Napoleonic Hegemony

[Retech]

Hey Grim, isn't it reset day today? After doing the math, I realized that I still wouldn't have enough money to deploy my entire army. That's the fail part about having a huge army. Slightly over 14 million to deploy, yikes.

 

If you withdraw ALL Prussians, civilian or military, thar don't actually intend on living in France, then the Polish will withdraw their calvary, and the two sides can have their fair fight.

 

I prefer leaving foreigners out of the picture.

 

 

Well, that is the other reason I use them...writing on Hegemony is terribly depressive because you have the constant voice in your head of 'None of these people trust me, despite my record on betrayal being blank, and generally avoiding all confrontation, with an expressed interest in maintaining the status quo.'

Partly my fault for being mysterious and cunning, but still...

 

Anywho

Mutual withdraw is a bad idea...Since you agree not to get involved, when you are not involved, is non sequiter.

 

I don't think any of us want to engage militarily...I am here Status Quoing and responding the perceived threat of Doom rising as a power with more money than anyone else and threatening total war...and generally speaking if I can't defeat a potential enemy on my own or with the help of my close allies...I don't like to search for other allies, last Hegemony being an exception and a proof of why it is a bad idea =P

 

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Actually, there is something I can do. The cossacks are authorized to begin raiding Prussia.

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I was under the impression that we were trying to figure out a way to allow you to leave gracefully.

Indeed, I even left instructions with Dusty to accept a deal with Doom if she offered one....

If Doom posts a reasonable agreement...Ie one that I can actually walk away in 5 years without any comeback or payoff, then I accept it.

So...

 

Anyway standing with a bullseye on my forehead, a soft leather sandel as my shield and weapon, while a wounded Lion(Doom), a Tigar(Spain) and a Giant(Russia) circle me, is not my idea of a good position, especially not for extended period of time.

If I can club the Lion into unconsciencousness then bolt for the gate before the other two attack (Or the more real threat of the Lion recovering enough to maul me before I can flee) then I am in a much better position, and have given the audiance a good show.

 

 

 

 

Prussia regretfully informs the Netherlands that such a deal would not be possible until the current siege had ended, at which point Prussia will more than happily oblige.

 

 

A crack team of negotiators are sent from Prussia to Versailles.

[Nero]

Dutch military forces:

General Aalbers

The army of the Sea:

10,000 line infantry

1,000 fusiliers

2,000 dragoons

3,000 hussars

10 cannon

 

General Bomkamp (Cavalry commander)

Strategy:

The army of holland:

7,000 line infantry

3,000 fusiliers

2,000 hussars

2,000 Lancers

10 cannon

 

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Russian Cossacks enter Prussia

Russian Cossacks meet minefields - 2,000 dead

Russian Cossacks' advance blocked by 6,000 Prussian Line infantry, forced to retreat back into Russia

 

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(You can influence electors with bribes, diplomatic treaties (guarantee independence, military alliance, etc)

All influences are to be PMed to me and I'll work it all out. They vote tomorrow; shucks to whoever misses this and wanted to be part, but it is an emergency election after all.

 

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Also if Earthsage doesn't start actually playing then Poland goes back to being an NPC state and all previous agreements between Earthsage's Poland and other countries become null and void.

 

[hide]Okay I had 9 million when I left, my budget is 22,600,000, and I have missed two budget resets meaning I have to spend 54,200,000 *Whistles*

 

Research - 10,000,000

 

44,200,000

 

British Army:

 

Colonial Army

 

4,000 line infantry

3,000 dragoons

2,000 skirmishers

1,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

 

Royal Army

 

4,000 Imperial Guards

2,000 fusiliers

4,000 dragoons

10 cannon

 

Redcoats

 

2,000 fusilers.

 

 

Time to buy some stuff.

