jsboutin2 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hello, I quite recently decided to get a rapier, and I'm training dungeoneering on and off to achieve this. First, I was doing my floors over 30 in w117 larges (I can't get in teams otherwise), but I got bored of people killing every single monster, wasting time, taking 1,5 hours/large, and leave you alone with a level 400 boss, getting 4 deaths once in a while. I recently decided to make a full run while soloing with 1-25 c1s, 26-3x med. I can do a med in about 25 minutes (Lack of focus, there) and my c1s in an average of 5 minutes. Basically, 425 minutes for a 1-38 run, or 7h5m Now I at f30, and I'm not sure wheter to go with teams or solo. Basically, is the difference very big? I much prefer soloing, but if I'm giving up on massive xp/h, that's different. Am I just unlucky with w117 teams? Are there any teams for level 120+ people with lower than 80 dungeoneering? I haven't found any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 The best way to get good w117 teams is to start them yourself and be VERY selective about who you let in. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepsiguy Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 ya, be selective, when you find a good team, ask them if you want to be dg buddies, get like 10 dg buddies so you can always have people that want to dg The once was a mexican called pepsi,Or maybe it's just he had Hep C,He was a pretty cool bro,Bros generally are you know,He hailed from the land of 'taters,He was known to hate many-a-hater,He likes a girl named Lacey,His thoughts about her are kind of racy,And also his dad likes to [rooster]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Oh, and learn to key. Any team is good with a good keyer and four beatsticks. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettrider Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I would suggest just doing 1-24 or 1-29 c1 and the rest solo med. W117 is not worth it, period. You can try w77 (just as bad), other worlds aren't going to be as accepting until 80-90 dungeoneering. A couple advantages of solo meds are: -You dictate your own pace (with practice you should be able to get under 20 minutes consistently, regardless of boss)-Any hood drops you get are yours alone to bind instead of fighting over them-No time spent getting teams; you are dependent on others not quitting. So yeah, I would just work on soloing and trying to improve your times.See if you can't refine your technique and get 4:30 c1s and 20 minute mediums.Keep going and try to hit long-term averages of 4:00 c1s (that includes time between floors) and 16-17 minute mediums. 2496 Completionist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 The best way to get good w117 teams is to start them yourself and be VERY selective about who you let in. I tried, but if I spend 15 minutes finding people, it's not doing any good. And you can't ask for what you don't have... ya, be selective, when you find a good team, ask them if you want to be dg buddies, get like 10 dg buddies so you can always have people that want to dg In my experience, people forget about people they add in minutes. Oh, and learn to key. Any team is good with a good keyer and four beatsticks. I try to key, but usually the guy starting with ggs will do it or, worse, a random person ill start taking the keys he sees without telling me. I would suggest just doing 1-24 or 1-29 c1 and the rest solo med. W117 is not worth it, period. You can try w77 (just as bad), other worlds aren't going to be as accepting until 80-90 dungeoneering. A couple advantages of solo meds are: -You dictate your own pace (with practice you should be able to get under 20 minutes consistently, regardless of boss)-Any hood drops you get are yours alone to bind instead of fighting over them-No time spent getting teams; you are dependent on others not quitting. So yeah, I would just work on soloing and trying to improve your times.See if you can't refine your technique and get 4:30 c1s and 20 minute mediums.Keep going and try to hit long-term averages of 4:00 c1s (that includes time between floors) and 16-17 minute mediums. Seems like good goals to me. I think I'll go that way... Thanks everyone, and if anyone has more insight, it's always welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 FRIENDS FRIENDS FRIENDS Best way until you can go with good people. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettrider Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 FRIENDS FRIENDS FRIENDS Best way until you can go with good people. Depends on if your friends are dungeoneering properly or not. If they are, then I would agree, do 2:2 or 3:3 or whatever you can find over 1:1s. 2496 Completionist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneFrank Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Ask some nice people in dg clans or know how to dg like a pro.To dg with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Lol lately I've found this is what w117 is like: At the start of the dungeon: anyone want to key?.........10 minutes later, whos keying?.........No one ever wants to key, so you have to key yourself most likely. I had to key from for the last several larges on 117 and its very laggy. gl to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Why would you not key?If you let some idiot key that just hangs with the group, then it's gonna take over 35-40 minutes to do a dung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormveritas Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 It's not efficient at all, but I tend to just do solo meds. There is nothing worse than spending an hour on a large and dying four times because all the people you are with refuse to risk dying against a boss and leave you high and dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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