[TWR] Titans Revolution VS Legendz

[KingLeonidas]

Looks like LGZ totally outpreformed you lol, and those 5 people that apparently logged in l8 woulda made the difference,

 

as Ralph said: stop bickering about ur low lvls and stop thinking that the rules u think are the fair ones, if u ask for a +10000 every war, how is that fair for the other clan? lets say u fight a clan who pulls 20 and has a cb average of lets say 120?!

 

you declare full out on them and pull a good solid 50! were they pull 20? lets say the rules are all styles like in this war, who would win? the clan with 20 would have around lets say 10 binders/blasters and 10 rangers, you would have twice of everything, 25 binders/blasters and 25 rangers, look at the difference of K0 power? doesnt matter if u got low lvls, u got the #, sometimes that many numbers are just too hard to overcome no matter how much warring experience you have.

 

or are u expecting each of their tanks to be absolutly pro and gonna drag u 10 kills each? naw bro, not everyone is that good of a tank.

 

i suggest RM matches, thats where the real "superior warriors" show themselves, with everything even.. if ur scared of the cb average, get urs up and compete, frankly your opponent doesnt care if YOUR clan has fun or not

As I can not be bothered to read all of your [cabbage], I will just say this:

We do not frankly care if our opponent has fun or not. Our real strength, our real "superior warriors", are seen when no limitations are made.

If you can't understand, I will simply say that the real strength of the clan is seen when his loyal members make it to a war and show their skills.

 

If you still failed to understand, basically it is obvious to everyone that a full out is the only way to check who's better.

 

And just one last thing:When it was 12 vrs 10, and the best warriors from both clans were left, we just swiped them.

[Krist115]

Looks like LGZ totally outpreformed you lol, and those 5 people that apparently logged in l8 woulda made the difference,

 

as Ralph said: stop bickering about ur low lvls and stop thinking that the rules u think are the fair ones, if u ask for a +10000 every war, how is that fair for the other clan? lets say u fight a clan who pulls 20 and has a cb average of lets say 120?!

 

you declare full out on them and pull a good solid 50! were they pull 20? lets say the rules are all styles like in this war, who would win? the clan with 20 would have around lets say 10 binders/blasters and 10 rangers, you would have twice of everything, 25 binders/blasters and 25 rangers, look at the difference of K0 power? doesnt matter if u got low lvls, u got the #, sometimes that many numbers are just too hard to overcome no matter how much warring experience you have.

 

or are u expecting each of their tanks to be absolutly pro and gonna drag u 10 kills each? naw bro, not everyone is that good of a tank.

 

i suggest RM matches, thats where the real "superior warriors" show themselves, with everything even.. if ur scared of the cb average, get urs up and compete, frankly your opponent doesnt care if YOUR clan has fun or not

As I can not be bothered to read all of your [cabbage], I will just say this:

We do not frankly care if our opponent has fun or not. Our real strength, our real "superior warriors", are seen when no limitations are made.

If you can't understand, I will simply say that the real strength if the clan is seen when his loyal members make it to a war and show their skills.

 

If you still failed to understand, basically it is obvious to everyone that a full out is the only way to check who's better.

 

And just one last thing:When it was 12 vrs 10, and the best warriors from both clans were left, we just swiped them.

 

no not really lol, ur telling me ur dependant on ur numbers to win, matches shows who has the most skills to fight in a fair matched, if u wanna show ur true potential of ur "superior fighters" and to see how you do in a totally fair match? and if u cant be bother to read my "crap" then how come u replied to it?

 

when it was @ 12 vs 10 lgz members were obviously low on food, if they were totally full then they would have won hands down.... they probably had very low prayer/food to tank with so your statement there is irrelivant, ive seen this case before were clans think that.

[20Rice04]

Just realised what the problem here is: Everyone is arguing what could have happened.

 

Let me tell you something, what could have happened- did happen :D Was a good fight, some good all round 'scaping and everyone enjoyed it. I don't see why people who aren't even from Lgz persist on trolling us with "If you had.... then this wold've.... and Tr woulda... so Lgz woulda.... and that would've changed the outcome entirely!"

