DarkDude Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 People did make a lot of money off the climbing boots change, I am not going to give any names but someone on staff here profited from it and made a few hundred million for one, I'm sure they're not the only one. Wow, read what I JUST posted.How the hell would you even legitly know? The only people that could provide an overall statistic would be Jagex.& Them alone saying so & so DID IN FACT profit of such and such would make them look bad - How it did from the start before they provided that possible hoaxed info. I guarantee you some people made out quite nicely. How would I know that they had lots of them? Because I saw screenshots, various people saw them in game and confirmed that they had them, so yeah it did happen. I wasn't arguing with your point at all (which isn't much of one and makes no sense to be honest), I was pointing out to the person who said no one had thousands of them, they're wrong, some people did and I was providing an example of that. Several Jagex mods have said that the effect the climbing boot change had on the economy was microscopic, much less than all the money bought into the game each day, they've even said this to me in person from the mod who is responsible for managing the prices of the items in the GE. So yeah, people did profit off it, not many had thousands but still a lot of people profited off it. I had a few hundred in my bank just a few months before this and sold them off so I could have easily profited from it if I held on and I hadn't even PKed in ages. The reaction from the community had a much bigger effect on the economy than the actual change itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 People did make a lot of money off the climbing boots change, I am not going to give any names but someone on staff here profited from it and made a few hundred million for one, I'm sure they're not the only one. Wow, read what I JUST posted.How the hell would you even legitly know? The only people that could provide an overall statistic would be Jagex.& Them alone saying so & so DID IN FACT profit of such and such would make them look bad - How it did from the start before they provided that possible hoaxed info. I guarantee you some people made out quite nicely. How would I know that they had lots of them? Because I saw screenshots, various people saw them in game and confirmed that they had them, so yeah it did happen. I wasn't arguing with your point at all (which isn't much of one and makes no sense to be honest), I was pointing out to the person who said no one had thousands of them, they're wrong, some people did and I was providing an example of that. Several Jagex mods have said that the effect the climbing boot change had on the economy was microscopic, much less than all the money bought into the game each day, they've even said this to me in person from the mod who is responsible for managing the prices of the items in the GE. So yeah, people did profit off it, not many had thousands but still a lot of people profited off it. I had a few hundred in my bank just a few months before this and sold them off so I could have easily profited from it if I held on and I hadn't even PKed in ages. The reaction from the community had a much bigger effect on the economy than the actual change itself. Of course there are alternative legitimate sources, Mod Mark saying "only a few players have over 700 boots" but how far is he talking when he says over 700? I know of one persons who I can confirm made a few hundred million of the update, you don't go from rags to riches with a fake screenshot now do you ;) And I agree about it's players who dictate the economy, you look at January 2010 for example the mention of new 80 defence armours coming in 2010, bandos/armadyl crashed for what a week with people panic selling? although there was no proof of when it was to come; the balance/stats/resourcefulness of those armours, players over-react in given circumstances (this is elementary economics of course). I'm sure you'll agree (which is definitely going to get lots of disagrees) that this isn't going to effect hoarders one slight bit, they'll find another item to invest in. Surely Jagex should be looking for a more long-term than short-term solution and really needs to think of balance with future items that aren't useless and easy and everybody can get (mint cakes & amulet of accurays). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 I personally made 4m from climbing boots. I had a stock of them to use as questing fodder. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 How weird. I think Jagex really needs to admit that some serious flaw in the GE has caused this. We all know it's merchanters, but does Jagex know or care to admit it? But seriously, damn. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 What would admittance do? Guilt trip the merchanters into stopping their ways? :roll: | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 How weird. I think Jagex really needs to admit that some serious flaw in the GE has caused this. We all know it's merchanters, but does Jagex know or care to admit it? But seriously, damn. You have to remember in this case it's an outdated quest from RuneScape Classic, they had no idea of the success they'd have or the number of players playing now. One amulet for one player I guess was ok back in 2001 but not now in 2010 now it's seen as a way around the Grand Exchange ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 How weird. I think Jagex really needs to admit that some serious flaw in the GE has caused this. We all know it's merchanters, but does Jagex know or care to admit it? But seriously, damn. You have to remember in this case it's an outdated quest from RuneScape Classic, they had no idea of the success they'd have or the number of players playing now. One amulet for one player I guess was ok back in 2001 but not now in 2010 now it's seen as a way around the Grand Exchange ;) Mmm, you're probably right about that. I wonder what the merchanters are going to saw about this? It serves them right, though. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 People did make a lot of money off the climbing boots change, I am not going to give any names but someone on staff here profited from it and made a few hundred million for one, I'm sure they're not the only one. Wow, read what I JUST posted.How the hell would you even legitly know? The only people that could provide an overall statistic would be Jagex.