ghjkl Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Must be purchased from the reward trader of Daemonheim.Boosts your ranged attack by 20% and Defence by 25%.Does it mean range defense or just defense that it boosts by 25? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumondskull6 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Must be purchased from the reward trader of Daemonheim.Boosts your ranged attack by 20% and Defence by 25%.Does it mean range defense or just defense that it boosts by 25? It boosts your defense by 25%, not ranged defense. Which, depending on how the range/mage defense calculations work, I can't remember, will give a 17.5% range defense bonus or a 7.5% range defense bonus. (I can't remember if Ranged defense is calculated with 70% range level and 30% defense or vise versa?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Must be purchased from the reward trader of Daemonheim.Boosts your ranged attack by 20% and Defence by 25%.Does it mean range defense or just defense that it boosts by 25? It boosts your defense by 25%, not ranged defense. Which, depending on how the range/mage defense calculations work, I can't remember, will give a 17.5% range defense bonus or a 7.5% range defense bonus. (I can't remember if Ranged defense is calculated with 70% range level and 30% defense or vise versa?) Er, MAGE is the combat skill that takes itself into account for defence against it. Pretty sure melee/range def just depends on your def level. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumondskull6 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Must be purchased from the reward trader of Daemonheim.Boosts your ranged attack by 20% and Defence by 25%.Does it mean range defense or just defense that it boosts by 25? It boosts your defense by 25%, not ranged defense. Which, depending on how the range/mage defense calculations work, I can't remember, will give a 17.5% range defense bonus or a 7.5% range defense bonus. (I can't remember if Ranged defense is calculated with 70% range level and 30% defense or vise versa?) Er, MAGE is the combat skill that takes itself into account for defence against it. Pretty sure melee/range def just depends on your def level. I'm 110% positive that it's both range and mage.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 i'm 99% positive it's only mage. because I don't find it any easier/harder to hit someone with range if their level is lower or higher. And if that were the case, how the hell are we able to hit K'ree ara? Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbleed Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 It just means 20% to your range level, and 25% to your defence lvl,dont overthink it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythrandir Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Must be purchased from the reward trader of Daemonheim.Boosts your ranged attack by 20% and Defence by 25%.Does it mean range defense or just defense that it boosts by 25? It boosts your defense by 25%, not ranged defense. Which, depending on how the range/mage defense calculations work, I can't remember, will give a 17.5% range defense bonus or a 7.5% range defense bonus. (I can't remember if Ranged defense is calculated with 70% range level and 30% defense or vise versa?) Er, MAGE is the combat skill that takes itself into account for defence against it. Pretty sure melee/range def just depends on your def level. I'm 110% positive that it's both range and mage.. It's only magic, not ranged, and to reiterate what others have already said, it boosts your defense level; there is no ranged defense (other than armor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWars Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Normal defence affects both magic, melee and ranging. Magic level has nothing to do with ranged or melee, but it has to do with magic.Magic defence = 70% magic level, 30% defence level.Melee defence 100% defence levelRanging defence = 100% defence level(i.e. only looking at levels, obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Normal defence affects both magic, melee and ranging. Magic level has nothing to do with ranged or melee, but it has to do with magic.Magic defence = 70% magic level, 30% defence level.Melee defence 100% defence levelRanging defence = 100% defence level(i.e. only looking at levels, obviously) This. The in-game "logic" behind it is thus: Defence level is how well you can dodge, evade and otherwise resist physical damage. eg a weapon stabbing into you or an arrow hitting you. (they do after all ultimately both rely on a bit of metal doing physical damage to you)Magic defence is taken mostly from mage level because magic uses magical energy to damage. The better you control such energy, the better you can resist it. Also it isn't primarily physical damage; beyond the relatively weak impact of energy upon you its damage comes from the energy being released. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Normal defence affects both magic, melee and ranging. Magic level has nothing to do with ranged or melee, but it has to do with magic.Magic defence = 70% magic level, 30% defence level.Melee defence 100% defence levelRanging defence = 100% defence level(i.e. only looking at levels, obviously)How sure are you in the 70:30 for magic defense? I mean, this assessment is very likely true in principle(although there might be small components added in melee/range defense aswell that we don't know about), but the number just seems to be thrown out there. I'd like to see the proof that it isn't, for example, 100% magic defense+ 50% defense level, adding to about the same proportions, but not being limited to just 100% total(of which there is no proof). First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I'm pretty sure jagex told us how magic defense works somewhere, can't remember where, and I'm not going to look for it. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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