 

I suggest these people take it upon themselves to read up on the Thumperian principle.

[Jack]

Good job TR, don't listen to any excuses about number advantages, you and I both know the facts. In my opinion taking down 40 in an all-styles fight isn't that impressive, but gratz nonetheless.

[envymark]

Looks like LGZ totally outpreformed you lol, and those 5 people that apparently logged in l8 woulda made the difference,

 

as Ralph said: stop bickering about ur low lvls and stop thinking that the rules u think are the fair ones, if u ask for a +10000 every war, how is that fair for the other clan? lets say u fight a clan who pulls 20 and has a cb average of lets say 120?!

 

you declare full out on them and pull a good solid 50! were they pull 20? lets say the rules are all styles like in this war, who would win? the clan with 20 would have around lets say 10 binders/blasters and 10 rangers, you would have twice of everything, 25 binders/blasters and 25 rangers, look at the difference of K0 power? doesnt matter if u got low lvls, u got the #, sometimes that many numbers are just too hard to overcome no matter how much warring experience you have.

 

or are u expecting each of their tanks to be absolutly pro and gonna drag u 10 kills each? naw bro, not everyone is that good of a tank.

 

i suggest RM matches, thats where the real "superior warriors" show themselves, with everything even.. if ur scared of the cb average, get urs up and compete, frankly your opponent doesnt care if YOUR clan has fun or not

As I can not be bothered to read all of your [cabbage], I will just say this:

We do not frankly care if our opponent has fun or not. Our real strength, our real "superior warriors", are seen when no limitations are made.

If you can't understand, I will simply say that the real strength of the clan is seen when his loyal members make it to a war and show their skills.

 

If you still failed to understand, basically it is obvious to everyone that a full out is the only way to check who's better.

 

And just one last thing:When it was 12 vrs 10, and the best warriors from both clans were left, we just swiped them.

 

so let me get this straight. in your 2nd sentence you have blatently said that you don't care that the other clan has fun, so in total saying your not after fun wars? confirm/deny

secondly krist's post wasnt all [cabage] it was just plain and simple point of view, if you were here for fun wars then just declare full out, don't ask peeps not to flame when u post it cos that tends to get on peoples nerves and incites flaming, dandaman has gone and shown you that you did infact have the advantage especially because it was all styles so long as you can use fire blast your attack level doesnt matter that much, and tbh its not that hard to get ur pray up esepecially when you had such a huge advangtage your lower levels getting k0ed wouldnt change much as in an all styles war most people get k0ed, its incredibly hard to tank range+melee+blasts when in clasic as blasters+rangers can just stand in center rendering the tanker useless cos he prays 1 way and he gets wrecked by the other styles, say ur in full d hide with range pray on the meleers will just wreck them so your numbers made a huge difference there. gz on the win but lgz performed incredibly well, when seeing the starting i woulda thought lgz would have been wrecked as i never rated them that highly but after seeing this i have a huge respect increase for lgz.

 

ps. dont just say its all cabage and ignore it at least read it like i have read ur posts.

[Tycoonman15]

I think LGZ Performed well, wouldn't say TR ourperformed but I would say TR did win fairly. LGZ could have won, if they did target lower lvls first I hope...

 

:thumbup: (left out last bit cos.. yeah. but gratz anyway TiR :)

 

E: epic fail on quote

[STDracula]

I don't think it's flame baiting.

I think that the only flame baiting that occured was done by Lgz, as you can see here:

 

Don't you think it's kinda sad that #1 TWR clan flames after losing?

Sore losers much?

 

P.S.

Thanks for your analyze, it cleary did NOT enlighten anyone, hope you had fun :rolleyes:

 

Lol sorry just notice this, if you toke that as a flame then i m terriblely sorry :sad: . I was the one who mention spamming it as we were quite proud of our preformance + the war with tr, we all went omfg there is a rev gob, the first thing i done was better warn tr (as ur member cmb is low + if they get attack, the rest of the clan can't pile it), it was just a warning, If you did think that was a flame then it's my fault not the rest of the clan... once again sorry if u toke it as a flame. :( For those that know me, I always look out for people ;)

[KingLeonidas]

Lol sorry just notice this, if you toke that as a flame then i m terriblely sorry :sad: . I was the one who mention spamming it as we were quite proud of our preformance + the war with tr, we all went omfg there is a rev gob, the first thing i done was better warn tr (as ur member cmb is low + if they get attack, the rest of the clan can't pile it), it was just a warning, If you did think that was a flame then it's my fault not the rest of the clan... once again sorry if u toke it as a flame. :( For those that know me, I always look out for people ;)

Apology accepted.

Thanks for clearing that issue, was terribly annoyed when first saw it.

[20Rice04]

Lol sorry just notice this, if you toke that as a flame then i m terriblely sorry :sad: . I was the one who mention spamming it as we were quite proud of our preformance + the war with tr, we all went omfg there is a rev gob, the first thing i done was better warn tr (as ur member cmb is low + if they get attack, the rest of the clan can't pile it), it was just a warning, If you did think that was a flame then it's my fault not the rest of the clan... once again sorry if u toke it as a flame. :( For those that know me, I always look out for people ;)

Apology accepted.

Thanks for clearing that issue, was terribly annoyed when first saw it.

 

HA told you so!! :D

 

sorry, me and Haga were talking about this earlier <3:

[Hama215]

Omg.. couldn't make it :wall: stupid cup weekend #-o

Gf Lgz, Good job TR =D>

[Gimingo]

GF

 

THIS IS SPARTA!

 

 

I love your signature lol

 

 

gj TR, I can't wait to fight you guys (if you approve us on rhq) :thumbsup:

[MishaMisho]

Lol. :^_^:

 

Thanks for the great war LGZ! :D I wasn't there but I heard it was awesome.

 

Goodjob TR! =D>

[Abkb24]

:thumbsup:

[Tommmie]

if your skilled? " warriors" why did most of you got 1-2 hitted?

[Monkeyblazer]

well.

Not trying to make excuses...but...

 

2 of our Callers we stoned.

...including myself :o

 

Also we had a [cabbage] pull...

And we performed like we had something up our [wagon]..

 

We did 1 hit 60% of Tr though lmao.

 

I guess that's how we downed 39 of em

[Danny_TeamDan]

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Thanks for the awesome fight, Legendz, it was epic. :thumbsup:

I was hoping that both clans would get a higher pull, but it was really fun :thumbup:

 

Inb4excuses.

 

Funny, I thought the OP said "As always, I would like to keep this topic clean. Flaming/ flame baiting / trolling and other such childish nuisance is neither appreciated nor allowed. Anyone doing so can expect their posts ignored and reported."

 

That includes TR. Can't wait to see you get reported lol.

 

Thanks for the awesome fight, Legendz, it was epic. :thumbsup:

I was hoping that both clans would get a higher pull, but it was really fun :thumbup:

 

Inb4excuses.

 

Im pretty sure having a 15 man start disadvantage is a legit excuse. Bad pull from LGZ.

Grats on the win TR, but lgz outperformed, event being heavily outnumbered

It's called a full out war.

And also it's called an levels clan against a 115 f2p combat average clan.

 

In my opinion the clan that outperformed is the clan that beat #1 TWR clan in a full out, but w/e bro =D>

 

Your pull was roughly around 100 cmb average... Still out leveled BUT I'd take an extra 3k hp bonus (calculated by old HP) Assuming that everyone had 20 spaces for food and used tunas -> 15(extra opts advantage you had on them) x 10 (tuna) x 20 (amount in invy)

 

Also imagine if those 15 extra people did 20 damage on one person That's already 300 HP taken down from person tanking (Once again calculated by old HP) Basically making it harder to tank, especially in all styles. You have more blasters/binders/rangers more of everything.

