88 summ.

Farm mooooore herbs. Get 90 herb or something with the money. Also get 80 prayer.

Make money through some kind of mhing/slayer (I profited 30 gp/xp avg on slayer so it's not that bad, and that was cannoning/turmoiling everything).

Once you have enough money, get 92/95 pray and 93 herb (easy to stew for overloads from there).

And farm more herbs. Train range if you still have to after maybe cannoning slayer, just buy some grey chins.

 

Also, don't ever pick fungus again. It really is one of the worst things you could do for money if you have goals, since it doesn't gain you any xp.

 

Should keep you busy for quite a while, you got pretty large goals for your stats so I'd be surprised if you actually make it. Good luck anyway :P

Notice the herbs in there, it's a vital part of the plan. Without that you probably will have lots of money problems lol.

[L0rdAki]

I'm still kinda Meh on the slayer front.

 

I've been very consistant with farming my herbs, as you can tell by my bank pic ;)

 

So the order you propose is something along the lines of Summon -> Mage -> Herb -> Prayer -> Range -> Herb -> Prayer?

 

Edit: What do you propose I do for money then? I can constantly get about 400k/hour picking fungus?

[D Jay99]

400k/h is nothing if you're aiming for 95 herb/pray. Say 200m total needed, that would be 500 hours doing nothing but fungus. I dont really have any suggestions on making money though, somehow I have always gotten by with just herbs/mtk/battlestaves/slayer.

 

Order would be melee+range (possibly use this for making money somehow) -> mage -> summon 88 -> money (preferably through something that gets you xp) -> herb 90 -> prayer 92 -> money (same as before) -> 96 summ/95 herb/95 pray.

[schmuall]

I'm still kinda Meh on the slayer front.

 

I've been very consistant with farming my herbs, as you can tell by my bank pic ;)

 

So the order you propose is something along the lines of Summon -> Mage -> Herb -> Prayer -> Range -> Herb -> Prayer?

 

Edit: What do you propose I do for money then? I can constantly get about 400k/hour picking fungus?

 

You could always get a few range levels at avianses. They're better cash than fungus and you'll be getting range xp at the same time.

[L0rdAki]

I"m kinda meh about aviansies cause it'd take a while getting to and from gwd, especially with the odd times i'm on.

 

Ranging Blue drags in Gu'tanoth (via tanking) was an option i brought up earlier, how does that sound?

 

I need to find a more consistant money making way that doesn't require connection competition for the moment (IE: green dragons) hence why i've been picking fungus.

 

EDIT: Also, picking fungus at the moment is better then doing nothing...I need a way to make money, and fast D:

[L0rdAki]

I really wish there was a bump function...

 

It sounds like i'm gonna be bleeding myself dry for cash. How else can i make decent money while fitting in my farm runs?

[Roz]

Avansies are probably your best bet if you want to do armadyl, prehaps get 90/95 range here, then spend the cash on summon/mage/herb/prayer. Maybe armadyl duo with some friends.

 

Just carry on making cash using skills in your goal list, till you can buy the other levels in your goal.

[L0rdAki]

Blue dragons arn't a good option, then?

 

EDIT: Also, should i sell my herbs and stuff now as they're crashing, or hold onto them?

[mujammil]

NO NO NO NO.

 

Listen to Dgay, farm herbs, keep farming herbs and since you aspire a lot of high leveled goals which require excessive amounts of cash, you will NEED to MH. I would farm herbs and slay right now for 90 defence, from gaining 90 defence you should have enoug hcash to get 95-99 range and 88 summ from the charms gathered from slayer, and also barraging/bursting with left over cash, get that and then start doing armadyl for all your money needs as you will have to wait a LONG time to do any other MH as they require high atk/str levels.

 

Another option would be merchanting, but if you have no experience in it right now, don't bother.

[Obtaurian]

D Jay99 and I pretty much do the same stuff (he just does it more consistently and he's been doing it longer <_< ). Aviansies are definitely a good option if you're going for a high ranged level and need money at the same time. Now would be a great time to do it, too, as everyone is busy with dungeoneering. I highly recommend that you farm, farm, farm, MTK, farm, MTK, battlestaffs, farm, MTK, MTK, farm, slayer (I've probably made most of my money from slayer, so it's an option), farm, Bork, farm, and camp aviansies.

[L0rdAki]

Ok, well considering I only have 33m of useable cash, would that be enough for slayer gear?

 

Also, I've heard in other topics before that slayer is neither a good source of exp/charms, and I average a loss. Would I have to go about it really cheaply? No pots/piety/anything?

