mage slaying

[SirIzenhime]

Ok, so I recently got an Arcane Stream necklace and wish to start working on my mage mainly via slayer (since it's my favorite thing to do)

 

Now, I have a SOL, Arcane, ahrims, infinity boots, unholy book. I plan on using Fire Surge (unless any other spells are more worth using considering time and money)

 

My main question is, what are good tasks to mage where I would often break even or profit. Some obvious ones I've already got are Abyssal demons, blue steel and iron dragons, and ice strykes. Are there any other tasks that are good to mage where I would usually profit?

[Blutters]

I use Slayer Dart, and profited on Black Dragons. Really, I would recommend going with Slayer Dart first to any tasks you're not sure you will profit on, because last I checked Fire Surge costs 2x as much. It seems like you would profit on Fire Giants, because they're weak to all styles, but you might try Water Surge (or Wave) there. You will most definitely profit on Warped Tortoises. Hell lol you could probably barrage those and still profit...

 

And I will try Ice Barraging my Nechryael task soon to see about that. Please note that supposedly only the main target in area spells has your damage bonuses applied to it.

 

Both of the other two Strykewyrm variants seem highly resistant to Magic attacks.

[MstrMonopoly]

Nechryaels are if nothing else terrific xp and will probably cost less than other barraging methods because of increased rune boots.

[la la la]

Gargoyles are another big one... You can safespot them in kuradal's dungeon with the quick kill unlocked. I blocked nechryaels after half a task of fire surging :mrgreen:

[xpx]

I wouldn't bother unless you really have to. Reason? for ice strykewyrms, for which fire surge has 2x damage, the slayer xp you get hourly is as near as makes no differance the same as you would get while slaying with a chaotic rapier(both are around 40k slayer xp an hour), so for any other task the xp you'd get, assuming you don't safespot(since it would slow you down even more) you get around 2x less slayer xp for most tasks except for perhaps iron, steel and mithril dragons. This is assuming maxed bonuses fo both of these classes(ovl/turm/cr vs. ASN/SOL/ovl/def mage). And i'm not even going into the discussion of cost....uhh.

[SirIzenhime]

i'm not looking for slayer xp...i'm looking for magic xp..... :unsure:

 

I also can't imagine gargoyles being very good unless I get like...3 mauls during a task.... :unsure:

[xpx]

Well if you are looking for mage xp then there are loads of other methods that would work better, like for example barraging skeletons or noncombat spells. I think if you break it down with magic slaying on one hand and melee slaying+ barraging skeletons on the other, the second one would propably win in cost and speed for magic, while being a bit less slayer xp. Not too sure on it, but some estimated calculations would say so(assuming CR for slayer).

[Aiel]

you could solo rex for dag tasks.

 

 

 

Well if you are looking for mage xp then there are loads of other methods that would work better, like for example barraging skeletons or noncombat spells. I think if you break it down with magic slaying on one hand and melee slaying+ barraging skeletons on the other, the second one would propably win in cost and speed for magic, while being a bit less slayer xp. Not too sure on it, but some estimated calculations would say so(assuming CR for slayer).

he's mage slaying because he enjoys it stfu about efficancy.

[SirIzenhime]

well, I enjoy slayer so honestly, the longer it takes the better (within reason of course :P), not necessarily going for speed, just want to do something fun that won't cost a lot, so I'm looking for good mage tasks

[Cptbaker08]

I've been mage slaying a lot, at least my last 5 magic levels. Those you listed are very good to mage. Don't forget to use a Wolpertinger on tasks where you don't need healing or inventory spots. Gargs are a good task like that.

 

A long with the tasks you listed I also mage Greater Demons, Iron and Steel dragons, and barraged Nechs. You can also use spells on Black Demons but profiting depends on the drops. Qeltar has a guide to maging Mith Dragons on runescoop. I plan on maging my Dust Devil task so I'll let you know how it turns out.

 

The few tasks I don't mage I usually range, cannon, or melee.

 

As for using Magic Dart instead due to it costing half the price, it also maxes a lot lower and it gives lower exp compared to Fire Surge. If you farm herbs and do MTK then spending money on the best spell shouldn't be much of a problem.

[xpx]

you could solo rex for dag tasks.

 

 

 

Well if you are looking for mage xp then there are loads of other methods that would work better, like for example barraging skeletons or noncombat spells. I think if you break it down with magic slaying on one hand and melee slaying+ barraging skeletons on the other, the second one would propably win in cost and speed for magic, while being a bit less slayer xp. Not too sure on it, but some estimated calculations would say so(assuming CR for slayer).

he's mage slaying because he enjoys it stfu about efficancy.

You do know what the help and advice forum is for? Acting as a 5 year old when someone gives other people good advice is not it. Telling me to shut the [bleep] up shows your immaturity, not how helpful either of us can be. Most of the people coming to these forums are looking for efficency so it's his fault he hasn't worded his questions well enough and it's his choice weather he wants to take my advice or not, afterall, it's his time being used.