 

I move the 4,000 Dragoons from the Royal Army to the Redcoats, and then replace them with 3,000 Cuirassiers, costing me 10,000,000, I then buy 10 cannons, costing me 5,000,000 I then buy 5,000 Line infantry costing me 5,000,000 I then buy 2,000 Grenadiers costing me 3,000,0000. I then buy 3,0000 Skirmishers, costing me 3,600,000 and then 2,000 Lancers costing me 4,000,000

 

Costing a grand total of 25,100,000

 

Redcoats

 

2,000 Fusilers

4,000 Dragoons

10 Cannons

5,000 Line Infantry

2,000 Grenadiers

3,000 Skirmishers

2,000 Lancers

 

Royal Army

 

4,000 Imperial Guards

2,000 fusiliers

3,000 Cuirassiers

10 cannon

 

I then buy 1,000 Fusilers, 1,000 Lancers, 6,000 Line Infantry, 2,000 Skirmishers, costing another grand total of 11,600,000

 

Army costs - 36,700,000

 

Cash left 7,500,000

 

Colonial Army

 

10,000 Line Infantry

3,000 Dragoons

4,000 Skirmishers

2,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

1,000 Lancers

 

 

Grand Total of Troops

 

Line Infantry - 15,000

Fusilers - 6,000

Skirmishers - 7,000

Grenadiers - 2,000

Imperial Guard - 4,000

 

Dragoons - 7,000

Hussars - 0

Lancers - 3,000

Cuirassiers - 3,000

 

Total: 47,000[/hide]

Minor bit: It was the British Colonial Army that was nearly destroyed, not the Redcoats.

http://forum.tip.it/topic/272561-napoleonic-hegemony/page__st__660__p__4440849#entry4440849

[Nexaduro]

Hehe, Emergency Diet.

 

Anyways, gotta say from a bystander point of view that was a thoroughly epic war report earlier Dusty. And the Russian Cossacks thing was quite amusing. :thumbsup:

[Retech]

I still don't see how cossacks, which are light calvary, are blocked by line infantry, which are heavy infantry. Clippity cloppity normally goes faster than crunch crunch. :thumbup:

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They were scared that if they set off at a fast speed they would be blown skyward, as a guess.

[Retech]

There wasn't much of a mention of mines back in the Napoleanic era, was there? I'm sure France could've just mined the entire border and have Wellington's army smash like waves against rocks.

 

I think 20% casualty rates is pretty effective, compared to Dusty's estimate of "not very effective." Not to mention it drove away an army. :thumbdown:

[Wisp]

Dusty, for what it's worth, the young guard should be medium guard for that fight. Actually, they should be Old Guard now.

[Icuownage]

Ffffffff- Dammit I saved over all of my old army stuff :(. Now I have to redo my budget and things :/.

 

Colonial Army

1,000 Line Infantry

1,000 Dragoons

 

Redcoats

2000 Fusilers

3000 Line Infantry

1000 Grenadiers

1000 Hussars

1000 Lancers

10 Cannons

 

Royal Army

4,000 Imperial Guards

2,000 fusiliers

4,000 dragoons

10 cannon

 

 

Budget: 44,200,000 (Research has been deducted)

 

I buy 3,000 Cuirassiers, 11,000 Line infantry, 2,000 Fusilers, 10 Cannons, 3,000 Lancers, 3,000 Skirmishers, 1,000 Grenadiers

Cost: 37,000,000

Remaining: 7,200,000

 

Colonial Army

10,000 Line infantry

2,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

2,000 Lancers

3,000 Skirmishers

5,000 Dragoons

 

Redcoats

5,000 Line infantry

2,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

1,000 Hussars

2,000 Lancers

2,000 Grenadiers

 

Royal Army

4,000 Imperial Guards

2,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

3,000 Cuirassiers

[Nero]

There wasn't much of a mention of mines back in the Napoleanic era, was there? I'm sure France could've just mined the entire border and have Wellington's army smash like waves against rocks.

