Ye Olde Hegemony

[Seraphi]

I'm keeping everything inside Burgandy until I know what the plague is capable of.

 

Retech, how much will each [Classified: Project Scorpio] cost?

[Retech]

For these kind of things, I assume that there are some with every decently sized army (that isn't like two hundred soldiers infiltrating a castle by night or something), scaling up with the size of the engagement. So assuming that they can get there, then most likely you will have them factored into the engagement.

 

Also, the plague will not damage your armies because it would make it too confusing, but moving armies generally helps spread plague, reducing economy and causing unrest.

[Retech]

My plan stays the same, the army is to take whatever ground is most favorable at the time. The 6,000 unique units act as a general border patrol in front of the main army.

 

Are the plans the same as the "updated plans" post from July 1st, except with the unique units and the cataphracts?

[Nexaduro]

LISTEN UP! 20,000 TROOPS WITH WAR ELEPHANTS FROM PERSIA, 15,000 TROOPS COMING FROM MONGOLIA TO REINFORCE THE MONGOLS.

 

We need to intercept these armies before they reach the main force, or else THE MONGOLS WILL NUMBER 70,000!

 

I've probably got the Mongolian reinforcements under control, but we need to cut off the war elephants or else we're doomed. We need Archi's help, he has albino rats that could be used to frighten the elephants, and we need heavy weaponry to take them out.

 

ROSS, THIS IS WHEN YOU SHOULD BE USING SCORPIO.

[Grim_]

Damm... Doom if we could ask your help? Oh and to kill war elephants build a [cabbage] tonne of siege weaponry (I'm assuming that they will not move as fast as a horse) and use flaming arrows (just because)

[Grim_]

Wait.... would not elephants need a [cabbage] tonne of water and or food to survive? I would wager that 20,000 of them would not be able to be supported by the land either; so would it not make sense to use either nex's or my unique unit to stop 'em in their tracks by destroying the food supply for the beasts?

[Retech]

Twenty thousand soldiers WITH war elephants. Not twenty thousand war elephants. An army that large could only be supported in the older days of the Indian Monarchs.

[Nero]

20,000 troops with war elephants, not 20,000 war elephants lmao

 

edit: [bleep]in ninjas, how do they work?

 

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whatever money is left over from this half decade's budget goes into infrastructure, which should put me at 1.15 or so.

[Icuownage]

OOOOOOKAYYYYY PM IMBOUND

 

[cabbage] JUST GOT REAL!!!!

 

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.

[Grim_]

OOOOOOKAYYYYY PM IMBOUND

 

[cabbage] JUST GOT REAL!!!!

 

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.

EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL NEED TO STEER.

[Nero]

*shrug* If they're coming from Persia then they're going to attack Mather in North Africa. Doom, if they come for you just sit your navy in the Bosporus and they won't be able to cross, especially not with elephants.

 

In other news, Spain continues to be Spain. If anything tries to cross the Gibraltar straits it's attacked with my navy. Because [bleep] the barbary coast.

[Retech]

Mongolian Invasion of Europe - Great Gate of Kiev

 

A small portion of the Mongolian forces entered the Principality of Kiev in a dash to the capital, intent on reaching the capital city and burning it to the ground before the main forces of Kiev returned from their random trek in the wilderness of Mongolia. After leaving a trail of destruction, the force of five thousand calvery archers and two thousand light lancers finally reached the outskirts of the city. They had ridden hard and left their siege weapons behind. The weapons were transported by wagon, which allowed the horses to trot, but the Mongols needed a gallop at the very least.

 

Unfortunately, the Great Gates of Kiev would be impenetrable when closed to an unprepared raiding party, but it was darkness, and the Mongolian commander expected his force to sneak into the city. However, the French spies in the region had informed the Kievan governor to expect trouble, though the Mongolians did not know. As they approached the city in separate groups and at a trot, to not alarm the defenders, the governor gave the signal. Huge piles of wood in massive metal braziers were lit, causing the gate to flash brightly, revealing the stealthed Mongols.

