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Seriously, It feels so dead in the mining guild nowdays, they're so many bots and usually only one other legit player to talk to. Of course I report all the bots, but there is just so damn many of them in EVERY world. To make things worse, many of them also have a wcing cape, now what does that say? (they bot wc obviously). I'm seeing players within all level ranges botting, upstart pures, medium level skillers, even extremely high levels. RAAAGGGEEEE.

Fix the bot detection system Jagex, ffs. It's just like anti-virus software, it becomes useless over time with no updates.

There's always going to be [wagon] programmers who think they're bad-ass making auto software and distributing it to lazy teens for free (or worse... a price).

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What the hell is up with all these bot topics? The mining guild fails, your fault for mining there.

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What the hell is up with all these bot topics? The mining guild fails, your fault for mining there.


For smelting steel/mithril/addy bars on the fly, it's the best place to be. Please don't assume I'm taking a lesser option by using the guild because it isn't.

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i dont see how people would want bots to do everything for them becuase wen your at the top it get pretty boring up there (not saying i am at the top) wen you wc you dont see yourself gain a level or anything like that all you see is an epic hard shell and hidden underneath that is a lazy person that doesnt want to do anything in life. i mean life is no where close to being able to have some one else for you to do it. so why do it on runescape?

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What the hell is up with all these bot topics? The mining guild fails, your fault for mining there.

and for your question. bots are becoming more and more. you start seeing them in lots of places. and sooner or later there gunna be at your favorite place. then what are you gunna do about it?
edit:when jagex stopped catchingbot or if not. people are gunna think its ok to use bots. then youll start seeing bots everywere. you would probably see 10 bots in any city you go to. and then what happens when they learn to play minigames. just one time you play a game that are all bots. theyll all be wc anywere and everywere, mining everywere, hunting at all places, killing all the monsters, then what will we do?
edit again: ya its kinda good that prices are so low
but what happens when everything is priced really low an other prices realy high
it would make it impossible for beginners to get any money cuz normal logs are 1gp like willow logs oak logs maple logs. the econmy could possibly go heywired
and if no one ever started botting we wouldnt have these discussoins

Edited by ihavedinner247, 07 June 2010 - 07:14 AM.

The once was a mexican called pepsi,
Or maybe it's just he had Hep C,
He was a pretty cool bro,
Bros generally are you know,
He hailed from the land of 'taters,
He was known to hate many-a-hater,
He likes a girl named Lacey,
His thoughts about her are kind of racy,
And also his dad likes to [rooster].


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Learn some damn grammar.

Sheesh. And yes, bots do take my spots, does that make me rage? Sure, until I trick them into logging out, not that hard. But I appreciate the lowered prices they bring, it rarely effects my skilling, since besides LRC and red chins, most of my skilling nets very low profit anyways.

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It's the fact that they get away with it so easily. Doesn't that bother you even just a little bit? Jagex should hit them now before everywhere becomes as rampant as the chaos tunnel green dragons.

btw, I don't think lowered prices/resource flooding would be too nice if you were the one trying to profit with the exact same method they were exploiting (which would be most if things get out of hand).

Also remember that you yourself do not represent the opinion of the majority when it comes to dealing with bots. Most people are completely oblivious to it.

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Its their life, I'm choosing not to bot. If anything, it's my loss. The only reason I don't bot, is because I won't have the same feeling of achievement, I imagine.

As stated, most things bots do I don't.

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Mining: LRC. Not affected
Wc'ing: Ivy. Not really affected
Fishing: Monks. Not affected
Hunter: Red chins, yes affected, though I'll be doing butterflies from now on.
Thats it, right? idk. However, skills like Prayer, etc. are effected positively.

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Bots are capable of a lot more than just gathering (though it is the most popular, because most legit gatherers are zombies anyway :razz: , thus can quite easily evade detection). Masses of people are gaining an unfair advantage.

Its their life, I'm choosing not to bot. If anything, it's my loss. The only reason I don't bot, is because I won't have the same feeling of achievement, I imagine.

"my loss?" ..."That's the only reason I don't bot"...?
You should probably reconsider how you phrase your words. It sounded like you just endorsed botting, that it is the smart thing to do...?

Reasons why not to bot:
- risk to account
- hollow achievement (tick)
- disregard for other players economically
- dsregard for other players socially
- reputation

So you're totally cool with everything else?

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The flaw with Jagex's detection system atm is that it fails to pick up bots that are online for less than ~12 hours a day. Though will quite consistently catch bots who are on 24/7.

People are making upwards of 2mil a day with zero effort, 14mil a week, 56mil a month. There is nothing about what I just said that is OK in any way.

