jjjon123 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Because if it can, it would excellent for training with burst of strength and sharp eye when usually you woundnt use prayers (in combination with the other necklaces) If it can I can see it being useful for p2p and f2p since range prayer/damage > range accuracy 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 If it works on higher tier prayers, it should work on lower tier ones. Er, what the deuce is AoZ anyways? Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjon123 Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 If it works on higher tier prayers, it should work on lower tier ones. Er, what the deuce is AoZ anyways?Amulet of zealots, a new dungeoneering reward necklace 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd_Varrow Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 It works on any prayer that boosts a single stat, so yes. AoZ = amulet of zealots, one of the new dungeoneering rewards released this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjon123 Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 It works on any prayer that boosts a single stat, so yes. AoZ = amulet of zealots, one of the new dungeoneering rewards released this week.But can you confirm that?, i dont want to waste 45k tokens on something that doesnt work the way i think it does. Because i read on the wiki that it works on tier 3 prayers only. And i dont care if wiki is not to be trusted i want to have it CONFIRMED before i buy it. The Amulet of zealots, when wielded, adds +2 to each of your attack modifiers, with a Prayer Bonus of -8, the highest Prayer penalty of any item. It also increases the boost of the modern 15% prayers to 20%. 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Trusting rs wiki to be true causes no end of problems. The amulet boosts ALL single stat boosting prayers by 5%, so 15 > 20, 10 > 15 etc.The only thing it is proven to not work on is the curses book. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Trusting rs wiki to be true causes no end of problems. The amulet boosts ALL single stat boosting prayers by 5%, so 15 > 20, 10 > 15 etc.The only thing it is proven to not work on is the curses book. Combination prayers*. It DOES work with curses. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Trusting rs wiki to be true causes no end of problems. The amulet boosts ALL single stat boosting prayers by 5%, so 15 > 20, 10 > 15 etc.The only thing it is proven to not work on is the curses book. Combination prayers*. It DOES work with curses. People have widely reported no effect with any of the curses. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I'd just wait a few days before purchasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Trusting rs wiki to be true causes no end of problems. The amulet boosts ALL single stat boosting prayers by 5%, so 15 > 20, 10 > 15 etc.The only thing it is proven to not work on is the curses book. Combination prayers*. It DOES work with curses. People have widely reported no effect with any of the curses. Interesting. I've seen the opposite. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 The problem with the logic of ''hey, i get 10% added for the cost of 5% prayer'' is that you also lose 8(or 11 compared to fury) prayer bonus, which may or may not cost you more prayer points in the end(assuming you'd have just used the 10% in the first place). I don't see the new amulet having alot of uses, furthermore, considering it costs 45k tokens. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 the -8 is a good argument until you consider prayer setups.Its proven the higher ur prayer bonus the less effect it has. Like +1 from 0 will save alot more than +1 from 21.So when the best prayer get ups in game can easily push 30+ prayer bonus and anything over 20 isn't hugely useful the -8 becomes some what irrelevant. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 the -8 is a good argument until you consider prayer setups.Its proven the higher ur prayer bonus the less effect it has. Like +1 from 0 will save alot more than +1 from 21.So when the best prayer get ups in game can easily push 30+ prayer bonus and anything over 20 isn't hugely useful the -8 becomes some what irrelevant. But you can't use turmoil/piety with it, so having a high prayer bonus doesn't even matter. It really just sucks altogether. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 the -8 is a good argument until you consider prayer setups.Its proven the higher ur prayer bonus the less effect it has. Like +1 from 0 will save alot more than +1 from 21.So when the best prayer get ups in game can easily push 30+ prayer bonus and anything over 20 isn't hugely useful the -8 becomes some what irrelevant. But you can't use turmoil/piety with it, so having a high prayer bonus doesn't even matter. It really just sucks altogether. Piety/Turmoil arent always the best options prayer wise even before this.And with this you can get the same mage boost, range boost and attack boost as piety etc with much lower slower draining prayers. You can't quite get the same str and def boost, but still pretty decent given the lower drain rate (20% vs 25% for def and 20% vs 23% for str) Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Turmoil has always been the best, also before this, unless you are not meleeing. Furthermore, the f2p pray bonus with that amulet would be +4 (monk's robes, explorer's ring) and with only the necklace to restore prayer I don't see it being useful for anything. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 The problem with the logic of ''hey, i get 10% added for the cost of 5% prayer'' is that you also lose 8(or 11 compared to fury) prayer bonus, which may or may not cost you more prayer points in the end(assuming you'd have just used the 10% in the first place). I don't see the new amulet having alot of uses, furthermore, considering it costs 45k tokens.Considering that the OP is F2P, and this necklace is the only way of recharging prayer away from an altar this could be a great way to increase training efficiency. http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22 99 Necromancy since 11/22/25 Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 33 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 10 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 The problem with the logic of ''hey, i get 10% added for the cost of 5% prayer'' is that you also lose 8(or 11 compared to fury) prayer bonus, which may or may not cost you more prayer points in the end(assuming you'd have just used the 10% in the first place). I don't see the new amulet having alot of uses, furthermore, considering it costs 45k tokens.Considering that the OP is F2P, and this necklace is the only way of recharging prayer away from an altar this could be a great way to increase training efficiency.Wrong necklace, pal(and a stupid post thereafter). Also, sy, 15%(20% with ammy) def, str and attack would be much higher drain rate than piety(1 vs 1.5 pp/s) and 15% str and attack(20% with necklace) would be the same drainrate as piety BEFORE factoring in the loss of 11 prayer bonus(and let's be clear about it, it's a 11(13 with fury) point loss, not 8) and alot of other bonuses thus it's never worth using for p2p melee. For f2p melee, as there are very few prayer bonuses, it's only worth using when you are fighting in front of an altar, otherwise the prayer point consumption is going to kill you(not to mention, in a no-prayer-recharge fight, you should only use protection prayers). For ranged, it's somewhat better, although it's still clearly beaten by rigour(which you should definitely get). For magic, it's ****. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjon123 Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 Thanks all for fighting over my humble little question, it makes me feel important :D Upon further testing, prayer drain calcs, and prayer equipment setups, i have come to find out that the only use for it is F2P pvp.Using a split dragontooth necklace and hawk eye lasts minutely less than using the AoZ and sharp eye. Its even more useless when it comes to stregnth prayers (might as well use a str ammy + SDN for prayer restore) 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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