 

Immediately the militia crossbowmen tasked to defend the wall rose up from their crouching positions, causing the Mongol raiding party to turn and flee.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rVci4h8TkM

 

Mongolian Invasion of Europe - The Hungarian Exodus

 

Five thousand Mongolian Horse archers and five thousand light lancers rode into Hungary. Their orders were not to engage the Bulgarians, but instead begin the destruction of the entire Hungarian identity. The forces were well versed in warfare, and split up into a hundred groups of a hundred horsemen, spreading through the country. Even the Bulgarian Myrmidons and the Icelanding Hlaupari were not prepared for such a fast attack, so soon after the Mongolian disappointment at the Battle of the Mountain Passes. Several groups of Mongols even rode into Budapest in the night, setting houses on fire, and killing plague workers.

 

The Mongols were not even engaged in combat, yet they killed over a hundred thousand people over the course of several nights. The Hungarian situation has turned to panic, and its people have begun exiting the country in large packs, heading westward.

 

^

 

And I leave you with this short prelude to the main Mongolian invasion, allowing you to see the steak and smell the aroma. I will be posting the main meat of the message within twenty minutes.

[Retech]

Also I'm waiting for Icu to give me his plans. :thumbup:

[Nexaduro]

Eh, good luck with him arriving. If the Mongols get that far Europe is screwed anyways.

[Retech]

Oh, I've already calculated that they don't get that far.

 

 

However, if he sends any troops to help, then maybe he would turn the tide of battle earlier rather than later.

[Icuownage]

My plan isn't fool proof, and it will probably fail as I was literally making it up as I went along.

 

But I have to QUICKLY ADD SOMETHING.

[Retech]

Mongolian Invasion of Europe - The Lone Wolf

 

The main Mongolian horde pressed forward into Poland, moving through the Turkish tribal areas. Despite the best efforts of the Icelandic Hlaupari, the reinforcement forces had traveled through steppe terrain the entire journey, making it almost impossible for the Hlaupari to gain any decent fighting chances. Meanwhile the Persian consort had reached the tribal areas, and was playing catch up to the faster Mongolians. Unlike the earlier battle in the mountanous passages, some of the Persian empire had always occupied the mountains. They were less fearsome than the Mongols, allowing them to befriend the locals, who led the army secretly on an unknown mountain path, passing the Hlaupari blockade. The river through the mountains was lower due to seasonal fluctuations, and the Persians crossed with no trouble.

 

The Polish had been preparing for the invasion for years, and had a massive army and extensive fortifications to show. It had constructed a citadel on the lower half of a mountain chain, filled with ditches and stakes to impede the Mongolian invaders. Unfortunately the primary portion of the Polish army was javalin calvery and armored knights, meaning that an open field engagement would always be preferable. The Polish King and commander of the forces, King Lazlo the Second, decided to build fortifications on the crest of a hill in the shadow of the citadel, to allow his calvery greater mobility. The hill had no distinguishable features, except that it was a slope gentle enough for his calvery to ride down, yet steep enough to impede enemy calvery.

 

The Polish army was formed from every resource of the country, and was the first and last line of defence against the Mongolian threat. It consisted of five thousand knights, as well as five thousand Polish nobles, landowners with noble backgrounds who wielded javalins and swords, allowing versatility. The bulk of the army was fourty thousand Polish spearmen, which were heavily armored for a spearmen and trained for several months. Another twenty thousand woodsmen from the back country had been gathered, wielding their woodcutting two handed axes as weapons, though they were poorly armored. Twenty thousand peasant archers brought up the rear as well.

 

The Mongolian army was marginally smaller, better equipped, better trained, and led by the general with the best track record in modern history. His name was Subutai, and his army had racked up over a million kills (including civilians), while losing less than a hundred thousand (including civilians travelling with said army). It included thirty thousand Mongolian horse archers, five thousand light lancers, and five thousand heavy lancers. Their vassal, the Persians, were bringing fifteen thousand desert spearmen, five thousand Immoratals (desert calvery with scimitars), and five hundred war elephants.

