Napoleonic Hegemony

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Prussia continues to wait for the lifeless lump of Imperial France to actually say anything about the continued threats to invade and/or offers to help crush revolutionary France...

DUSTY

 

Prussia also appaludes Revolutionary France for being pragmatic in adopting a different declaration of rights for a different country, though Prussia has some worries that over half of France is likely to disagree with these policies, since over half of France wants to keep the King, and so really should have consulted the whole country, as Prussia did, before insitituting a set of laws that may or may not be the will of the people.

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Noting however that the peasents swing between total apathy and psychosis and don't have a conscience, moral center or, indeed the ability to think for themselves...it seems.

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[Nero]

Idk what you're asking. You bought a bunch of French Revolutionaries and then handed them out to the people? :S

If Doom is selling them?

No, I said French Revolutionary Guys...Like Guy Fawkes...like the Effigies of the Pope...

Kinda like scarecrows that you burn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes#Legacy

 

Elsewhere Prussia investigates Dutch Windwill design, and conducts a study (Dusty) into wind speed in Prussia, and the possibility of developing an array of windmills to provide power.

Ah okay. You burn them and the common people get mad at the Prussian government.

 

Sure.

 

EDIT: So when does the budget next update?

Idk, let's say today.

 

Happy Birthday Edel, Here is some money and soldiers!

Happy birthday. Your present is the fact that there isn't a revolt over the occupation of your colonies in Australia that the Austrian government is doing nothing to either accept/try and get back.

Seriously, you're still technically at war with Portugal.

 

I would....but the Napoleonic Era will never happen in Hegemony.

I had an arguement with Dusty about the relationship between strategy and tactics....

In which you stated you weren't a strategic person and that I should be the one to determine what you use and where...

 

 

 

Also, Politics is something the Tavern epically fails at.

Revolution is only fun because we can't physically fail at it....We announce something, Dusty puts up a minor roadblock, we sweep it away. Ooo, ahh...

Huge armies? Huge armies that were summoned into being over the course of a year or two, sent off to fight a battle or campaign and then return...

These were not the days of 'I build a massive army and sit on it for the next 50 years and pwn everything that comes near me.'...Which is ultimately why Hegemony gets stale....People build an army and compete for the largest army...the person with the most resources wins...then the rich get richer...End of game, thanks for 2 months of your life.

You can fail at revolutions and whatnot. Generally internal conflicts within your nation aren't enough to destroy it on its own, but when you factor in other players and what they might be doing to affect the outcome...

 

Prussia continues to wait for the lifeless lump of Imperial France to actually say anything about the continued threats to invade and/or offers to help crush revolutionary France...

DUSTY

Imperial France says it will accept Prussian troops if they like to help.

 

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Ah okay. You burn them and the common people get mad at the Prussian government.

I didn't burn them, I gave them to common people to see how they reacted <_<

 

Also their only experiance with French Revolutionaries is that they come and set fire to fields, try to kill the king and get alot of people killed.

Further I have been talking about invading France for a long time and they have said nothing...

If you are gonna launch dissent events you need to provide some sort of warning that A will lead to B...not just magically appear at C

 

In which you stated you weren't a strategic person and that I should be the one to determine what you use and where...

 

Whatever the generals say that I should. They know what they are doing, they know the relative worths of the soliders, they know the tactics that are going to be used....

Me assigning values would basically have me asking the generals what to do and then following whatever advice they gave, so lets just cut the corner and say the generals do it and I rubber stamp it.

 

Imperial France says it will accept Prussian troops if they like to help.

And the peace deal thing?

 

 

 

Thank you!

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Politics isn't something that the tavern fails at. We just have a different kind of politics.

[Nero]

I didn't burn them, I gave them to common people to see how they reacted <_<

Okay then, they take them and throw them away. Most don't really care what's going on in France.

 

Also their only experiance with French Revolutionaries is that they come and set fire to fields, try to kill the king and get alot of people killed.

Further I have been talking about invading France for a long time and they have said nothing...

If you are gonna launch dissent events you need to provide some sort of warning that A will lead to B...not just magically appear at C

The common people that do care see the Revolutionaries fighting against a stagnant monarchy that almost led France to the brink of ruin, and are fighting for a more equal society.

 

Whatever the generals say that I should. They know what they are doing, they know the relative worths of the soliders, they know the tactics that are going to be used....

Me assigning values would basically have me asking the generals what to do and then following whatever advice they gave, so lets just cut the corner and say the generals do it and I rubber stamp it.

Yes. 'Do my work for me while I work out my schemes and post sacrecrows for people to get tired of attacking'.

 

And the peace deal thing?

Both sides would be pissed. Imperial France does not want to give away half of France, and Revolutionary France (as Doom says) essentially has told you to piss off.

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The common people that do care see the Revolutionaries fighting against a stagnant monarchy that almost led France to the brink of ruin, and are fighting for a more equal society.

They don't care, but they take an active interest...

 

Yes. 'Do my work for me while I work out my schemes and post sacrecrows for people to get tired of attacking'.

Yes....Isn't that why you took over tactics? So people didn't have to worry about planning wars and such, instead they could focus on playing a game...

 

Both sides would be pissed. Imperial France does not want to give away half of France, and Revolutionary France (as Doom says) essentially has told you to piss off.

:grin:

[Nero]

They don't care, but they take an active interest...

The ones that don't care...don't care.

The ones that do (the minority)...like the revolutionaries.

 

Yes. 'Do my work for me while I work out my schemes and post sacrecrows for people to get tired of attacking'.

Yes....Isn't that why you took over tactics? So people didn't have to worry about planning wars and such, instead they could focus on playing a game...

