Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Hot air balloons are great for combat.... They act as spotters to help your artillery, this could lead to a lot of soldiers dying. Infact they were priority targets in some battles when they were used because of how good they were for combat. Also they suck for getting to places... Landing them can be difficult, they get owned by the weather and they couldn't go far. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Hot air balloons are great for combat.... They act as spotters to help your artillery, this could lead to a lot of soldiers dying. Infact they were priority targets in some battles when they were used because of how good they were for combat. Also they suck for getting to places... Landing them can be difficult, they get owned by the weather and they couldn't go far.The first one does not really justify it as powerful on its own, its basically just the equivelant on a man standing on a really raised platform (E.G a hill) because you can still get a pretty clear view. By themselves they can be shot down easily. They are good for travel because they can get over land and air without the need for destroying walls or hard rowing. [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Oh as I want the colonisation thing to be done in the summer, I want to colonse If it is possible? Can I pick more or do I have to tone down, as colonising the U.S will take loooooooooads of money to do if I can only go province per colonise trip. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 So? Most of Russia is an unuseable wasteland... Provinces all seem to be worth the same so it doesn't matter. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Dear god isn't anyone going to stop him? [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Hmmm, there is a point there actually. Perhaps I should send the army of Canada with them? Am I allowed to do that? I don't want to just chuck two million away. Only people who could stop me would be anyone with a navy who is willing to sacrifice a load of men on the voyage, and even more in battling me... Or Dungeonal or Spain. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 The King of Spain walks into his planning room, grunting something about bad ham. His advisers cower, fearing they may become the target of the King's anger. "Erm...Your Highness, we have uncovered corruption in our western colonies." "What! How dare those bastards disrespect our kingdom. How severe is it""They have managed to siphon thousands of Ducats over the last decade""This is treason! I shall pick my top viceroys to send over there, with an order to have the current officials hung" (option A) "Now on to other business. We need an army to protect our colonial holdings. I am commissioning 4000 Line infantry, 1000 Cuirassiers and a new general. They will be sent to New Spain immediately." (cost - 6m) "I am also sending a colonial team to Northern California and a team deeper into the Amazon (two northwesternmost provinces)." "To conclude, we must rule the seas god sent us, and thus I want built a royal navy consisting of one Capital Ship (Two decker) and ten frigates." (cost 8m) (Remaining budget - 6,480,000 Ducats [not including Colonial Team costs]) Ignore Colonial Teams until the number of provinces they can claim is made clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Spain and Britain have traded a few provinces, [hide][/hide] New map. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Can't name em off by heart and I don't want to draw it up again, just look at the front page map, and at this map. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Well played ICU on last post there, Ninja'd in between lock and my last post.As said before, 3 generals, 4 admirals more, if you aren't about to post on that Dusty. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 On Nov 21, 1783, in Paris, France, the first untethered manned flight was made by Jean-François Pilâtre de Rozier and François Laurent d'Arlandes in a hot air balloon created on Dec 14, 1782 by the Montgolfier brothers. Once again the research is semi-plausible.Are you allowed to research more than one thing without detrimenting the other things success? Regardless I also put research into faster loading guns.Well, considering that research progress is determined by how much money you sink into the field, no. And saying "I research such and such" is useless since you aren't putting any money in it, and so you won't get any returns. 3 more Generals, 4 admirals.General ______ General ______General ______ (cavalry commander) Admiral ______ (gunner's mate)Admiral ______ (defensive doctrine)Admiral ______Admiral ______ On Nov 21, 1783, in Paris, France, the first untethered manned flight was made by Jean-François Pilâtre de Rozier and François Laurent d'Arlandes in a hot air balloon created on Dec 14, 1782 by the Montgolfier brothers. Once again the research is semi-plausible...... and also defeats the whole purpose of setting the game in the Napoleonic Wars. This is how it started in YOH too, with your incredibly annoying "ship research" garbage. These types of researches have ruined too many games. Rocco, don't worry about it - you know just as well as everyone else I won't allow steamboats and gatlings guns in the 18th century. How about this:If we want "new" stuff, we put it under 'experimental research. Dusty occasionally will unlock a new technology via that, ie: Steam. Then you can research that directly. Dusty, that sound ok?Sounds fine to me. Doesn't really matter, as most people will tell me what they're researching and what they expect to get. Though, I doubt they will get exactly what they want very often - useless inventions or silly crap though up by madmen more likely. It seems to be that this can be easily solved by a simple rule: Technologies can be researched by not used before the date of its actual invention. For example, someone could start research on flight for use in the military, but until 18-- when it was actually used, then the research only accumalates. Then when we pass the time when it is actually used/invented, then all the years of research are factored in to see if you get the technology or not. This would apply to different stages as well. So you might be able to use a prototypical hot air balloon, but it certainly wouldn't help much until several decades later when they become reliable.Problem with that rule is that you can find numerous little examples of tech being used way before it was actually accepted - like steam engines and batteries in the ancient world. Also how many provinces does a colonisation mission give?1 province per colonization mission. Just to keep myself updated, this is my new army total: 7,000 Line infantry2,000 fusiliers1,000 Skirmishers1,000 lancers1,000 dragoons500 Hussars30 cannon And this is my new navy: 5 Two-Deckers4 FrigatesAnd to keep me updated too! :) colonising the U.S will take loooooooooads of money to do if I can only go province per colonise trip.Like it was IRL ;) It's a long term investment. So? Most of Russia is an unuseable wasteland... Provinces all seem to be worth the same so it doesn't matter.Russia gets a production penalty for owning Siberia though. Perhaps I should send the army of Canada with them? Am I allowed to do that? I don't want to just chuck two million away.You can move armies around all you like, at no cost. You only pay deployment costs when they engage in a fight. The King of Spain walks into his planning room, grunting something about bad ham. His advisers cower, fearing they may