Nexaduro Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Heh, thanks to BOnSAI's research, I can do much more than stun you... I recommend you don't come after me with anything made off metal. The Kinesis Gear could probably tear a tank to shreds, and my CN2.0 Suit would have a fair chance. 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Sounds cool. Though I'll only be advancing my Psionics in order to acess more thoguht based tech. It's proven to be incredibly usefull.... Sometimes. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Fair enough, I at least trust you not to destroy too much with most of that... Intentionally, at least. 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 See, this is why I have methods to combat psionics. Faust, I'd prefer it if you didn't keep this Kinesis Gear from me. In fact, this whole secrecy thing you have going on with BonSAI is beginning to scrape on me as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Wasn't planning to, Jeremiah. You quit as I was designing it, and I think wanting to keep it from some people is understandable. It also hasn't been created yet, as it requires 700kT in the most basic model. Also, didn't all the mining ships fail or something? EDIT: What secrecy thing with BOnSAI? 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Secrecy, meh. If something is good enough then nothing about it should be kept secret, if it is good enough then even its designs should spread fear among your enemies instead of hope. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yeah, but only because the bridge got destroyed due to randumb tank. We still have 15 mining ships operational. I mean the whole "Who is altering what in the BonSAI protocols, what can it do/not do, etc." thing that you guys have flying around. I already removed all the protocols and set a single "Do not intentionally harm the crew in any way" protocol on it, but it seems people can't resist tampering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Ross, I only tampered because Retech should be able to make charecter decicions for himself, Chi forcibly re-installed the 'Obey Chi' stuff. He can make another scrap bot if he wants. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 All I did was scan it to try and see what the research was on, since Retech + Secret Research has brought up some issues in the past. Turns out I was sorta right to do so, between the stolen research and the bioweapon. :P 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yeah, that's what I was talking about. I don't think it should be allowed to secretely research things, given that there is a bioweapon and stolen research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Well I'm not keeping anything secret from you, in honesty, but all my past research has been deleted to prevent its being used as a springboard again. 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I have backups of literally everything, remember. I hope there isn't anything in there that would put a stain on your fairly decent record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Earth, my scrap bot, my rules. Jeremiah, with the protocols I'm planning, for it to harm any member of the Unity it must do so under your, mine or Lee's command. While I do understand that you may not want me to be able to give that sort of command, I have it so to make the list of protocols shorter (and thus less likely to screw up) and so that even if you're off, I can still give BOnSAI to defend itselves (wow, that sounded wierd) against any randomness from for example Nero. We three will also be unable to tell it to attack the other other two, but likely we may allow it to attack ourselves. The others may not use it to attack us or eachother and it may attack non-crewmembers for any reason at all. I will also give it a protocol to make sure it does not confuse revive with harm in the future. With these written into a mainframe in my room, only you, I and Lee may change them, and anyone else if I invite them in and give them access to change it.In that manner you could say BOnSAI will be safer than SI. Earth, when the second bot is done, Retech will have control of at least one body 99% of the time, and control of two bodies more often than one. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 <_< I have researched exactly three things. Level 30 Blitz, Level 30 Psionics, and Level 1 "Giant Frickin' Robots." Those are, for obvious reasons, private technologies, and I'd prefer you keep them where the rest of the crew can't access them. I'm a very Neutral Good character, if they want something from my tech I'd prefer they ask and let me make the decision. Obviously you have the right to override this, but I only just trust you to respect the creator's intention. 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Not your scrapbot anymore... And that list of protocols is very, very limited. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Earth, I made it, thus it is mine. Or you could make me another, but seing how there's no more scrap outside my room you'd be better of making a normal robot for yourself.Protocols are limited because they are rules, not permissions. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Mather, it is technically of my make and Techies make, since I upgraded the core, and he upgraded the body past scrapness. You made the original, but he constructed an entirely different sort of bot. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 <_< I have researched exactly three things. Level 30 Blitz, Level 30 Psionics, and Level 1 "Giant Frickin' Robots." Those are, for obvious reasons, private technologies, and I'd prefer you keep them where the rest of the crew can't access them. I'm a very Neutral Good character, if they want something from my tech I'd prefer they ask and let me make the decision. Obviously you have the right to override this, but I only just trust you to respect the creator's intention.Of course I'm not going to reveal your private tech to anyone. Just as I wouldn't reveal anyone elses private tech unless I believed it posed a direct threat to the safety of the crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Earth, Retech will still retain control of the robot, but even though you did upgrade the core it does not weigh up for the fact that I made the body and you stole it from me and actually did the upgrade without my permission. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I upgraded it because it would have been useless otherwise.. And Retech would have to obey you and your sometimes unreasonable demands. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Your tech would win over a player controled duo? Jeremiah, may I have permission to physically rewire my room? I want to limit who can enter and/or transport in (apparently, isolating it only means that those who transport in have to say the word override to enter, even though I added identity recognition instead of a password). I also want to move the only way of cutting the power to the inside, use a wall mounted computer as the only controll for the its systems (gravity, atmosphere, temperature...) and make a large mainframe on which BOnSAI can be uploaded for security instead of directly uploading... it, him, her?... directly to its/his/her bodies. Chi, let me list for you the methods to keep people from transporting into your room along with the problems they would cause:1) rebuild your quarters with magnicite in the walls, floors, ceilings, and doors. This would prevent everything from transporting in and out and would remove the room from sensor output, additionally resulting in frequent replacement of your outer door or the removal of locks on your doors2) manually override every transport restriction override, stopping the order until an officer resolves the conflicting orders. (though technically being a civilian as you have argued on before therefore being free from orders your orders to the computer would rank less than all military personel. ie. everyone) Unless you can convince the officer to side with you its only a stalling tactic.3) Mutiny and sieze the rank of captain, then issuing an order preventing all others from transporting into your room. you would die, repeatedly, or get launched into deep space4) blow up the transporter. see 35) manually reconfigure the transporter. see 36) reprogram SI. Die a miserable death, repeatedly for all time7) redefine the official location of your room. extreme confusion problems. restricting the ability to cut the power to your room would require installing your own private electrical system in your quarters as it will always be able to be cut from junction boxes or its direct connection to the main power generator your large mainframe would be defined as an AI Core, of which there are currently only two aboard the unity at this time to my knowledge, one which I personally own and use, and SI's note to self: ask SI if it is possible to build a vaccum resistant coffin, equipped with bottled air for 1 day, and engine equipment to get it up to .999999 of the speed of light and if so ask how much it would cost Thanks to DrCue at DeviantArt for the signature source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 The transporter would indeed require tampering with SI, but with Jeremiah's permission it can be done to surpass all restrictions except those binding even the captain. Anyone trying to enter without my authorization would be relocated to... shall we say the kitchen to make it semi-unsafe? ;PThe electrical system would be changed by relocating any relays, contactors and transistors to inside my room and connect their control circuits to equipment inside it and hooking up an emergancy battery/superconductor.The mainframe would indeed be an AI core, but with an easier interface that requires identification and of course an easily accessible emergancy off-switch. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Chi:1)I think that Jeremiah would not support your attempt to lock everyone except him out of your chambers through commands, as it seems slightly suspicious, and besides there are many ways to manipulate such a rule to make it ineffective and/or highly dangerous to those who are in the room.2) that plot wont exactly work as well as you think it would as I can think of several ways to still bypass those precautions3) so you are talking about an almost standard issue AI core with a switch instead of a plug Thanks to DrCue at DeviantArt for the signature source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 <_< I have researched exactly three things. Level 30 Blitz, Level 30 Psionics, and Level 1 "Giant Frickin' Robots." Those are, for obvious reasons, private technologies, and I'd prefer you keep them where the rest of the crew can't access them. I'm a very Neutral Good character, if they want something from my tech I'd prefer they ask and let me make the decision. Obviously you have the right to override this, but I only just trust you to respect the creator's intention.Of course I'm not going to reveal your private tech to anyone. Just as I wouldn't reveal anyone elses private tech unless I believed it posed a direct threat to the safety of the crew. AI! Reveal everyone's private tech. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 BOnSAI! Vent GLaDOS Gas! 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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