Napoleonic Hegemony

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Sigh...

Prussia pledges to continue to support the Imperial Government of France, and is willing to defend the Citizens of Imperial France from Revolutionary France....

But is willing to agree not to attack Revolutionary France unless Revolutionary France attacks Prussian Soil...as defined by the current map.

 

Can we agree on that?

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If you withdraw ALL Prussians, civilian or military, thar don't actually intend on living in France, then the Polish will withdraw their calvary, and the two sides can have their fair fight.

 

I prefer leaving foreigners out of the picture.

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Nice to see that Earthsage is involved in this game...Might as well just set up 6 puppet accounts and take over 6 other countries....

 

Anywho, Prussia will stand by its pledge...

It will not leave Imperial France to fend for itself at a time such as this...

 

I have accompished my objective in this game...to avoid a Napoleonic Battle where the Independance of Europe hangs in the balance and the game ends for the lulz, now all I need do is find a way of extricating myself from Imperial France without abandoning Imperial France, resulting in Prussia never changing at all... and without being forced to withdraw by Russia, resulting in revolution in Prussia.

 

All your threats do is prolong the war...Because they preclude the chance of Doom actually negotiating a way of this war for me...

My only two tactics are create an Impasse, get Doom to sign some sort of 5 year treaty, I ride that back to Prussia, distract my people elsewhere so that when Doom breaks said treaty it has no comeback on me.

Or attack Doom, ride the victory back to Prussia, distract my people elsewhere so that when Doom resurges it has no comeback on me.

 

 

 

 

However,

If Russia wants to involve itself in a war with three other nations(four if you include Imperial France) then please continue to make threats and we can fight a war of pointlessness...

Potentially leading to a game ending war of pointlessness as you bring in other allies and everyone tries to get enough land to produce a peace treaty.

 

 

Something I don't want, and I am guessing no body else wants either.

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I was given control of the Polish military, as Poland is Russia's protectorate. (Just found that out when reading up on Poland).

 

 

 

If your concern is that the Prussian people will hate you for withdrawing, then I'm sure we can work something out on that. Maybe you could sell it as a mutual withdrawl, to keep foreign troops rampaging around France or whatever. The quotes were merely illustrating that your intervention in Northern France would not succeed, and that we would remove your troops if necessary. The whole point of the mutual withdrawl in the first place was that I wouldn't have to fight a foreign war.

 

Since I am assisting Doom, rather than going around on my own accord, I will let her do the negotiating, and will abide by whatever terms she comes up with (unless it's giving up half of Russia to Poland or something, but I think it's pretty clear what I mean). However, I won't hesitate to engage in military action if necessary, though I'd still rather not.

 

 

 

Just one thing that's bugging me though. Why do you use '...' at the end of half of your sentences? Just curious. :)

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It's stylish... :)

 

In my case it assists in ending and beginning confusing sentences because they can be interpreted as acceptable and connected fragments without becoming too run-on.

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At the end of sentences... Well, it comes from two changes I made over the last 5 years to my writing style...First was to use ellipsis to run my ideas together, second was to paragraph...So I end up running ideas in different paragraphs together =p

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Phew, good. It keeps making me think that you're upset or depressed, because that's how my inner voice "reads" the ellipsis. I don't want to make Archi sad. :(

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Well, that is the other reason I use them...writing on Hegemony is terribly depressive because you have the constant voice in your head of 'None of these people trust me, despite my record on betrayal being blank, and generally avoiding all confrontation, with an expressed interest in maintaining the status quo.'

Partly my fault for being mysterious and cunning, but still...

 

Anywho

Mutual withdraw is a bad idea...Since you agree not to get involved, when you are not involved, is non sequiter.

 

I don't think any of us want to engage militarily...I am here Status Quoing and responding the perceived threat of Doom rising as a power with more money than anyone else and threatening total war...and generally speaking if I can't defeat a potential enemy on my own or with the help of my close allies...I don't like to search for other allies, last Hegemony being an exception and a proof of why it is a bad idea =P

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Well the Polish lancers turned the tide, and the command structure of the Polish and Russian armies are integrated.

 

 

 

You have the Holy Roman Empire with you. If she becomes a maniac and declares total war on Europe, then I will do my duty of safeguarding the people of Europe and come to help. I've never betrayed anyone except in the first Hegemony, and I'm blatantly direct, so yah. Russia can match France militarily, so don't worry about it.

 

Infact, if you withdraw from France, then I will form a defensive pact with you. Your cunning and my direct stubbornous can brunt any French army!

 

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Now that I reread, it does sound sorta braggy and condescending. This is purely a transaction. If I am responsible for creating a monster (Napoleanic France), then you should have an insurance policy against such a monster.

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Nah, we just get on each other's ear...You have ambition, I have tradtion...It just won't work out.

 

 

Aside from that, it is about balance.

I know that Doom is now not a major threat to stability if she went crazy with power. Only major threat left is Russia but there is little I can do about that without risking creating a power vacuum, or making you even more powerful...so I have to wait to see how things turn out.

