How2PK Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 I regularly vissit the 'arthouse' theater, and I never really see much people posting about this type of movies. I was wondering, don't you ever see these movies? You're not interested in them (if so why?)? You don't know the titles? What is it that so less people on these forum see them> Discuss, ask and w/e here in this topic. Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticux Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 In english please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azvareth Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 In english please? Wit? I understood him perfectly fine. Sad really how some people are prepared to sink so low just to make others feel bad. Daan, I'm not sure everybody knows what an arthouse movie is (well, I don't :P ), so perhaps you could explain what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Putter Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 Arthouse is like those foreign/indie/low-budget films that you never here about on TV, and is considered (atleast by the people who view them) to be upper-class, high-culture films, and then they discuss it. It includes a lot more imagery, and expression, while having (usually) lesser amounts of story (though not always). This interests me slightly, except that with such low budget's often the movie makers cannot portray their true ideas, because they simply don't have the money. However, this is also good, because it prevents high-budget-no-thinking films to be made. I've seen very few arthouse movies, normally old-school ones that they show on TV, as the closest arthouse theatre as far as I know is a town over, and the only rental place (that also has regular movies) is across town, and I can't drive, and also have not that much interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azvareth Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 Ahh okay. I don't even know if we have that over here in Sweden. I've never heard of it before, but it sounds interesting. Might have to look into this a bit, maybe there are arthouse theatres here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted November 27, 2005 Author Share Posted November 27, 2005 Ahh okay. I don't even know if we have that over here in Sweden. I've never heard of it before, but it sounds interesting. Might have to look into this a bit, maybe there are arthouse theatres here. Of course you've got that in Sweden. One of the main styles halfway the 90's for European and foreign movies are done by the rules set by Scandinavians. :) Will explain later, going to my grandma now. Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futurama Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 sadly there isnt a theatre for miles around here, but we do have a b-movie channel on cable :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 Does Life Aquatic count? That's probably the most arthousy style film i've seen. I really enjoyed it actually, but that might of just been the film. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjerry Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 well known arthouse titles are: amelie, un long dimanche de fiancailles, memento, mar adentro, ameros perros etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticux Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 In english please?Daan, I'm not sure everybody knows what an arthouse movie is (well, I don't :P ), so perhaps you could explain what it is? Hence asking for it in english........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 no theatres around here play them, and no one around here talks about them. the only way for me to watch them is download them or buy them over the net. and sometimes its hard to find either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 In english please?Daan, I'm not sure everybody knows what an arthouse movie is (well, I don't :P ), so perhaps you could explain what it is? Hence asking for it in english........ Arthouse is the English word for it. So you're still being stupid, really. See http://www.google.com/search?q=define:arthouse Anywho. I've seen Am̮̩̉̉lie, and still have to see Memento in full. I've also seen Lola rennt, I believe (quite some time ago), and the thing about people in Russia which I can't remember the name of. Something with Lenin, I think? @How2pk: We talked about it recently, I think... I said I didn't really like that one :P I'm a fan of Am̮̩̉̉lie, though, but I don't generally visit the arthouse cinema's. Tend to see them later on, when they're out on dvd. We saw Am̮̩̉̉lie with school, just like the other films, really. We also saw Jean de Florette and part of Manon de Sources in French class, they were rather good (maybe I should say 'it was rather good', since they're two parts of the story that got split up into two movies because the director didn't want to cut anything out and thought that 4 hours would be too long for any cinema audience :) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticux Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 In english please?Daan, I'm not sure everybody knows what an arthouse movie is (well, I don't :P ), so perhaps you could explain what it is? Hence asking for it in english........ Arthouse is the English word for it. So you're still being stupid, really. See http://www.google.com/search?q=define:arthouse I didn't mean it literally, his grammar's all outta place aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 I didn't mean it literally, his grammar's all outta place aswell. um, why do you post in small print? its almost as annoying as posting in a different color. and his first language isnt english, so give him a break. he probably knows it better than i do, and its the only language i speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticux Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 I didn't mean it literally, his grammar's all outta place aswell. um, why do you post in small print? its almost as annoying as posting in a different color. Cause I can and I like it? and his first language isnt english, so give him a break. he probably knows it better than i do, and its the only language i speak. And I was to know this because..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 Cause I can and I like it? And I was to know this because..? you can go around calling everyone you want an idiot, but then everyone would think you are an a-hole. you can type in small print, but its pointless and its annoying. you werent supposed to know it, that is just why his grammar may not have been perfect. and it wasnt hard to understand at all, the only grammar mistake i see is he said "less" instead of "few". and arent you supposed to be banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 Since some users on this forum are having troubles with my grammar, I used wikipedia for artfilm, so everybody knows what we are on about. Art film is a film genre that began as a European reaction to the Hollywood style of film making. Art film provides similar kinds of cinematic illusion that one finds in classical Hollywood, but by loosening the ties between its style and narrative concerns, it allows for increased subjective realism and authorial expressivity. Less concern for causal narrative structure In the classical Hollywood form, film style is dictated by narrative. Everything that happens or is portrayed in a classical film is supposed to advance the narrative forward. All characters that are introduced are causal agents in the narrative, and classical films are filled with redundant images, verbal expressions, or symbols to get the message across to the viewer. This can be viewed as an artificial construction of reality, since nothing will be included in the film that does not clearly help the viewer understand what is going on. Art film rejects this as unrealistic, and attempts to portray real life situations and characters where things happen that do not always have a clear meaning or purpose, but instead are vague and even mysterious. Therefore, art film does not worry about clearly explaining how everything fits together. Any causal gaps that appear in the narrative of art film are often permanent. Ambiguity Because art films do not always have to explain themselves, they will often have episodic plots or wandering episodes, where a character might wander off, encounter something, do something, or say something for no clear reason, and no definite explanation will ever be provided in the film. Instead, things remain ambiguous to the very end. This presents a challenge to most viewers who are accustomed to the classical style, because loose ends are not all tied up in the final scene of the art film, as opposed to classical Hollywood films which have strong closure. Art film is less about pure escapist entertainment compared with the classical system, also adding to the challenge for the viewer. Objective and subjective realism The art film deals with realistic social problems in both objective and subjective ways. Classical Hollywood films are also able to portray social issues, but only within the bounds of the narrative, and therefore social issues are looked at only from the outside, objectively. But unlike classical Hollywood, art film is considered to be more effective at portraying its characters as more true to life, because their inner psychological state is portrayed with more subjective realism. Therefore, the characters are complex, and their behaviour as well as their relationships cannot be easily understood. Authorial expressivity Because art film is not dictated by narrative concerns, there is more freedom for authorial expressivity. The film maker can express their own style or peculiarities more freely. For this reason, it is easy to recognize the makers of art films as auteurs. Is this better for you, Atticux? Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticux Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Cause I can and I like it? And I was to know this because..? you can go around calling everyone you want an idiot, but then everyone would think you are an a-hole. you can type in small print, but its pointless and its annoying. I didn't call him an idiot and 'small print' or as I like to call it 'size 9 font' isn't pointless and annoying to me, so I use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I didn't call him an idiot and 'small print' or as I like to call it 'size 9 font' isn't pointless and annoying to me, so I use it. the idiot part was an example. calling people idiots is cool, neither is using "size 9 font". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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