 

The battle began with the exchange of siege weapon fire. The barrages by both sides were inconclusive. The Mongols had spread their forces out, and the height of the Polish prevented the Mongolian fire spitters from hitting their targets with any meaningful accuracy. However, the Mongolian forces began moving westward, attempting to either separate the citadel from the rest of the country or to bypass the army entirely and ravage the defenceless Polish lands.

 

This forced Lazlo's hand immediately. Five thousand Polish nobles swiftly attacked the Mongolian flank, which was now facing the citadel. Their javalins at close range took great effect, killing four thousand Mongolian horse archers. Subutai ordered his men to split in the middle, before the light lancers swung around and charged at the nobles headlong. Lazlo hesitated, before ordering twenty thousand of his spearmen to assist the nobles. The running spearmen were easy targets for the Mongolian horse archers as they ran down the hill. When they finally arrived at the battle, the Mongolians had split their forces again, leaving the Polish nobles and the spearmen in between two walls of Mongolian horse archers. Lazlo immediately ordered his knights to flank the exposed Mongols. Immediately the remainder of the spearmen and the woodsmen on the hill began breaking ranks and charging as well. Lazlo quickly ordered his archers to fire at will, before charging down the join his foot soldiers in the fray.

 

Subatai was surprised by the sudden-ness of the strike, and struggled in vain to pull his troops away. A lone horse archer could easily take on a lone woodsmen, but he was not prepared to take such casualties. Meanwhile his five thousand heavy lancers had met the Polish knights, and they traded blows with neither force gaining headway.

 

Subatai prepared to sound the retreat, but things began looking up. The Persians had arrived on the battlefield, and immediately used their forces in the battle. The five thousand immortals, dressed in fearsome black cloaks and turbans, threw the peasant archers into disarray, killing or capturing most of them. More importantly, they followed them into the citadel and closed the gates, preventing the Poles from retreating. Secondly, the five hundred war elephants had no counter among the Polish forces and mercilessly smashed through the mass of foot soldiers, while archers mounted atop fired volleys of arrows at them. The expert elephant handlers carefully manuevered their beasts through the battle, avoiding the Mongolian forces.

 

Finally, the Polish King was knocked off his horse by an arrow. As he got up, he was repeatedly stomped by an elephant, before being tusked through the chest. As his grisly remains were paraded through the battlefield, the Poles broke and fled, where they were slaughtered. The Kingdom fell within a matter of days, as the Mongols consolidated their new gains.

 

Casualties:

10,000 Mongolian Horse Archers

5,000 Desert Spearmen

4,000 Light Lancers

2,500 Heavy Lancers

 

Entire Polish army

 

 

Result: Crushing Victory for the Mongols

 

 

 

 

I have to go to sleep, but I will post a nice map tomorrow with the changes.

[Icuownage]

Sorry guys, submitted my plans a little too late.

[Seraphi]

Er... What did I miss?

[Grim_]

Ah well with the turn of the new decade I should be able to field 16-18,000 myrmidons (essentially nex's unique unit but slightly different [in armament and they have a [cabbage] load of weapons training]) So if we could (nex and myself using our unique units) catch them between the hammer and the anvil so to speak we could crush them.

[Nexaduro]

Rocco, that was 90,000 Polish troops. Against 65,000, which wasn't as many troops as expected. More than a third of the Mongols were killed, but this is only the beginning.

 

Hmph. And where was this damned "Great Kievan Army" I've been hearing so much about? So far, they've done absolutely nothing. With 5,000 troops, I got a better killcount than... what, 60,000, 70,000 soldiers?

[Nexaduro]

Really? What arnament do your Myrmidons possess? How much do they cost?

 

I want to hear about it in a PM, if not here, so I know how to best use my Hlaupari in concert with them.

[Grim_]

How many rocco? Also how many of your unique units do you have nex? (as a side note the bulk of the mongol army will be slowed down slightly by these non cavalry reinforcements)

[Nexaduro]

Same with Rocco.

 

EDIT: 10,000 this year, 11,000 the next.

[Grim_]

Rocco if I could give some advice; Stock up with siege weapons along your borders (think ballista [i doubt catapults would be as effective for use against war elephants]) to be used against the war elephants. I have a feeling that the war elephants may just give a bit of a psychological advantage to the mongols and the persians.