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Okay. Could you agree that the Prussian troops are there to keep the French citizens safe, and not to persecute revolutionaries? Is that a fair agreement?

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Can't really do one without the other, unless Doom withdraws her revolutionaries.

If that happened then I would withdraw within 5 years, since there is no point in remaining there...Then start an arguement with Imperial France over payment and so not go back when Doom invades.

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Well only the aristocrats are going to be driven out or possibly killed, and we all know they're not people. -sarcasm-

 

 

Considering all the stuff about protecting liberty and stuff, I'm sure Doom would refrain from killing civilians. :thumbup:

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Archi, I never even made a mental note of you being someone that was a threat or a country I had to defeat, or even as an adjacent country. Then, while I was in a state of weakness, you made threats to me, and basically tried to undermine my control of France, which is my starting country, revolt or not. I was only the wealthiest because I didn't spend any real money when I was Imperial France, and I stole about half of what I had saved. I now have around 8m or 18m ish depending on if the budget's have reset, which is probably less than many people.

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Indeed, now you do. But back then you were on target for 80 million...And I was under the impression that it would be roughly historically accurately, so weakening France to a reasonable degree would balance as France being normal.

 

So, with that in mind I set out to protect myself from the potential situation.

 

Not saying it is not my fault, it very much is, hence why I am trying to find a way of getting out, while still saving face.

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Spain will come to France's aid if she wishes for it. Four front wars can be brutal, archi.

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I too use "..."

On a related note `,..,´ becomes a monster in the dark... and QK a sideways ninja.

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Archi, I never even made a mental note of you being someone that was a threat or a country I had to defeat, or even as an adjacent country. Then, while I was in a state of weakness, you made threats to me, and basically tried to undermine my control of France, which is my starting country, revolt or not. I was only the wealthiest because I didn't spend any real money when I was Imperial France, and I stole about half of what I had saved. I now have around 8m or 18m ish depending on if the budget's have reset, which is probably less than many people.

 

 

Indeed, now you do. But back then you were on target for 80 million...And I was under the impression that it would be roughly historically accurately, so weakening France to a reasonable degree would balance as France being normal.

 

So, with that in mind I set out to protect myself from the potential situation.

 

Not saying it is not my fault, it very much is, hence why I am trying to find a way of getting out, while still saving face.

 

Distract the people by blaming the nobles for lying to you, in order for you to send troops into France. "There were no WMDs!"

 

 

Then kick them out of the country. Eaaaaaasy.

 

Spain will come to France's aid if she wishes for it. Four front wars can be brutal, archi.

 

Thanks, but what do you mean, four fronts? If you mean nations, I only count three. If you mean actual fronts, I don't know how Denmark or Austro-Hungary are involved. :o

 

Also, that was a bit late, but it's still good. It would've had an even larger effect if it was suddenly announced in fliers all over France and a painting of a grand royal court with our leaders shaking hands and stuff.

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... Y'know, "Ender's Game" would've been a better title for a historical compilation of "World Wars" in Hegemony.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hAleep6uBI&feature=related

 

 

The Russian Imperial army has finished re-organising into several fighting units (that is, I finally spent time organizing it rather than just adding more troops each budget reset), in order to better facilitate combat operations as multiple armies, rather than just one big blob. They shall be controlled by a central command, and work in tandem. Their names do not indicate where they are stationed, only where they were raised.

 

Imperial Russian Army of Saint Petersburg

Imperial Russian Army of Moscow

Imperial Russian Army of Poland

Polish Provincial Army of Poland

Cossack Provincial Army of Ukraine

Old Russian Imperial Reserve

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By four fronts, I mean Spain and France from the west, Russia from the north/east and Austria from the south (if she backs micklenburger)

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Ah, that makes more sense. :thumbup:

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Spain will come to France's aid if she wishes for it. Four front wars can be brutal, archi.

Invasion via Russia is probably enough to cripple me.

As I have said before, I am willing to leave if someone gives me a decent way out...Threatening me has no effect, since I am damned if I do and damned if I don't.

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I am back, what has happened? And how many resets since I left (The 12th) I am guessing two, which means I should be at around 40 million.

 

Anyway, Britain declares they have no intention to make peace with America, and is only interested in making peace with Spain, it would hope that Spain will see that the American colonies will just betray and attack you when the time is right, as they have with the British. The peace treaty that was written up by Britain still stands, and the only reason Britain declined the Spanish treaty was because it involved peace with America, something they don't know the meaning of, and that it did not allow Britain to colonise, something that have devoted a lot of money into and want to continue doing.

 

The treaty of Newfoundland

 

Peace between the Spanish and British colonies

NAP for 10 years

Spain gives back the easternmost colonies they attacked

Spain is disallowed to rejoin the war on either side

Britain will remove all spies from Spain

Britain will allow Spain to colonise some of the remaining colonies in America in peace

 

 

 

Negotiations are allowed, but we will not allow anything to steep or that will hold Britain back for a long period of time.

 

How about that?

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Also, does anyone know when the last update happened and when the next one will happen? They've been a bit erratic recently. :)