 

I think 20% casualty rates is pretty effective, compared to Dusty's estimate of "not very effective." Not to mention it drove away an army. :thumbdown:

Few reasons for the high casualty rate:

1. They were moving quickly (raiding parties)

2. They had no idea the mines were there

3. They had no idea what the effectiveness of the mines were when they encoutnered them

and 4. Budget is reset today so they've all been reinforced anyways

 

Basically the mines were a sort of get out of jail free card that you can only really use once. Now that they know where they are (roughly), and what they can do, their effectiveness drops pretty hard.

 

Dusty, for what it's worth, the young guard should be medium guard for that fight. Actually, they should be Old Guard now.

Oops. I thought there was a payment to upgrade them but it seems there isn't. Right, they're Old Guard now.

 

However. Due to the fact that they're kinda crazy units, you can only have 10 battalions/regiments (1,000 men) at any given point of them. Sound fair?

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Map is updated, doing battle reports

[Icuownage]

Okay now I have 29,800,000

 

Colonial Army

10,000 Line infantry

2,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

2,000 Lancers

3,000 Skirmishers

5,000 Dragoons

 

Redcoats

5,000 Line infantry

2,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

1,000 Hussars

2,000 Lancers

2,000 Grenadiers

 

Royal Army

4,000 Imperial Guards

2,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

3,000 Cuirassiers

 

I buy 20 cannons, costing me 10,000,000

 

Colonial Army

10,000 Line infantry

2,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

2,000 Lancers

3,000 Skirmishers

5,000 Dragoons

 

Redcoats

5,000 Line infantry

2,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

1,000 Hussars

2,000 Lancers

2,000 Grenadiers

 

Royal Army

4,000 Imperial Guards

2,000 Fusilers

10 Cannons

3,000 Cuirassiers

 

Remaining: 19,800,000

 

Hmmm a bit too late to submit a battle report.

[Retech]

The crossed out stuff was mainly random rants about how mines were overpowered and stuff. It's okay now, since I've already agreed not to attack Archi.

[Wisp]

 

Oops. I thought there was a payment to upgrade them but it seems there isn't. Right, they're Old Guard now.

 

However. Due to the fact that they're kinda crazy units, you can only have 10 battalions/regiments (1,000 men) at any given point of them. Sound fair?

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Sure, and that makes sense in that they would be the elite, rather than the standard after a few battles. So will all the other ones I have now be medium guard? Or will there be a similar limit?

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Is there any chance of negotiating a peace treaty BEFORE the battle report comes out? Doom?

 

Also, since budget reset, do France's two armies reset to full strength?

I don't mind as long as both armies are reset or stay the same...

[Retech]

I thought the battle was supposed to be yesterday. Also, I think they're on a campaign, which is why they probaly won't reset.

[Nero]

Prussian/French Assault on Versailles

 

With a breach made in the walls of Versailles, the Prussian and Imperial French armies prepared for the assault. At dawn on August the First, 1787 the attack began.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyC5KnVEHiY

 

The Assault on Versailles, June 28th, 1787

 

Prussia – General Rommel (Cavalry commander)

3,000 Curissars

1,500/2,000 Dragoons

1,000 Lances

 

Prussia – Paulus(Fortress Breaker) /Von Santa Klause(Offensive Doctrine)

2,000 Skirmishers

2,000 Fusiliers

7,500/8,000 Line Infantry

2,000 Imperial Guards

15 Cannons

0/1,000 Quicklime Grenadiers

 

Imperial France – King Louis XVI (Cavalry Commander)

3,000/8,000 line infantry

4,000/8,000 fusiliers

700/2,000 skirmishers

500/4,000 cuirassiers

25 cannon

 

Revolutionary France - General Virieu (Defensive Doctrine)

4,000/7,000 Revolutionary guard (Old Guard)

4,000/10,000 Mercenary Line Infantry

1,000/3,000 Cuirassier

0/1,000 Skirmishers

20 Cannon

 

 

