Kirbyallstar Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I read a long time ago if you are hitting over 71% of the time, you should use void, and if under, use arma. Low def monsters: void. High def monsters: arma. Well, when is the void deflector + acp better than full arma? Is void deflector + acp better in all circumstances now, or is full arma better in some places? Places that I have in mind is armadyl gw, fight caves, and frost dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitstinks Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Huh i thought acp + deflector is always better. There really is no shield for range bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirbyallstar Posted September 19, 2010 Author Share Posted September 19, 2010 Huh i thought acp + deflector is always better. There really is no shield for range bonus Ya that's what I'm trying to find out. Is the acp + deflector better in EVERY SINGLE CIRCUMSTANCE imaginable, or full arma better in some situations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitstinks Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Well... Try naming one situation where it wouldn't be the best. I just tried for a couple of mins but nothing came to mind.Maybe full arma is better if you go arma cuz u need some extra def. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_moocky Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Armadyl armour is better in places where you need defence, such as armadyl godwars. In damage output though I'm sure acp+void beats anything. quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirbyallstar Posted September 19, 2010 Author Share Posted September 19, 2010 Well... Try naming one situation where it wouldn't be the best. I just tried for a couple of mins but nothing came to mind. Ya, this is what I'm aiming at. I'm trying to think also about a situation where it wouldn't be the best, so I asked my question to see if anyone else can think of one. Armadyl armour is better in places where you need defence, such as armadyl godwars. Maybe full arma is better if you go arma cuz u need some extra def. In damage output though I'm sure acp+void beats anything. Here, my question is sort of answered, they said - Instead of:Low def monsters - voidHigh def monsters - arma It is now:DPS - voidneeding def - arma ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What about a purely damage outputting scenario where you are hitting 50% with the deflector and acp? Would it be better to switch to full arma, or would you still stick to void? What I am getting at is: At what % accuracy would full arma trump the acp + deflector? Before the deflector, it was at 71%. Now with the deflector + acp combo, what is the new percentage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 What about a purely damage outputting scenario where you are hitting 50% with the deflector and acp? Would it be better to switch to full arma, or would you still stick to void? What I am getting at is: At what % accuracy would full arma trump the acp + deflector? Before the deflector, it was at 71%. Now with the deflector + acp combo, what is the new percentage?Grimy calculated that void + acp always has more dps than full arma, assuming all the other ranged gear is maxed. Also, spectral > deflector by 20 mage defence, a load of melee defence and 3 prayer, and verac's helm > void range helm by I don't know how much melee/ranged defence and 3 prayer. So yeah, void is not yet the way to go at places you need the defence. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirbyallstar Posted September 19, 2010 Author Share Posted September 19, 2010 Grimy calculated that void + acp always has more dps than full arma, assuming all the other ranged gear is maxed. So no matter what the monster's def might be and no matter what your accuracy is against that monster it's always better to use the deflector + acp? Thanks, I guess my question has been answered. :shades: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Grimy calculated that void + acp always has more dps than full arma, assuming all the other ranged gear is maxed. So no matter what the monster's def might be and no matter what your accuracy is against that monster it's always better to use the deflector + acp? Thanks, I guess my question has been answered. :shades:I think that was with a chaotic crossbow, though. Hence the 'maxed' term. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Grimy calculated that void + acp always has more dps than full arma, assuming all the other ranged gear is maxed. So no matter what the monster's def might be and no matter what your accuracy is against that monster it's always better to use the deflector + acp? Thanks, I guess my question has been answered. :shades:I think that was with a chaotic crossbow, though. Hence the 'maxed' term.no, it was with a rune crossbow.I meant maxed in terms of armor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Grimy calculated that void + acp always has more dps than full arma, assuming all the other ranged gear is maxed. So no matter what the monster's def might be and no matter what your accuracy is against that monster it's always better to use the deflector + acp? Thanks, I guess my question has been answered. :shades:I think that was with a chaotic crossbow, though. Hence the 'maxed' term.no, it was with a rune crossbow.I meant maxed in terms of armor Would the difference be more pronounced with the chaotic crossbow? PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Grimy calculated that void + acp always has more dps than full arma, assuming all the other ranged gear is maxed. So no matter what the monster's def might be and no matter what your accuracy is against that monster it's always better to use the deflector + acp? Thanks, I guess my question has been answered. :shades:I think that was with a chaotic crossbow, though. Hence the 'maxed' term.no, it was with a rune crossbow.I meant maxed in terms of armorOK, my bad.Since accuracy is supposed to be the weak point of void, a chaotic crossbow would tilt it slightly more in favour of the void setup, I think? Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 OK, my bad.Since accuracy is supposed to be the weak point of void, a chaotic crossbow would tilt it slightly more in favour of the void setup, I think?yes it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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