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Bots are capable of a lot more than just gathering. Masses of people are gaining an unfair advantage.

Its their life, I'm choosing not to bot. If anything, it's my loss. The only reason I don't bot, is because I won't have the same feeling of achievement, I imagine.

"my loss?" ..."That's the only reason I don't bot"...?
You should probably reconsider how you phrase your words. It sounded like you just endorsed botting, that it is the smart thing to do...?


Is that a threat? lol?

Isn't the only reason people don't do illegal things? I'd rob a bank any day, but I don't want to go to jail.

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What the hell is up with all these bot topics? The mining guild fails, your fault for mining there.


The "hell" with these topics is that it's becoming more of a problem. It is also not his fault for mining at a guild, what training methods people use are up to them and them alone.

Anyway...

I've seen quite a few bots at the green dragons in the chaos tunnels, and I'm sure at Ivy woodcutting spots as well. It seems Jagex are trying to avoid the bot situation too. I've been hearing stories of bots getting away with only 24 hour bans. To me that's like a slap in the face for those who play by the rules and don't cheat. I think if you use any cheat/bot, no matter how long for, you should be permanently banned.
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No what I mean is, the sudden surge in the past few days, ever since the falconry botter topic in gen disc. I just hate people who get engorged in fad-esque topics like this. Soon, no one will care about bots, and will rant about how lvl 3 skillers wear stupid flowers. I'm merely playing the Devil's advocate.

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No what I mean is, the sudden surge in the past few days, ever since the falconry botter topic in gen disc. I just hate people who get engorged in fad-esque topics like this. Soon, no one will care about bots, and will rant about how lvl 3 skillers wear stupid flowers. I'm merely playing the Devil's advocate.


Ok, you just said you hate me based on false assumptions... whatever

1. I have not been reading other topics about bots, this is purely from my experience
2. "soon no-one will care about bots", You are wrong, unless Jagex does something about it
3. Past few days? Hello! the issue has been up quite a bit longer than that.
4. Lets ignore the lion in the room a little while longer, I'm sure things will turn out great. Why don't you tease it with some raw steak while you're at it.

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No what I mean is, the sudden surge in the past few days, ever since the falconry botter topic in gen disc. I just hate people who get engorged in fad-esque topics like this. Soon, no one will care about bots, and will rant about how lvl 3 skillers wear stupid flowers. I'm merely playing the Devil's advocate.


Ok, you just said you hate me based on false assumptions... whatever

1. I have not been reading other topics about bots, this is purely from my experience
2. "soon no-one will care about bots", You are wrong, unless Jagex does something about it
3. Past few days? Hello! the issue has been up quite a bit longer than that.



1) Never said it wasn't, I meant PEOPLE in general, I guess I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.
2) I am right. You're looking at the extreme, people will always care, but it will die down to a very dull roar.
3) HI :) Have you seen the 3 topics in rants (including yours) plus the countless CC talk?

I've been playing since 2001, and am more aware of the problem than I let on. As stated, I'm simply playing the devil's advocate.

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Then you are essentially denying something that is bound to get worse for the sake of denying it.

True that legit players have no control over this, should we just give up drawing attention to this? Well, it probably/admittedly wont make any difference in the long run, but that's no reason to accept that cheaters are roaming free.

It's threads like this that make (some) people feel guilty for botting.

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Nope. However, I have realized based on past experiences with Jagflex that us whining will solve nothing. So I might as well try and spark interesting debates, which isn't really working. L.


Anyways, I'm going to beddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd. i'm tired as hell.

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I'm not ranting to spark debate, there is no other decent side to argue. Bots should be shunned, banned, destroyed, not ignored/deemed insignificant or even benefitial. I'm annoyed and want to spread my word. As mentioned before, many are unaware of bots.

On a side note:

3 topics in rants (including yours) plus the countless CC talk?


That hardly classifies as a 'fad'. Complaining that Dungeoneering should be a minigame was a fad. There's some bigots who still do it.

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What the hell is up with all these bot topics? The mining guild fails, your fault for mining there.

Even thought you think botting is okay, it is not.
Even thought botting doesnt affect you negatively, it affects us.

The problem is there.

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I like the bots that lower the prices of raw materials. Makes buyables much more profitable. :wub:

Then again, doom for people who train mining/wc/fishing.

I guess most bots are harmful, like the ones in the mining guild, but there needs to be more rune/pure ess bots. Srsly.

And mining guild is excellent for F2P, even more with the coal bag.

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Making topics about bots is not a fad, it's the result of frustrated players and the effect bots have on them.

Jagex needs to deal with this issue before it becomes widely accepted and a common practice. What we are facing is RS becoming known as Botscape and a joke in the industry.


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