so obviously it's more efficient to train without having to click as much if possible.

I figured, once jagex implements the make-all update in october, it'll be as good a time as any to add clicks per hour to my spreadsheets

But it's a lot of work that I won't want to do if it doesn't actually make a difference.

 

 

I could even add a gp value per click, (granted value of effort probably isn't linear)

That way people can estimate if the extra effort is worth the xp or not.

 

example:

barbarian drop fishing might be faster xp. but it's more clicks per hour.

I could factor that into the efficiency ratio at the end.

It'd certainly be nice to know, but I wouldn't calculate it into efficiency, as it's not linear (as you said) and some people can stand more clicks/hour than others. So just put it off to the side and let players make their own decisions about it.

Looks like a good idea, most of the people I send to your spreadsheets can't seem to decipher them though. Might want to make a spreadsheet reading guide for idiots while you're at it. :mrgreen:

 

In all seriousness, yes I think it would help people such as myself determine if i want to stay focused more through the training, and I appreciate the work you put into these spreadsheets as it benefits myself.

Yes. It's also be interesting to know the c/ph for the most common moneymakers, so if you have a good, low computation requiring program, i could test it out for frost dragons(all 3 combat classes, ofcource).

Yes. It's also be interesting to know the c/ph for the most common moneymakers, so if you have a good, low computation requiring program, i could test it out for frost dragons(all 3 combat classes, ofcource).

oof, I can't really write my own programs :P

I'm thinking of doing it for training methods as opposed to money makers.

My spreadsheets don't really cover money makers.

 

Looks like a good idea, most of the people I send to your spreadsheets can't seem to decipher them though. Might want to make a spreadsheet reading guide for idiots while you're at it. :mrgreen:

 

In all seriousness, yes I think it would help people such as myself determine if i want to stay focused more through the training, and I appreciate the work you put into these spreadsheets as it benefits myself.

 

=( i don't wanna write a spreadsheet reading guide.

I think I had instructions in my guide at some point, people just don't read them.

Maybe they'll read it if I put an image icon that says "How To Read" on it :P.

I'll think about it.

 

 

It'd certainly be nice to know, but I wouldn't calculate it into efficiency, as it's not linear (as you said) and some people can stand more clicks/hour than others. So just put it off to the side and let players make their own decisions about it.

I'll probably make it an option in the income spreadsheet, to count the value of clicks linearly or not.

I'd like to see the results, although I doubt I can contribute to this much (since I really only train dg/farm at the moment).

It also depends on how the clicks go.

 

Technically dropping bones and dropping hides is the same amount of clicks, but dropping bones is harder because you can't use mousekeys, etc.

Well, actually, would it be a bad idea to have a spreadsheet of efficient moneymaking? makes sense to me if you have enough helpers for it(as i understand how much work would be needed for objective input).

 

As for the programming, i was more or less hoping you would lead(or link) us to a good program, not develop it yourself.

Well, actually, would it be a bad idea to have a spreadsheet of efficient moneymaking? makes sense to me if you have enough helpers for it(as i understand how much work would be needed for objective input).

 

As for the programming, i was more or less hoping you would lead(or link) us to a good program, not develop it yourself.

I've considered doing a list of efficient money makers, but I've never gotten around due to subjectivity.

It'd be a lot of work getting kill rates and drop rates.

 

For example: we'd need to know the draconic visage drop rate rather accurately to estimate the expected income of iron/steel dragons.

 

I'm a little picky about what I spend my time working on these days, since I'm pretty busy irl.

 

I wouldn't have any more idea where to find such a program than you would :P

But sure, we could something like that eventually. But don't quote me on when =\

What pulse can be used to record keys/clicks and after a set amount of clicks/keys it can pulse(consider this as a reset).

Well, actually, would it be a bad idea to have a spreadsheet of efficient moneymaking? makes sense to me if you have enough helpers for it(as i understand how much work would be needed for objective input).

 

As for the programming, i was more or less hoping you would lead(or link) us to a good program, not develop it yourself.

Doesnt Qeltar have a fairly large moneymaking guide out?

Doesnt Qeltar have a fairly large moneymaking guide out?

Qeltar is occasionally slightly less accurate than Grimy.

Doesnt Qeltar have a fairly large moneymaking guide out?

Qeltar is occasionally slightly less accurate than Grimy.

Never really tested them, i was just saying lol

Well, actually, would it be a bad idea to have a spreadsheet of efficient moneymaking? makes sense to me if you have enough helpers for it(as i understand how much work would be needed for objective input).

 

As for the programming, i was more or less hoping you would lead(or link) us to a good program, not develop it yourself.

Doesnt Qeltar have a fairly large moneymaking guide out?

I think money makers over 1.5 mil gp/hour, qeltar requires membership to his site for?

his lists of money makers list was always capped at just over 1 mil ish gp/hour, which is pretty low nowadays.

granted i never bought membership to his site.

IIRC his site isn't updated anymore.Read a few topics there and there was a notice message about that.

Its not being updated anymore, except for prices i think, which are automatic.

no - i can figure it out intuitively