It was so that they can play the game with planning wars and such, but didn't have to worry about the 'These troops will flank them on the right, these cannons will be placed on a ridge behind ['You're fighting in a forest'] Oh, then they'll be placed in a tree ['That's impossible'] Fine! They'll be buried in a hole and then come up and surprise them with super secret skills ['sigh'] and then my dragoons will dismount and make a cloverleaf over here to get around the enemy position, and blahblahblahlblah. And then the others person's tactics is 'I retreat to my city and hold there.' Thus wasting both mine and the first person's time, who then gets angry that his troops didn't follow his tactics.

 

:grin:

Devious bastard

 

 

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Oh, and Austria-Hungary has declared war on Imperial France. I'm writing up the battle report.

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This has the makings of an all-European conflict written all over it.

[Nero]

This has the makings of an all-European conflict written all over it.

Happens once every century tbh.

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The ones that don't care...don't care.

The ones that do (the minority)...like the revolutionaries.

Check

 

It was so that they can play the game with planning wars and such, but didn't have to worry about the 'These troops will flank them on the right, these cannons will be placed on a ridge behind ['You're fighting in a forest'] Oh, then they'll be placed in a tree ['That's impossible'] Fine! They'll be buried in a hole and then come up and surprise them with super secret skills ['sigh'] and then my dragoons will dismount and make a cloverleaf over here to get around the enemy position, and blahblahblahlblah. And then the others person's tactics is 'I retreat to my city and hold there.' Thus wasting both mine and the first person's time, who then gets angry that his troops didn't follow his tactics.

 

Thats fine...but if two sides are gonna fight a pitched battle, the enemy has 500 XYZ, 30 TYM and 9,000 KTW then I want to know how many GYTs, KDEs and OPDs I should send.

Even if it is only:

'Well they are mostly KTWs and they are stong against this, but weak against this, so I think we should send this.'

Another general

'Well, I think we should send this, since their TYMs will destroy my learned collegues force.'

 

Hardly back breaking work for you(10 generals, offering 1 or 2 lines of advice, most of them will agree or say this is not their field) and I have something to go on...because my knowladge of the Napoleonic Era is that you had Infantry, Cannons and Calvery...

Infantry was weak but plentiful, Calvery charged in and cannons worn down slowly.

 

 

I am not saying 'do my work for me' I am saying 'I have no idea what I am doing, some help would be nice'

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Russia declares that it can opt out of any all-European conflict, as it is part Asian. :thumbup:

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I am not saying 'do my work for me' I am saying 'I have no idea what I am doing, some help would be nice'

Oh okay, my bad. I thought you were doing it just to annoy me :lol:

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Oh, and Austria-Hungary has declared war on Imperial France. I'm writing up the battle report.

This is why politics don't work in this game...less than a day passes between war and the battle...Real world neogitations would be set up with a tonne of other powers.

 

Oh okay, my bad. I thought you were doing it just to annoy me

 

Hehe, nah, I know what it is like to be a moderator....Plus I am annoying enough without having to try to annoy people.

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Hey, Archi.

 

We're on the same team its time to kick some ass.

 

 

 

Yeahhhhhhhhh!!

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I think everyone playing underestimates everyone else playing, which is why no one consults one another.

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Hey, Archi.

 

We're on the same team its time to kick some ass.

Aren't you invading Imperial France? While I am fighting Revolutionary France....

 

I mean I am willing to join forces, let you attack Imperial France, I attack Revolutionary France and then we split the booty...just want to be clear about things.

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Hey, Archi.

 

We're on the same team its time to kick some ass.

Aren't you invading Imperial France? While I am fighting Revolutionary France....

 

I mean I am willing to join forces, let you attack Imperial France, I attack Revolutionary France and then we split the booty...just want to be clear about things.

 

Archi... We're two british people attacking the french people, we sure to god are attacking the same france (because we all hate the French!!)

 

But yes, I agree to that.

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we sure to god are attacking the same france (because we all hate the French!!)

This is true.

 

(Prays Dusty isn't in the French part of Canada)

 

I will work something out with Dusty.

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Poor France. It shall never see the light of day.

 

 

 

Question: If you're technically on opposing sides of the war, wouldn't your troops...fight against each other, at least in some battles?

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I'm attacking France for my personal gain, I will not be dragged into the revolution; I'm just asking any revolutionarys to help me.

Archi is attacking the revolutionary people.

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Not really...My forces are there to destroy the rebels, nothing else.

Edel is, seemingly, not on the Rebel's side so there is no reason to fight him.

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So it would be like...

 

Austrian General: First we'll march to Versailles and loot the imperial palace, before swinging into Paris.

Prussian General: We've seen an uprising in Toulouse. Let's go and get them!

 

But what if this happens...

 

Revolutionaries: The Prussians are planning to attack us! Please help!

Imperial French: Those Austrians prevent us from destroying the revolutionaries. We must attack them!

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Archi - Ally, I won't attack Archi, we are both destroying some part of france and gaining from i.

Revolutionarys - Neutral, I will only attack if they attack me.

Revolutionarys who have decided they want to aid me - Allys.

 

So basically, I won't aid the revolutionarys, I will only tell them that some parts of France will be under new rule, they won't be rioting; they will be attacking the same places as me.

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Its pretty simple...when you think about it.

Imperial France attacks Austria

Revolutionary France attacks Prussia

Prussia attacks Revolutionary France

Austria attacks Imperial France

Imperial France attacks Revolutionary France

Revolutionary France attacks Imperial France

 

Austria doesn't attack Prussia(hopefully)

Prussia doesn't attack Austria(hopefully)

 

Unless the Imperial French army and the Revolutionary French army sit next to each other(assuming a French revolutionary army exists)...or Edel attacks me...there is no reason for us to engage in direct or indirect fighting.

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It just sounds sorta bizzare that you're fighting against each other's allies. Thanks for clarifying. :thumbup: