This is a quick question that I just thought of because of something that happened to me recently. I was wondering should a person be judged on his past, or be given the chance to redeem himself. I think a person should be able to redeem himself does anyone else agree?

Well I think that people should definately be able to redeem themselves. But when trying to trust someone you need to take their past into account and be cautious.

 

 

 

Of course it depends on the situation too

The past does not matter, because it is the present you are at now...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, no, no one should be judged on their past, but as Jackalope said, it can be taken into consideration when trusting someone.

In all bible teaching bla bla, you give people a chance as always.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So everyone have the right to redeem themselves and we all should treat them normaly since they've supposedly to be change:become a better person.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But....can people able to ignore your past and accept you as a new person?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe they should but whether they can do it is the issue.

I'm glad this is brining up a discussion i thought people would flame it as being spam lol

99.9% dependant on the situation. I would have to vaguely say yes, however. A person SHOULD DEFINITELY be judged on their past.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Man committs homicide. Man goes to jail. Man gets out. Man committs homicide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you telling me that if this guy had a great education and credentials, you would hire him for a job if his credentials were the best? You'd not judge this man by his past? For me, I wouldn't even allow him in my building. In life, for me its 2 major strikes and you're out. If you don't learn after your first major mistake, then its your loss. :?

i certainly hope not. :oops:

99.9% dependant on the situation. I would have to vaguely say yes, however. A person SHOULD DEFINITELY be judged on their past.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Man committs homicide. Man goes to jail. Man gets out. Man committs homicide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you telling me that if this guy had a great education and credentials, you would hire him for a job if his credentials were the best? You'd not judge this man by his past? For me, I wouldn't even allow him in my building. In life, for me its 2 major strikes and you're out. If you don't learn after your first major mistake, then its your loss. :?

 

 

 

Very true. All of it. Once shame on you, twice shame on me. They should learn that their actions have consequences, and even if they're the nicest person in the world, I'd still be uneasy around them.

 

 

 

But, in certain cases, the past can be put away. Sometimes, with age, people become wiser and their past is so miniscule, because maybe whatever they did happened like 30 years ago, and it doesn't seem as if they're of any threat at the present. But yeah, people shouldn't be judged by their past, only if the situation makes it matter.

I think you need to define what you mean by "judged." If a registered child sex offender moves in on my street, I'm not going to let my kids near him. Is that judging him or is that taking justified precaution?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If someone has been convicted for stealing from houses comes to visit from me, am I going to let them walk around my house alone? Of course not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But at the same time, I'm not going condemn anyone nor am I going to not befriend them. I will have no problem inviting someone who has a past of stealing over for dinner, I just won't let them be alone in my house. I would have no problem being nice to a registered sex offender and even having them over for dinner, but I won't let them around my kids at all at first - and never alone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What do you consider judging? I will forgive everyone and if I believe that have felt convicted and feel regret for what they've done then I will not treat them badly. But I will not forget there past...

Very true, Ghost.

99.9% dependant on the situation. I would have to vaguely say yes, however. A person SHOULD DEFINITELY be judged on their past.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Man committs homicide. Man goes to jail. Man gets out. Man committs homicide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you telling me that if this guy had a great education and credentials, you would hire him for a job if his credentials were the best? You'd not judge this man by his past? For me, I wouldn't even allow him in my building. In life, for me its 2 major strikes and you're out. If you don't learn after your first major mistake, then its your loss. :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But:

 

 

 

One could take it into consideration, and change the working enviornment, or make a job where this person cannot do any of the killing. You may not be trusting them, but your giving them a chance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: and placing them under some restrictions. I dotn belive in compleat jail at all (unless they enjoy it). As long as a person has some freedoms, i dont think yor passing compleat judgment.

I have to agree with everyone who mentioned it before, it depends on the situation. A person who had a drug problems, did jail and everything that comes with that, would probably have realised that it's not worth breaking the law for something as useless as drugs. So, for a case like that, I would forgive the person. Alot of people have went through that and came out ok, alot even ended up having a succesful life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, say for a person who did a small thing like betraying someone, I wouldn't think the same. Such a person may never have had to suffer for his or her actions and may actually be more likely to do that error again, thinking it an easy solution for a problem. And for some people, lying isn't something they do not understand, but something they do knowing all the consequences.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I could name hundreds of scenarios and all of their variations, each with a different conclusion. Whenever you think someone should be granted forgiveness, I think you should forgive them. But whether someone is worthy of it or not is an opinion that's most likely to change from person to person. Basicly, I think the point I was trying to make writing all this is that: a person's good judgement and his knowledge on the other's past are the things that make that particular individual capable of taking the right decision, the one that seems right to him anyway.

Of course - almost everything we do is based on past experience. If someone lies to you, you won't trust them next time - if someone doesn't give you something back that you lent to them, you'll be a little more wary of lending to them again. Going even further, if you burn a cake - you cook it for less time next try.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course people deserve a chance at redeeming themselves - and they should definately get a chance, since there is no past experience of them trying to redeem themselves. As soon as they "redeem" themselves, and betray trust again, then there is a past experience of them trying to redeem themselves... basically I believe in the 2 strikes and you're out rule ;) (I just made the rule up now...)

Of course - almost everything we do is based on past experience. If someone lies to you, you won't trust them next time - if someone doesn't give you something back that you lent to them, you'll be a little more wary of lending to them again. Going even further, if you burn a cake - you cook it for less time next try.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course people deserve a chance at redeeming themselves - and they should definately get a chance, since there is no past experience of them trying to redeem themselves. As soon as they "redeem" themselves, and betray trust again, then there is a past experience of them trying to redeem themselves... basically I believe in the 2 strikes and you're out rule ;) (I just made the rule up now...)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dotn think The USA and Britan new about that rule with hitler :x :cry:

Fact is that past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People should be given a chance to change... after all, people do give up smoking for example - it's just that out of all the times that smokers try to give up, the likelihood on each occasion is that they won't. So, give past-transgressors support, but don't expect miracles.

Good im glad i brought up this discussion and I did it because I had two friends who were quarelling over something related to this. Both of them told me about runescape and were my best friends. Lets call them Vman and Unreal. Unreal liked scamming people and lureing low lv players to death. When Vman learned of this he completly shunned him. I still kept my friendship with both of them and told Vman to give Unreal a chance at redeeming himself. However he wouldn't listen to me saying that horrible people like him don't know how to redeem themselves.

I agree with dusqi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I can honestly say that I am a prime example of people judging on the past :P

 

Of course - almost everything we do is based on past experience. If someone lies to you, you won't trust them next time - if someone doesn't give you something back that you lent to them, you'll be a little more wary of lending to them again. Going even further, if you burn a cake - you cook it for less time next try.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course people deserve a chance at redeeming themselves - and they should definately get a chance, since there is no past experience of them trying to redeem themselves. As soon as they "redeem" themselves, and betray trust again, then there is a past experience of them trying to redeem themselves... basically I believe in the 2 strikes and you're out rule ;) (I just made the rule up now...)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dotn think The USA and Britan new about that rule with hitler :x :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As others have said, it always depends on the situation. I don't think that a man who caused more than 6 million deaths just because of ethnic differences should be given a chance at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and I know you're joking (I hope) :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've done things in the past that I deeply regret. But those are minor enough to be forgotten. That statement differs in every situation.

Judging on someone's past is perfectly fair if the behavior was repeated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We learn by our mistakes, thus I believe that the behavior must be repeated often in order to be taken seriously.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, it greatly depends upon the situation.