 

So to take this into perspective: the only boarderline effective task for mage slaying is ice strykewyrms, with all other tasks being ineffective in terms of profit and experience, so the most efficient thing to do would just be getting it done with as fast as possible, maging all tasks. It doesn't matter if you mage abyssals and melee greaters or the other way around since the money you will lost will average out to be the same(since you'd be getting the same drops anyway), the only thing that differs is the profit from a single seperate task.

[SirIzenhime]

thanks for blaming it on me.... <_<

 

My question was which tasks I could mage while breaking even or profiting....how much more specific can I get on that :unsure:

[xpx]

thanks for blaming it on me.... <_<

 

My question was which tasks I could mage while breaking even or profiting....how much more specific can I get on that :unsure:

Does it really matter to break even on an abyssal task and then melee 2 gargoyle tasks, or to do it all the other way around? You'd be getting the same drops anyway, the only thing that changes is mage def, which is low for most of the slayer creatures. Breaking even on a single task is pointless since you'd be losing money on it anyway, so the best idea is to actually mage the tasks for which you hit the best, not those which have good drops. This is the concept alot of people fail about averages.

[SirIzenhime]

would you screw the efficiency and answer the question....it's not like I'm looking to ONLY mage tasks, I just want to do it for fun, but don't feel like maging something that has no return in profits....it just feels better to mage something and make money I guess.

 

Efficient or not....which slayer tasks can I mage and profit from?

[NastyJenny]

I think you have them all.

 

Good to mage at a sure loss are greaters and Gargoyles, burst/barrage nechs... If others have decent mageables tasks let know lol. I hate alching and all that stuff too.

[xpx]

would you screw the efficiency and answer the question....it's not like I'm looking to ONLY mage tasks, I just want to do it for fun, but don't feel like maging something that has no return in profits....it just feels better to mage something and make money I guess.

 

Efficient or not....which slayer tasks can I mage and profit from?

You are asking the wrong question, efficency or no efficency. You want to lose as little money as possible while mage slaying, but are looking at it from the wrong perspective. The money you make while mage slaying the good droppers will equal out with the money you don't make while killing the bad droppers, and if the good droppers are more resistant to magic than the bad droppers, you are actually losing money doing so. So what would i suggest you do? Unless you can only get those tasks meantioned on this thread that make money while mage slaying(though i'd say there are only 2, abbys and ice strykes, atleast with surge) the best way would be to mage slay the monsters with little mage defence and melee the others, since as an aveage, it'll cost you less and you'll get more mage xp, but ofcource, it's completely up to you. If asking for advice, giving the best advice available should be the goal, and you just can't look past efficency then. Unless that, you answered your question in the first post.

[SirIzenhime]

Ok....below is a list of all the monsters Kurdal assigns. Let's assume I'm NOT training slayer, and just looking for a monster to mage that Breaks even or profits. From this list....which monsters will I not loose money on if I were to camp them using Fire Surge(Ice barrage where applicable. (ignore the fact you can't camp Strykewyrms)

 

Aberrant spectres

Abyssal demons

Black demons

Chaos Tunnels

Black dragons

Bloodvelds

Blue dragons

Dagannoths

Dark beasts

Desert strykewyrms

Dust devils

Fire giants

Gargoyles

Greater demons

Hellhounds

Ice strykewyrms

Iron dragons

Jungle strykewyrms

Kalphites

Living rock creatures

Mithril dragons

Nechryael

Skeletal wyverns

Spiritual mages

Steel dragons

Suqahs

Terror dogs

TzHaar volcanic creatures

Warped tortoises

Waterfiends

[Cptbaker08]

Ok....below is a list of all the monsters Kurdal assigns. Let's assume I'm NOT training slayer, and just looking for a monster to mage that Breaks even or profits. From this list....which monsters will I not loose money on if I were to camp them using Fire Surge(Ice barrage where applicable. (ignore the fact you can't camp Strykewyrms)

 

Aberrant spectres

If you were to try you might be able to make profit, but idk how well you can mage them.

Abyssal demons

One of the best ones to Mage.

Black demons

Easy to mage due to their weakness, but small chance at profit.

Black dragons

Hard to mage due to them being leather dragons. Might be able to profit depend on how well you will hit.

Bloodvelds

Wouldn't know as I only ever cannon them.

Blue dragons

Mostly the same as Black Drags, but easier to kill.

Dagannoths

Mage Rex for task and you will surely profit.

Dark beasts

Same as Bloodvelds.

Desert strykewyrms

Idk much about them, depends on how often they drop focus sights.

Dust devils

Fire Surging them right now, can easily 2-3 hit them. Profit depends on how often u get good drops, and weather or not u get a D Chain. I plan on trying to Barrage these some time later

Fire giants

Water surging might be better, profit could happen but depends on drops.

Gargoyles

Like most other tasks, depends on drops. But are easily 2-3 hitted like Dusties.

Greater demons

Like Black Demons, but easier to kill.