[Low C]

I know it's been said but Mtk, farming, and slayer are great. Your first goal I think should be a yak as you can make 3m/hr at Dk's with it banking hide's bones and such. Doing that first would give you a solid money maker to tackle your more expensive goals. I suggest slaying for charms and farming in between tasks. Betime you get the charms you need from slaying you'll have amassed a nice fortune from slayer drops and herb farming. Mtk on the side also helps.

[Obtaurian]

Ok, well considering I only have 33m of useable cash, would that be enough for slayer gear?

 

Also, I've heard in other topics before that slayer is neither a good source of exp/charms, and I average a loss. Would I have to go about it really cheaply? No pots/piety/anything?

 

Slayer is not the best way to gather charms.

Slayer is not the best way to train any one combat skill.

Slayer is not the best way to make money.

However, Slayer does all of these things at the same time, so it ultimately saves time. Time is money.

 

At your levels, you should be able to get a fire cape with some practice, so I would recommend that you get a proselyte plate, Verac's skirt, whip, rune defender, barrows gloves, dragon boots, fury, berserker ring, full slayer helm, and a fire cape. This is your standard melee task set. You should also buy a Zamorakian spear, Karil's top, and Karil's skirt. This is your waterfiends and mage defense set. Use the rest of your money to buy a cannon, cannonballs, super sets, and a LOT of prayer potions. Always use piety, except on tasks where your cannon is doing most of the work (spectres and dagannoths). I didn't look at your summoning level, but if it's 79 or higher, use a combat familiar as often as possible. You should complete the Seer's diary for an enhanced excalibur if you find that you need extra healing (you probably will).

 

EDIT: Looked at your levels again. Use a bunyip until you can use a titan at level 79. If you absolutely refuse to get a fire cape, get a SW cape (though it's probably easier to get a fire cape).

 

Alternatively, a good portion of tasks can be ranged, so ranged slaying is an option. If you decide to ranged slay, get black d'hide, a rune crossbow, broad bolts, full slayer helm, Ava's accumulator, barrows gloves, unholy book, blessed spirit shield (cheap and effective for tanking), fury, snakeskin boots, an archers' ring, and a Zamorak stole for spiritual mages and tasks that require protection prayers. This will be considerably slower experience than meleeing, and you'll use more prayer potions on average. Always use the eagle eye prayer and ranging potions.

[Bladewing]

Slayer is not the best way to gather charms.

Slayer is not the best way to train any one combat skill.

Slayer is not the best way to make money.

However, Slayer does all of these things at the same time, so it ultimately saves time. Time is money.

That's just... false. A linear combination of the best methods would take lest time than slaying given slayer is worse at all three of those.

[mujammil]

Slayer is not the best way to gather charms.

Slayer is not the best way to train any one combat skill.

Slayer is not the best way to make money.

However, Slayer does all of these things at the same time, so it ultimately saves time. Time is money.

That's just... false. A linear combination of the best methods would take lest time than slaying given slayer is worse at all three of those.

 

Explain to me how i manage quite easily 100k+ melle xp/h on average 50 crims/h and end up profiting quite largely whilst cannoning and using turmoil?

 

Slayer is definately your best plan, stick to it, and as for the guy who said get yak as first priority so you can get 3m/h... you need 95+ melle stats overloads turmoil and soulsplit to get that amount >.> so priortise your stuff like either me or djay have suggested.

[Obtaurian]

Slayer is not the best way to gather charms.

Slayer is not the best way to train any one combat skill.

Slayer is not the best way to make money.

However, Slayer does all of these things at the same time, so it ultimately saves time. Time is money.

That's just... false. A linear combination of the best methods would take lest time than slaying given slayer is worse at all three of those.

 

This is assuming that the player will be training slayer at some point in their career.

[Assume Nothing]

400k/h is nothing if you're aiming for 95 herb/pray. Say 200m total needed, that would be 500 hours doing nothing but fungus. I dont really have any suggestions on making money though, somehow I have always gotten by with just herbs/mtk/battlestaves/slayer.

 

Order would be melee+range (possibly use this for making money somehow) -> mage -> summon 88 -> money (preferably through something that gets you xp) -> herb 90 -> prayer 92 -> money (same as before) -> 96 summ/95 herb/95 pray.

 

As he levels, he will have better ability to make money. Since getting 95 herblore will take ~500h picking fungus, he should follow my advice and clean herbs. It's really not that bad considering it profits you. Unless you really have 250m to blow on herblore...

 

And again; Slayer is ONLY efficient for Slayer Xp. For most other things, there are more efficient methods. Yes, it's fine to train without efficiency, just don't go posting that it is efficient.

[Assume Nothing]

Slayer is not the best way to gather charms.

Slayer is not the best way to train any one combat skill.

Slayer is not the best way to make money.

However, Slayer does all of these things at the same time, so it ultimately saves time. Time is money.