Continued bombardment of the breach for months had prevented the Revolutionary forces inside from actually mining the breach, and so the Prussian Forlorn Hope didn’t actually die instantly when it first assaulted the breach. 500 Prussian line infantry made the first attack, and were repelled by the Revolutionary Old Guard who stood defending the breach, but outside the eastern gate of the city the Prussians had managed to knock out the fortress’ gate, and 2,000 Prussian line infantry attack there. They were held off by 1,000 Mercenary line infantry on the revolutionary side, but the Revolutionary commanders was needing to spread his men thin now, as there were Prussian cannons striking at the western and southern gates of Versailles as well.

 

The Revolutionaries had only 8,000 men to defend all of Versailles, with 1,000 cuiriassiers in reserve. The Revolutionary’s cannons were doing most of the work however, as they shot canister into the attacking ranks of the Prussian and Imperial French assault columns.

 

Smoke wreathed the walls of Versailles as Revolutionary musket and cannon fire tried desperately to hold back the Prussian and Imperial French forces, but there were simply too many attack points that the Prussians were utilizing, and the breach was wide enough that 150 men could make their way through at a time.

 

The breakthrough came as General Paulus ordered 1,000 of Rommel’s dragoons to dismount and had 1,000 of his Imperial Guard mount and ride round to the southern gate. As the Prussian cannon demolished the gate, 500 Prussian Fusiliers led the attack. They were beaten back, but they achieved their objective of soaking up the fire from the defending Mercenary line infantry. As the line infantry was reloading, the Prussian Imperial Guard struck with bayonets fixed.

 

The line infantry tried to hold, but were forced back through sheer force. General Virieu sent his 1,000 Cuiriassiers to the southern gates to retake them, but already there were 2,000 Prussian troops inside Versailles and the Cuiriassiers were forced to retreat – the tight streets of Versailles were no place for a grand cavalry charge.

 

As pressure on the southern side of Versailles intensified, Virieu was forced to withdraw some of his troops from the eastern gate to try and retake the gate again. This weakening of his eastern line meant that the Prussians there also forced a breakthrough, and so Virieu knew at that point that Versailles was lost.

 

He ordered all his troops to retreat to the western gate, which was the Imperial French’s space to hold alongside 5 Prussian cannons and their crews. As the Prussians flooded into Versailles they slowed their advance, finding more *ahem* pleasurable things to do than die trying to force the last Revolutionaries out of Versailles (even the vaunted Prussian discipline is no match against booze, women, and loot). Virieu managed to rally a sizeable portion of his army together and led the breakout from Versailles, but the Prussian cannons were waiting and began ripping through the tightly packed retreating army.

 

The Imperial French were also waiting, but their effectiveness was highly questionable. Defeated soundly before by the Revolutionaries, many chose to desert the line and circle round to the other entrance points to try and take their share of the easy plunder in the city (even if technically it was their city – see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soissons#History ). Those that stayed still remained a sizeable force, and one that the Revolutionaries would need to get through in order to survive.

 

Virieu knew what he needed to do, and gathered every last remaining man of the Old Guard that was there with him and led them personally into the attack. 1,500 of the Revolutionary Old Guard charged the French line of 4,000 Fusiliers. They were killed by the hundreds, but managed the breakthrough after General Virieu was killed and they flew into a rage for their fallen commander. Into the hole that the Old Guard had hacked in the French line followed the remainder of the Revolutionary army, who managed to escape the field while the rest of the Imperials flooded into Versailles.

 

The victory for Prussia was however short lived, as Generals and commanders darted through the city and pulled their victorious soldiers from the pleasures of the city and reformed them into their battalions, and marched quickly back to Prussia. The Imperial French army was left to defend Versailles (though it would be 3 days before there was any sort of order established within the city).