become the target of the King's anger. "Erm...Your Highness, we have uncovered corruption in our western colonies." "What! How dare those bastards disrespect our kingdom. How severe is it""They have managed to siphon thousands of Ducats over the last decade""This is treason! I shall pick my top viceroys to send over there, with an order to have the current officials hung" (option A) "Now on to other business. We need an army to protect our colonial holdings. I am commissioning 4000 Line infantry, 1000 Cuirassiers and a new general. They will be sent to New Spain immediately." (cost - 6m) "I am also sending a colonial team to Northern California and a team deeper into the Amazon (two northwesternmost provinces)." "To conclude, we must rule the seas god sent us, and thus I want built a royal navy consisting of one Capital Ship (Two decker) and ten frigates." (cost 8m) (Remaining budget - 6,480,000 Ducats [not including Colonial Team costs]) Ignore Colonial Teams until the number of provinces they can claim is made clearGotcha. Added the +1%, so next reset you'll have another 100kAnd it's 1 province per colonization mission, if you'd like to revise your post. And your remaining budget would be 4,480,000 since you picked option A for the corruption random event And you get General ________ (Winter specialist - lol useless for Spain) Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Okay I would like to colonise Please, and I also move my army of Canada with the colonisation group incase of any natives. Agree with Rocco, the 10 year thing killed a previous Hegemony. Though I have to agree that it makes it way more thoughtful of what you do with your money, and it will probably lead to a ton of wars. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I agree 6 years, though it's your call Dusty. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Okay I would like to colonise Please, and I also move my army of Canada with the colonisation group incase of any natives. Agree with Rocco, the 10 year thing killed a previous Hegemony. Though I have to agree that it makes it way more thoughtful of what you do with your money, and it will probably lead to a ton of wars.Righto. Both were successful btw. I'll update the map in a sec. I think budget resets should be every 6 rl days (so 3 game years) or something like that. 10 rl days is far too much imo. Crap, I spent my whole budget before I thought about colonization. Oh well. Does my -10% ship cost apply to that?Maybe yea. I'll sleep on it first though :P The Russian government has cemented a deal with the Kingdom of Poland, essentially removing Poland as a competitor to Russian interests in Eastern Europe. The terms that Poland agreed to are thus: 1. Russia can move armies through Poland (to reach other places)2. Russia will defend Poland in the event of an attack on Poland by another nation3. Poland cedes 20% of their budget to Russia. Ten percent will be used to train and supply Russian military forces to defend Poland.4. Poland gives Russia the extreme southern provinces. (how you respond here is entirely up to you Earth, or anyone else) ---- Anyways, what's everyone's impressions so far? Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Wait what? Poland... That deal is..... Really...... Figure the next word out for yourself. @Dusty I really like this, and it's only the beginning, I can't wait to see the first war, and I have a feeling it wont be between me and Dungeonal. Also the random events are pretty cool, do you design the event image thing by yourself? It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Ok, final 4 million goes into colonizing. Map in a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Wait what? Poland... That deal is..... Really...... Figure the next word out for yourself.Yea, I know. Depending on how the situation is handled it could end up crippling the Polish state. Gotta think smart here, Earth! @Dusty I really like this, and it's only the beginning, I can't wait to see the first war, and I have a feeling it wont be between me and Dungeonal. Also the random events are pretty cool, do you design the event image thing by yourself?:PYea I made them. I figured most Hegemony games has everyone just sorta sitting around building up for the next big giant mega war, so this sort of throws random curve balls at people. -- On the random events: Generally, if you're trying to change something within your country, there is going to be some section of your society that will resist it. They are:The peasantry (commoners)The clergy (religious figures)The aristocracy (wealthy land owners)The bourgeoisie (land owners/traders)annd various other random groups So, if you want to change something you need to be prepared to repel any group's attempt to resist that change. You just have to be careful and handle it well enough. Sometimes bashing in people's skulls is the only way though. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Is it too late for him to just cancel the deal? It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I'd say yeah. If we can just go back on choices to avoid random events we don't like, what's the point? Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Hmm how about if he did it and a few of the rebels stopped rebelling, then he'd face a smaller force. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Is it too late for him to just cancel the deal?He could. But then I'm sure Russia would get pissed. I'd say yeah. If we can just go back on choices to avoid random events we don't like, what's the point?Well, in this situation canceling the deal with Russia would be seen as agreeing with what the revolters want, and so that could be one of the solutions to the event. But if you're given a random event with clear choices and you choose one, you can't go back on it. Like for example, if another event pops up where people in Ireland found out that the British government had bribed the riot ringleaders away and it spawned some other negative thing, Icu couldn't go back and choose a different option for the first one. --- This is fun. It's like I'm the dungeon master from a D&D game FROM HELL muwahahhaa Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 XD, catholic fanatics are upset that you have allowed muslims to practice in the country. *Bribes Catholics* -> The pope caught wind of the bribe and has stated your country is against God, catholic traders/peasents/anyone really, being leaving the country, huge deductions to budget. *Open up trade with muslim countries*. Catholics have declared that your country is heathen, and many catholic nations declare war on you. *Close trade with muslims* Muslim countries are angered at how you're easily swayed and costed their countries to set up trade routes just to close them off, many muslims nations declare war. There is no winning. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 If you just listened to the fanatics and kicked the people who were different than you out, maybe to Pope would have rewarded you with candies and gold hats. :lol: Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 My teams are being sent to these locations, accompanied by 250 cuirassiers each. They also carry 50,000 worth of supplies and trinkets each to bribe the natives with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Prussia is willing to assist the Polish in their struggle to overthrow their government/riot the hell out of places to prevent the Russians from establishing dominion. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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