 

I think LGZ Performed well, wouldn't say TR ourperformed but I would say TR did win fairly. LGZ could have won, if they did target lower lvls first I hope they took down your main fi leaders first :P

 

I think you need to think out of the box. We are an all levels clan without any requirements (skill or combat experience) whatsoever. When facing a clan of 100+ you have a good bet that the lower levels will get targetted and KO'ed instantly or with ease. That is not the case with our clan. Some of our low levels are skilled enough to drag overpowering clans long enough for the rest of the clan to balance out the odds - Level 80's tanking against ~25 100+ for a sufficient amount of time to give us another kill. Its called team work, something that can be quite visible to the people that can gauge skill relative to levels.

 

IMO superior tactics also determined the outcome of the war. Lgz had much fewer blasters than us, so we were able to take out their tanks at a faster rate with multiple styles combined.

 

Just because you don't require skill or combat experience doesn't mean you don't have it.

 

As for tactics cool, I wonder why LGZ had less blasters due to being outnumbered by 15 people.

 

Gratz on your win TR, good effort LGZ you made it close, not quite the Cinderella war Infinitone probably wanted :rolleyes:

 

inb4youthinkimtrollingbecauseianalyzedmyviewsonthewar.

 

Also inb4TRoriginalposterhastoreporthisownclanmate.

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I was expecting this from you.

 

1. 'Inb4excuses' is not excactly 'Flaming/ flame baiting / trolling', but then again 'it takes one to know one'

2. Your 'hp calculator' thingymajig, i dont see what your point of saying that was. But dont take that as a query, as your reply would not be appreciated.

3. 'inb4youthinkimtrollingbecauseianalyzedmyviewsonthewar.' analyzed your views on the war? or analyzed other peoples views on the war? Again dont take that as a query, as nobody cares for your reply.

4. I love how ninane recently posted a topic on being hypocrites (in a different way). But your being a hypocrite right now, you try to accuse one of my clans members of 'Flaming/ flame baiting / trolling', and you just did.

 

:)

 

Gf lgz, saw a lot of rangers though. Thanks for the fight :D, gr8 pull guys.

 

1. It is a bait.

2. Quote me, expect a reply. Don't like it? Ignore me. It was showing you how it gave you a huge advantage before battle was started.

3. Yes it was my views, I did not call up Ralph IRL and a bunch of other people to discuss our feelings on the matter, collect all information, and then have me post it and represent it to you. Again, quote me/question me expect an answer. Lastly on this point you obviously cared to bring it up, If you don't care then don't make a deal out of it and respond.

4. It wasn't trolling. I never said LAWL TR IS TERRIBLE. I stated/reacted to TR members cockiness, on how I see them holding the Advantage over LGZ.

 

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Wow lgz. Just wow I'm so used to seeing you with a number advantage but not even I imagined u would lose to a all level clan even being outnumbered..

 

Good job TR. #1Tipit

Best post ever <3:

 

Funny, OP stated he didn't want to see trolls on this topic, yet TR love posts that are Trolls in their favor. Is this the hypocrisy you were talking about?

 

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TR, it's your choice not to move up your reqs, so stop whining that every clan in the world has a higher CB Average than you, it's nobodies fault but your own.

 

Sorry, I'm still looking for the person who complained about us being all levels :S we're quite happy like that thanks? :thumbsup:

You keep going on about how your low levels and much higher pull made it an even war, when in fact it didn't make it event. Dandaman has already shown you exactly how much of an advantage you have over LGZ with has mathz0rz, you just need to learn to comprehend posts.

 

Not to mention every declaration you complain about "FFSU HAZ LAIKE 50 CB AVG MOAR DAN US, NO FAIRZ@@@@@" Well you know what this is your own fault, so whether it be declarations or war aftermaths accept the fact that LGZ lost because you had a giagantic advantage over them.]

[/hide]

 

I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but lol at this.

 

Firstly Dan's 'mathematics' fail to account for several variables such as defence and attack levels- Although we admittedly may have had over 300hp (by the old system) he failed to account for the fact that the people with this food often had under 70 defence. The people fighting for Lgz I'm reckoning for the most part have over 85 attack with most of them being over 90. In short they can make micemeat of us.

------It was 3k by the old system, not 300. Close though you were only off by 2700 (old hp). In all styles having extra people can allow for more ko power regardless of lvls. More ko power.

He also failed to look at warring experience. As a clan I'm prepared to admit that Lgz are out of the new school easily within the top 5 alongside other clans like T0 and Df. We on the other hand have very little warring experience as a clan- this was our first major TWR fullout as a new clan, you really can't compare the two of us cause they're totally out of our league.

-----Okay. Don't go around being cocky about it then. Because if you're going to act cocky about it then you do think you have the experience on them and would beat them again.

I'm not trying to detract here from what Legendz achieved because that they killed 40 of our members I find slightly embarrassing, but still as clans they are vastly superior warrers.

---- Nothing to say to this.

As for declarations- we just want a fair war. We appreciate here that Lgz went out of there way to make the rules as unbiased as possible- they capped the rangers and put blasts on. This meant lower levels could inflict more damage. The main idea our clan is based around is that everyone should be able to have fun. Is it really fun if we're showing up with 40 all levels to fight a clan who we know is probably still going to cream us? I also think that some of the clans would be good enough to relish the actual prospect of a challenge.

----- Nothing to say to this.

Saying that we beat Legendz because we had the advantage is kind of like saying "Well Man City were going to win, but two late goals in extra time from Man Utd, which are statistically irrelevant, caused us to lose." - Err DUH.

Statistically speaking, having more options in an all styles will result in a win. Not to mention that you generally win with more opts.

 

still, it was a goodfight and I look forward to fighting them in the future. I think some people are jut a bit highly strung - as is ever the case in almost every aftermath topic - about such things as flaming and bounds.

 

Who knows maybe next time we can beat Lgz guys in a matched war? :P

GL

(the last part was friendly batner, if you think it was a troll/flamebait/direct flame then I am sorry to inform you that you are sadly mistaken)

 

--Funny I said the same thing basically yet was taken as a troll. But me, I will not call you a troll because I have no problem debating.

p.s. <3: for Infi! and Cedar who throughout the entire damned war managed to bind - tank and snipe a beast; you must show me how to make food mid-war because your supply of Chovies seemed endless :o

 

p.p.s. sorry about typos, :D

 

edit: p.p.p.s: Adeelasim sounds like the name of a gay fruit.

 

Stuff in Red is me, was easier to respond since it was a rather larger portion to break down.

 

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Looks like LGZ totally outpreformed you lol, and those 5 people that apparently logged in l8 woulda made the difference,

 

as Ralph said: stop bickering about ur low lvls and stop thinking that the rules u think are the fair ones, if u ask for a +10000 every war, how is that fair for the other clan? lets say u fight a clan who pulls 20 and has a cb average of lets say 120?!

 

you declare full out on them and pull a good solid 50! were they pull 20? lets say the rules are all styles like in this war, who would win? the clan with 20 would have around lets say 10 binders/blasters and 10 rangers, you would have twice of everything, 25 binders/blasters and 25 rangers, look at the difference of K0 power? doesnt matter if u got low lvls, u got the #, sometimes that many numbers are just too hard to overcome no matter how much warring experience you have.

 

or are u expecting each of their tanks to be absolutly pro and gonna drag u 10 kills each? naw bro, not everyone is that good of a tank.

 

i suggest RM matches, thats where the real "superior warriors" show themselves, with everything even.. if ur scared of the cb average, get urs up and compete, frankly your opponent doesnt care if YOUR clan has fun or not

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As I can not be bothered to read all of your [cabbage], I will just say this:

We do not frankly care if our opponent has fun or not. Our real strength, our real "superior warriors", are seen when no limitations are made.

If you can't understand, I will simply say that the real strength of the clan is seen when his loyal members make it to a war and show their skills.

 

If you still failed to understand, basically it is obvious to everyone that a full out is the only way to check who's better.