 

Result:

Tactical Victory: Prussia/Imperial France

Strategic Victory: Prussia/Imperial France

 

Casualties:

Prussia:

1,000 Skirmishers

1,000 Fusiliers

4,000 Line infantry

1,000 Imperial Guard

500 Dragoons

 

Imperial France:

2,000 Fusiliers

1,000 Line infantry

700 Skirmishers

 

Revolutionary France:

General Virieu (Defensive Doctrine) (WILL NOT BE REPLACED, He's a dead 'un)

3,000 Old Guard

3,000 Mercenary Line infantry

1,000 Cuiriassiers

10 Cannon (WILL NOT BE REPLACED, CAPTRUED BY THE PRUSSIANS)

 

 

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Budget resets NOW, so all units that were lost but not entirely destroyed are replenished. Revolutionary France lost 10 cannons for good (and Prussia gained 10 cannons).

 

And yes, I have another battle report to write. And it's a big 'un. Everything is locked in now though.

 

[Retech]

What happened with my forces?

[Nero]

What happened with my forces?

If I was doing it in real time then I would've had to stay up until 4am to post the results. They didn't have enough time to get there so they're still with your armies (rather than not telling you and having them be halfway to France with the battle already over).

 

It just sort of slipped my mind to inform you of that, sorry. But, no harm done since they wouldn't have got there in time anyways (since I can't really think of a way for them to actually get there without taking some giant detour that takes in past the HRE).

[Retech]

Oh, that's okay. :thumbup:

 

 

 

I was going to make a new defensive posture, but assuming I'm not being attacked, no harm.

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Ok

General Virieu is given a proper funeral service in the center of Versailles.

 

While things are rushed now it is assumed the Prussian Generals involved in the assualt will not be directly need in Prussia and so can spend an extra three hours commemorating the Greatest man on the battle field...A man who could have fled, but stood and defended his city.

 

 

Prussia vows not to return to France for at least five years. If the revolutionaries manage to take power now then they rightly deserve it.

[Retech]

Could we know what the battle report is about?

[Nero]

Could we know what the battle report is about?

A battle most likely.

 

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All the budgets on the front page are accurate btw, I'm keeping them all up to date.

 

Oh, and Trol: One of your colonization missions into the Amazon failed, because well...it's the Amazon.

[Wisp]

So do I have 7k old guard now? Or just 1k? Alright, I should have about 25m or 30m to spend now, I can probably recover from that.

 

Archi, could I ask for some of the cannons back by any chance? I assume the answer will be no, but oh well.

Revolutionary France is in mourning over the lost soldiers and the great General. We will however, push on to a free france.

And I'm glad that that battle wasn't completely one sided, and my soldiers did well considering the disadvantage they were at.

[Nero]

So do I have 7k old guard now? Or just 1k? Alright, I should have about 25m or 30m to spend now, I can probably recover from that.

 

Archi, could I ask for some of the cannons back by any chance? I assume the answer will be no, but oh well.

Revolutionary France is in mourning over the lost soldiers and the great General. We will however, push on to a free france.

And I'm glad that that battle wasn't completely one sided, and my soldiers did well considering the disadvantage they were at.

You have 7k. Unless explicitly stated otherwise in the casualty report, all troops will be replenished next reset (to factor in recruitment to active battalions and whatnot).

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Good to see everything worked out in the end.

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Prussia plans to use the cannons for the next 10-20 years, and will then return them(unless destroyed, captured or otherwised) to Revolutionary France if Imperial France is beaten or on its last legs, or Imperial France if Visa-Versa.

If Revolutionary France has revolutionised France(or Imperial France has crushed the revolutionaries) then Prussia will return them for the collective cost of 2 million, before that time.

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Prussia is also willing to sell the 10 cannons for 3.5 million(1.5 million cheaper than if you made them yourself) to anyone. They are sold at 400,000 individually.

Prussia is also willing to sell other cannons at 450,000 to anyone that needs them(50,000 cheaper...Thats your first deployment absolutely free!)

 

 

Edit...French cannons have been sold.