Dungeoneering ranged

[Th e Doctor]

The word you're looking for is "completionist". Perfectionists try to do everything perfect.

 

And in WoW you get achievements for finishing all the quests. In RS you get nothing but wasted time for doing everything in a dungeon.

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Thanks for the replies. I understand that when teaming you could better use melee but I dislike teaming and I don't think I Will do that anytime soon. I really like dungeoneering the way i play it now. I think it is better to have fun while being less efficient then to dislike it (also I think me being a perfectionist (not sure if that is english) slows me down a lot))

again, again, again...(yeah, i can keep repeating this forever)

 

Efficiency doesn't exclude fun. If you think that you are a moron. Most of the efficient dungeoneering teams have been fun, while soloing is extremely boring. You are also missing an important community aspect of dungeoneering when soloing, so you might reconsider those views.

[BeNiceOk]

Thanks for the replies. I understand that when teaming you could better use melee but I dislike teaming and I don't think I Will do that anytime soon. I really like dungeoneering the way i play it now. I think it is better to have fun while being less efficient then to dislike it (also I think me being a perfectionist (not sure if that is english) slows me down a lot))

again, again, again...(yeah, i can keep repeating this forever)

 

Efficiency doesn't exclude fun. If you think that you are a moron. Most of the efficient dungeoneering teams have been fun, while soloing is extremely boring. You are also missing an important community aspect of dungeoneering when soloing, so you might reconsider those views.

 

Also remember that "fun", "boring" and "perfectionist" are all points of view.

 

In one persons situation, they may set a goal of clearing an entire floor of all NPC's. To aspire to reach this goal would mean you reach "perfection" once you complete it. You can't get any more "perfect" at elimination of NPC's than actually clearing them all.

 

That being said, this is not always "efficient". You can still be "perfect" at gaining as much additional non-dungeon XP as possible per floor, but be un-efficient at gaining XP per hour in dungeon and non-dungeon skills by doing so.

 

Nobody is really saying rushing dungeon isn't fun for everyone, but they are also not saying rushing dungeon is fun for everyone. Its a point of view, and to force your point of view on someone else and tell them that is the way it HAS to be, is neither helpful nor good advice.

 

That being said...

 

Using ranged is not efficient in a dungeon for XP/hr. However, since it appears you are not after the best XP/hr, ranged is a good way to complete dungeons. It allows you to safe-spot alot of monsters, which you mentioned is a useful tactic you wanted to expand upon.

 

In the case of a bow, I found sag short bow (or the best you can use) to be useful. On monsters such as warriors, using magic is far superior. Binding a (empowered) firestaff, arrows, and a bow may be a good idea. You could alternatively bind a bow, melee weapon, and arrows for a more close range approach.

 

Longbow is slow and has some powerful ranged attack points, however I find these are often not needed in solo dungeons. The majority of the NPC's will be lower levels, and you should have little trouble hitting non-warriors with a shortbow. You can always swap later if you prefer one to the other.

[essiw]

@Katori

Thanks for explaining what I meant by me being a perfectionist, couldn't have done that better myself.

Also thanks for the information about dungeoneering :)

 

 

Thanks for the replies. I understand that when teaming you could better use melee but I dislike teaming and I don't think I Will do that anytime soon. I really like dungeoneering the way i play it now. I think it is better to have fun while being less efficient then to dislike it (also I think me being a perfectionist (not sure if that is english) slows me down a lot))

again, again, again...(yeah, i can keep repeating this forever)

 

Efficiency doesn't exclude fun. If you think that you are a moron. Most of the efficient dungeoneering teams have been fun, while soloing is extremely boring. You are also missing an important community aspect of dungeoneering when soloing, so you might reconsider those views.

I never said that, I said this:

It is better to have fun while being less efficient then to dislike it.

that means that if you don't have fun while being efficient it is better (my opinion) to be less efficient.

[Th e Doctor]

Perfectionist is not a point of view. It means you strive to be perfect or the best. And using range in dg is the worst way to kill anything in DG

 

If you strive to do everything in a dungeon it makes you a completionist and the most inefficient dungeoneerer (that word sounds weird) that there is. If you're doing it for fun then fine, but its far from perfectionistic.

[essiw]

Perfectionist is not a point of view. It means you strive to be perfect or the best. And using range in dg is the worst way to kill anything in DG

 

If you strive to do everything in a dungeon it makes you a completionist and the most inefficient dungeoneerer (that word sounds weird) that there is. If you're doing it for fun then fine, but its far from perfectionistic.

That is not a word in my language (and google only gives me gaming results). And from wikipedia: "In the workplace, perfectionism is often marked by low productivity as individuals lose time and energy on small irrelevant details of larger projects or mundane daily activities." Altough you have a point, I am only a bit perfectionistic. And maybe the word perfectionist is not exactly the same in english as in dutch, maybe the dutch version includes the completionist you speak of ;)

 

But w/e we should stop arguing about the meaning of a word, you got the point I was trying to make ;)