Hellhounds

Hahahaha, I think you can figure this out.

Ice strykewyrms

Best task to mage.

Iron dragons

Easily maged, I profited when I was using CoG on them. Might do the same with fire surge if you get a dragon drop or 2.

Jungle strykewyrms

Same as desert strykewyrms.

Kalphites

Same as hellhounds.

Living rock creatures

Most likely terrible.

Mithril dragons

Qeltar did some research on these. There is a guide on runescoop.

Nechryael

On average I use almost 1k ice barrage cast, and make any where from 300-600k. Slight loss, but can be a quick task.

Skeletal wyverns

Heard these were ok to mage. Might break even on bones.

Spiritual mages

Wouldn't try it.

Steel dragons

Like Irons but probably less profit, if there is any.

Suqahs

Wouldn't try it.

Terror dogs

Wouldn't try it.

TzHaar volcanic creatures

Wouldn't try it.

Warped tortoises

Never had as a task.

Waterfiends

Wouldn't try it.

 

Answers in italics. I will let you know about some tasks once i get a chance to mage them, such as Black Dragons.

[Obtaurian]

I mage-slayed from 89-96 magic, and I've found that it's ALWAYS worth using the highest level surge spell that you can wolper-scroll up to. ALWAYS use a wolpertinger and scrolls, NO MATTER WHAT. It's worth skipping tasks for ice wyrms due to the huge amount of magic exp you get from them. You can't mage dark beasts, spirit mages, or waterfiends. Monsters I'm unsure of are wyverns and spectres. It costs a lot of money, but I found that I was able to support it on MTK and farm runs.

[muggiwhplar]

I mage-slayed from 89-96 magic, and I've found that it's ALWAYS worth using the highest level surge spell that you can wolper-scroll up to. ALWAYS use a wolpertinger and scrolls, NO MATTER WHAT. It's worth skipping tasks for ice wyrms due to the huge amount of magic exp you get from them. You can't mage dark beasts, spirit mages, or waterfiends. Monsters I'm unsure of are wyverns and spectres. It costs a lot of money, but I found that I was able to support it on MTK and farm runs.

 

Do waterfiends have high magic def?

[Blutters]

@Cptbaker's list

You can certainly mage Warped Tortoises and profit, but you may be crashed easily.

You can mage leather dragons and profit, as long as you pick up both hides and bones.

Surprisingly, CoG (I used before Surges were introduced) was effective against Bandos Spiritual Mages. However, I don't know if you can still safespot them, so it may no longer be worthwhile in the least.

 

Heh, you could turn this thread into a guide for others if all tasks test true.

[Obtaurian]

I mage-slayed from 89-96 magic, and I've found that it's ALWAYS worth using the highest level surge spell that you can wolper-scroll up to. ALWAYS use a wolpertinger and scrolls, NO MATTER WHAT. It's worth skipping tasks for ice wyrms due to the huge amount of magic exp you get from them. You can't mage dark beasts, spirit mages, or waterfiends. Monsters I'm unsure of are wyverns and spectres. It costs a lot of money, but I found that I was able to support it on MTK and farm runs.

 

Do waterfiends have high magic def?

 

Yes. I splashed way too often. I gave up after the first kill because of how long it took, lol.

 

@Cptbaker's list

You can certainly mage Warped Tortoises and profit, but you may be crashed easily.

You can mage leather dragons and profit, as long as you pick up both hides and bones.

Surprisingly, CoG (I used before Surges were introduced) was effective against Bandos Spiritual Mages. However, I don't know if you can still safespot them, so it may no longer be worthwhile in the least.

 

Heh, you could turn this thread into a guide for others if all tasks test true.

 

I tried using CoG and fire surge on Bandos mages to very little effect. The safespot doesn't work anymore, either.

[Blutters]

@Cptbaker's list

You can certainly mage Warped Tortoises and profit, but you may be crashed easily.

You can mage leather dragons and profit, as long as you pick up both hides and bones.

Surprisingly, CoG (I used before Surges were introduced) was effective against Bandos Spiritual Mages. However, I don't know if you can still safespot them, so it may no longer be worthwhile in the least.

 

Heh, you could turn this thread into a guide for others if all tasks test true.

 

I tried using CoG and fire surge on Bandos mages to very little effect. The safespot doesn't work anymore, either.

Oh, strange... Magic worked okay for me, but if the safespot doesn't work anymore, it isn't worth it anyway. That's too bad too because now we have +45% we didn't have back then.

[zotto]

Someone once told me that aberrant specters have a high mage defence, but you can actually mage them quite nicely.

 

I didn't pay attention to profit at all though. I'm not an efficiency freak. I even maged tasks such as hellhounds. Blitzing them even. Talk about being inefficient.

 

But I doubt you will have a big loss with aberrant specters.

[NastyJenny]

216 Tortoise task

 

 

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Took slighty longer than a wolperting (had to hop worlds quite a few times after banking lol). Fire Surge used, Wolperting reused spec at 100/95