To figure out whose better is debatable for ages so to argue with you is going to be like arguing with a wall. But here's my view on it and you can rage at me for it and get your plus one post count, sounds fair?

 

Okay no limitations, was there a range cap? (Honest question cbf to check declaration/op)

 

I agree with that part..

 

Wrong. Full out is not the only way to check who's better. MULTIPLE wars with different rules etc is the best way to tell whose better. Full out gives you many advantages if you out pull. So sorry to say your views are flawed, but I'm sure you will disagree. (this is where free post count comes in so enjoy it.)

And just one last thing:When it was 12 vrs 10, and the best warriors from both clans were left, we just swiped them.

 

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. You overlooked the other part of the war. Are you saying that you never hit those 10 "best warriors"? They never lost run? They never lost HP? They never lost Prayer? They never lost food?

 

While most of your 12 left probably were higher stocked, and out numbered by 2 still. SWIPER NO SWIPING

 

Anywayz hope you realized that you can't really compare 12 v 10 when stuff happened earlier in the war that affected them more than it affected your great 12 warriors.

 

Responded in red so it's easy.

 

Seriously nothing wrong with debating and showing you how I view things differently than you do. If you consider this a troll then I'm sorry but I haven't said TR is terrible or fake post or fake win or gratz LGZ. I hope you realize as well that you guys love trolls in your favor lol..maybe next time say no Trolls in LGZ favor allowed if you're going to quote trolls in your favor and say best post evar!

[Monkeyblazer]

Good job TR, don't listen to any excuses about number advantages, you and I both know the facts. In my opinion taking down 40 in an all-styles fight isn't that impressive, but gratz nonetheless.

 

 

Start talking again once you remember what a full out is.

 

Gratz on pulling 17. Exciting stuff.

[Tommmie]

lol ^ lol...hahahahahahahahahah...

 

 

GJ TR

 

 

BLNT...LGZ <3

 

 

i still think you guys shouldnt be all that happy u beat us....even though its your first in a while? maybe?

[PopplePure]

Great job to both clans!

 

Thx for the noteable mention lol.

[Romdath]

I have to agree with dandaman on one part. saying "inb4excuses" is an obvious flamebait.

+ basically you counter every reply that says LGZ outperformed, because you think its a troll, whereas it is nothing else than stating their opinions.

Nevertheless grats TR, was quite surprised, keep up the good stuff

[Mister_T]

Good job TR, don't listen to any excuses about number advantages, you and I both know the facts. In my opinion taking down 40 in an all-styles fight isn't that impressive, but gratz nonetheless.

 

 

Start talking again once you remember what a full out is.

 

Gratz on pulling 17. Exciting stuff.

??

Legendz pulls 40s to a full out but doesnt have an organization, t0 pulls 17 like you said but they actually have a pretty good organization.

So whats the point of pulling 40 when you're horrible?

[Janek19]

LMAO!

 

Well done TR.

[Shutai]

interesting all styles =p

 

but hey, grats TR :)

[Ralph]

Good job TR, don't listen to any excuses about number advantages, you and I both know the facts. In my opinion taking down 40 in an all-styles fight isn't that impressive, but gratz nonetheless.

 

 

Start talking again once you remember what a full out is.

 

Gratz on pulling 17. Exciting stuff.

This is your losing topic buddy, who are you trolling.

[LightSpeedPk]

Good job TR, don't listen to any excuses about number advantages, you and I both know the facts. In my opinion taking down 40 in an all-styles fight isn't that impressive, but gratz nonetheless.

 

 

Start talking again once you remember what a full out is.

 

Gratz on pulling 17. Exciting stuff.

??

Legendz pulls 40s to a full out but doesnt have an organization, t0 pulls 17 like you said but they actually have a pretty good organization.

So whats the point of pulling 40 when you're horrible?

 

its a lot easier to keep 17 people organized. when we have small wars theyre very organized infact. lately our organization has been a lot better so i know for sure you're looking at previous wars. ill admit we get some trial members with no experience but atleast we're getting people.