Octarine Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Basically, runewiki states grarrs attacks are Melee and a Magical Ranged attack So, if I'm tanking and praying melee as you do, is it best for me to be maxing my mage defence (since the other attack is mage based range) or is it best to still go with ranged def?*supposedly* full karils works very well, but that could just be someones false data from one kill or so. Blog of DG, Bossing (mostly Glacors) and stuff - Runetrack Play Safe! - Got useful information for the tip.it website? Post here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 agh when will this rumor die his ranged attack is ranged based. magic defence helps against the mage minion's attack How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Bladewing is right. As your ranged defence increases, the amount of damage done by the mage mini starts increasing relative to the damage done by Graardor and the ranged mini, to the point it's worth lowering ranged defence for magic defence (high magic levels are also recommended for the same reason). What my question is (I'll add that on here) is whether bandos + spectral beats tassets, karil's top and dfs. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 A good thing to do is to check place other than Runeqiki when gathering information. It is ranged based, but the magic minion can do a fair amount of damage as it attacks constantly unlike his ranged attack. I found it best to mix karil's top with tassets to counter both. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 spectral is better than DFS How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octarine Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Thanks guys, good to get this clarified :)I'l go with the usual karils top and veracs skirt then (dont have tassys) Blog of DG, Bossing (mostly Glacors) and stuff - Runetrack Play Safe! - Got useful information for the tip.it website? Post here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 A good thing to do is to check place other than Runeqiki when gathering information. It is ranged based, but the magic minion can do a fair amount of damage as it attacks constantly unlike his ranged attack. I found it best to mix karil's top with tassets to counter both.If going karils I would really recommend black dhide: only 1 less magic defense, but 10ish more range defense.... As well as a possible item to protect from zamorak! First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 disregard the above poster karil top vs. dhide top karils top has 15 more magic defence AND 2 more ranged defence How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I edited out that Magical range crap awhile ago...who put it back in ? -.- Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexiledRazz Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Blarg. I have no idea why the Runewiki still says that. It's completely false. They're getting it confused with the fact that the attack isn't an arrow or a bolt, but a seemingly magical energy. But protect from range is what blocks out it's damage. That's why they're miss-labeling it. I think... Example of a true type of attack that is based on one type, but attacks with a different type: Bloodvelds. Their attack is magic based, but they have to be in melee range to use it. Hence the name: Magic based melee attack. So, protect from melee(Not protect from mage) will block out all damage, but dhides/karils is the advised armor choice. Though granted it is hard to document mage-based range attacks, or range-based mage attacks since they can all be cast/fired from a distance. It's still not worth documenting it as a "magical range" as everyone is getting confused. Hexiled Razz. Player since March 8th, 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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