That's just... false. A linear combination of the best methods would take lest time than slaying given slayer is worse at all three of those.

 

Explain to me how i manage quite easily 100k+ melle xp/h on average 50 crims/h and end up profiting quite largely whilst cannoning and using turmoil?

 

Slayer is definately your best plan, stick to it, and as for the guy who said get yak as first priority so you can get 3m/h... you need 95+ melle stats overloads turmoil and soulsplit to get that amount >.> so priortise your stuff like either me or djay have suggested.

 

Wow, yet again we have another version of the Slayer Sucks! thread.

 

Slayer is enjoyable. Fun. Somewhat profitable and casual. Slayer is NOT the most efficient of methods to train anything but Slayer Xp. Note the word 'most'. There are almost always another superior method in which to train. 100% truth and undeniable fact.

 

What I suggest; Do Slayer if you enjoy it. If not, stick with grinding.

[Obtaurian]

Seeing as how you're familiar with the "Slayer Sucks" thread, Dzi, you should be aware that many posters proved most of Compfreak's arguments to be incorrect. Compfreak was an incredibly inefficient slayer who argued against it based on how he himself slayed.

 

EDIT: To clarify, the only argument that Compfreak made that was not proven wrong was that armored zombies are faster melee experience than slayer.

 

Assuming that a player has balanced stats and will be training all of them, including slayer, at some point in his/her career, it's the best way to train combat. It is simply untrue that maxing via other methods, THEN coming back to slayer, is faster and more efficient.

[L0rdAki]

Holy cow guys :0

 

I have a soul wars cape but not a fire cape. Don't want a fire cape ATM.

 

I'm not overly concerned about efficiancy. About a week's worth (168 hours) doesn't worry me tbh. (yes, 1 week's playing time). I will be training slayer, but I want to get one of my goals first. I'm asking because i have a feeling I'm losing more time then that.

 

I do want slayer exp, but it's not my immediate priority. Mage, range, herby, prayer and summoning exp, plus enough cash to go arma gwd is my priority. I plan on training melée with slayer, I'm not looking at training melée at the moment. Hope this helps.

[Bladewing]

Slayer is not the best way to gather charms.

Slayer is not the best way to train any one combat skill.

Slayer is not the best way to make money.

However, Slayer does all of these things at the same time, so it ultimately saves time. Time is money.

That's just... false. A linear combination of the best methods would take lest time than slaying given slayer is worse at all three of those.

 

Explain to me how i manage quite easily 100k+ melle xp/h on average 50 crims/h and end up profiting quite largely whilst cannoning and using turmoil?

 

Slayer is definately your best plan, stick to it, and as for the guy who said get yak as first priority so you can get 3m/h... you need 95+ melle stats overloads turmoil and soulsplit to get that amount >.> so priortise your stuff like either me or djay have suggested.

You aren't averaging 50 crimsons/hour with slayer. Sorry. But let's say you were anyway. You can profit about 500k an hour or something from slayer.

 

To beat, in ten hours:

5m gp

500 crimsons

1m melee xp

 

How:

Waterfiends: 140 crimsons hour, 90k xp/hour, 300k gp/hour

Armoured Zombies: 140k melee xp/hour, 200k gp/hour

Tormented Demons: 3m gp/hour, 20k melee xp/hour, 12 crimsons, 21 blues

 

3.5 hours of Waterfiends: 490 crimsons, 315k xp, 1,050k gp

4.9 hours of AZs: 685k xp, 980k gp

1 hour of TDs: 3m gp, 20k melee xp, 12 crimsons, 21 blues

 

Total:

9.4 hours: 5,030 gp, 1,020 xp, 502 crimsons, 21+ blues

 

0.6 hours saved. Slayer is only good for slayer xp. Especially if you aren't already 93 slayer and maxed combat.

[Obtaurian]

Holy cow guys :0

 

I have a soul wars cape but not a fire cape. Don't want a fire cape ATM.

 

I'm not overly concerned about efficiancy. About a week's worth (168 hours) doesn't worry me tbh. (yes, 1 week's playing time). I will be training slayer, but I want to get one of my goals first. I'm asking because i have a feeling I'm losing more time then that.

 

I do want slayer exp, but it's not my immediate priority. Mage, range, herby, prayer and summoning exp, plus enough cash to go arma gwd is my priority. I plan on training melée with slayer, I'm not looking at training melée at the moment. Hope this helps.

 

Then I would definitely agree that slayer is not a good option for you.

[L0rdAki]

So we've worked out that slayer's no good ATM...:L

 

What should I be doing now? I do farm herbs, manage kingdom, fletch broads, ect. Also, should I sell my herbs now? (see first post for bank pick, got about 200 more herbs since then.