& Them alone saying so & so DID IN FACT profit of such and such would make them look bad - How it did from the start before they provided that possible hoaxed info. I guarantee you some people made out quite nicely. How would I know that they had lots of them? Because I saw screenshots, various people saw them in game and confirmed that they had them, so yeah it did happen. I wasn't arguing with your point at all (which isn't much of one and makes no sense to be honest), I was pointing out to the person who said no one had thousands of them, they're wrong, some people did and I was providing an example of that. Several Jagex mods have said that the effect the climbing boot change had on the economy was microscopic, much less than all the money bought into the game each day, they've even said this to me in person from the mod who is responsible for managing the prices of the items in the GE. So yeah, people did profit off it, not many had thousands but still a lot of people profited off it. I had a few hundred in my bank just a few months before this and sold them off so I could have easily profited from it if I held on and I hadn't even PKed in ages. The reaction from the community had a much bigger effect on the economy than the actual change itself. Of course there are alternative legitimate sources, Mod Mark saying "only a few players have over 700 boots" but how far is he talking when he says over 700? I know of one persons who I can confirm made a few hundred million of the update, you don't go from rags to riches with a fake screenshot now do you ;) And I agree about it's players who dictate the economy, you look at January 2010 for example the mention of new 80 defence armours coming in 2010, bandos/armadyl crashed for what a week with people panic selling? although there was no proof of when it was to come; the balance/stats/resourcefulness of those armours, players over-react in given circumstances (this is elementary economics of course). I'm sure you'll agree (which is definitely going to get lots of disagrees) that this isn't going to effect hoarders one slight bit, they'll find another item to invest in. Surely Jagex should be looking for a more long-term than short-term solution and really needs to think of balance with future items that aren't useless and easy and everybody can get (mint cakes & amulet of accurays). The way I see it, this potentially hurting merchanters is just a side effect - no reason why this item couldn't be replaceable if you lost it after the quest. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Gabe Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 You do know you could have just added your whole thread to another one of the already existing threads? There's no need for you to create new topic for every little thing you discover. Three months banishment to 9gag is something i would never wish upon anybody, not even my worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undo Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 I personally made 4m from climbing boots. I had a stock of them to use as questing fodder. That's cool.I appreciate you posting that here hon. 1. "My ear's in a cup, I guess that doesn't count..."2. "So heyyy, that's a pretty reasonable reaction huh?"3. "So you up for NAFTA?"4. "That went exactly how I wanted it to." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Reminds me of the mint cakes nerf. I don't have anything about price manipulators, but I think there should be a rsk in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PereGrin Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 This might be the only relevant topic you've ever made (except for the drivel about rares being changed like the amulets are). It sounds like these were being merched by manipulation clans, which I think is funny.Accuracy amulets were not exactly being bought out by a manipulation clan. Players with lots of spare cash would buy up accuracy amulets as junk. One guy, Mink, who owns a cracker last I heard, and multiple party hats, had tons of money stored in accuracy ammys because they seemed to be guaranteed never to fall with such a limited supply of them entering the game. This update basically GF'ed multiple Bils of worth out of his bank. Plenty of the rich merchers try to do solo buyouts of different things. Combat potions, accuracy amulets, and other things like that. If you have a solo buyout, you can use it as junk because it is essentially guaranteed not to crash. Except jagex announced they were going to do just that. Think like the reverse of climbing boots. Instead of jagex screwing over people by giving select people millions of GP, jagex screwed the rich by saying they were going to manually change the price of a commonly used stable junk item down by the same way they changed climbing boots up. Anyway's, Mink dumped all his rares for cheap. I am not sure if he actually sold his cracker earlier this year, I know he tried to. But I know he was selling party hats for straight cash. At least some purples and yellows for like 1.1B each, junk was ammys. Till he ran out of ammys. Should drive lower party hats down some, and I think people have already noticed it that purple is dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_Fox Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Did you disagree with the person who agreed with you? :wall: :wall: Yes.Only because I'm providing different reasonings from his/her mislead information. Are you freakin' kidding me? :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PereGrin Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Did you disagree with the person who agreed with you? :wall: :wall: Yes.Only because I'm providing different reasonings from his/her mislead information. Are you freakin' kidding me? :roll:The OP doesn't bother thinking about things. He disagrees with people cause he things that arguing with someone makes you look smart. Who cares if he argues against himself. Perhaps, given the right conditions, he might make a thread, and actually argue with himself. No one else would need to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehosaphat Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Honestly, they could've just implemented a way for low-level players to easily regain them, and the prices would deflate on their own. No need for more price fixing. Also, chatspeak in topic title is a big turnaway, especially when it's seemingly randomly stuck onto the end of the title. I mean, I could start a topic called "Soloing Bandos For The Low-Level Player" or "Soloing Bandos For People Who Sux at Life and get LOLed at by pros - ROFLWTHBBQOMG". Which one do you think would garner more traffic? (On a sensible forum, not the RSOF.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 It's nice that Jagex finally realized the problem with amulets of accuracies. Ever since their price reached around 6k or so, I knew something was fishy. Now I checked again, and they're 68k. For something so useless even in f2p, wow. The obvious solution is for Wizard Trailborn (or whatever the heck his name is) to give you another amulet of accuracy in case you happen to lose it. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PereGrin Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 He created this thread to bring in fodder for his "sling" thread where he was trying to sell a white and a purple because phats are dropping because this amulet of accuracy update GF'ed the Rare owners banks. They had a sell off, and now his Phats are dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodAngel Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 I always wondered why you couldn't get a new Amulet of Accuracy if you lost it except from buying from other players, especially since it's not the most useful amulet in the game for most players. As Toad said though, it's one of those things that worked fine in the early days of RS but now seems like an overlook on Jagex's part.I guess this is where the risk element of being a merchant comes in. "Unfortunately, the real world isn't the same as a fairy tale." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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