Quyneax Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Do they? I never fully bought that. Either way, the FSH isn't a ranged level bonus as far as I know, it's specifically a 15% ranged accuracy and damage boost, and we know the damage boost doesn't apply. I suppose it just depends on the whim of a random Jagex developer, but it doesn't seem consistent for it to work. I don't think the void bonus helps, does it?FSH is a level boost like the salve amulet - the highest of the two is taken, the other doesn't function. Void is an accuracy and damage boost - it stacks with a salve. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Do they? I never fully bought that. Either way, the FSH isn't a ranged level bonus as far as I know, it's specifically a 15% ranged accuracy and damage boost, and we know the damage boost doesn't apply. I suppose it just depends on the whim of a random Jagex developer, but it doesn't seem consistent for it to work. I don't think the void bonus helps, does it?FSH is a level boost like the salve amulet - the highest of the two is taken, the other doesn't function. Void is an accuracy and damage boost - it stacks with a salve.wat. The question was whether the void ranged bonus affects cannon accuracy. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I only replied to the first part of your post, the fsh being a 15% accuracy and damage boost, which it isn't. The second part, about void - I don't have a clue. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatherdeath Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Would black mask alone have a high enough value to be protected over other important items? It seems like the only item out of FHS you would use so why not take just it since it has higher protect value? Rune protects over black mask, so I doubt it would protect over much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Do they? I never fully bought that. Either way, the FSH isn't a ranged level bonus as far as I know, it's specifically a 15% ranged accuracy and damage boost, and we know the damage boost doesn't apply. I suppose it just depends on the whim of a random Jagex developer, but it doesn't seem consistent for it to work. I don't think the void bonus helps, does it?FSH is a level boost like the salve amulet - the highest of the two is taken, the other doesn't function. Void is an accuracy and damage boost - it stacks with a salve.wat. The question was whether the void ranged bonus affects cannon accuracy. I was under the impression that the cannon's accuracy was based on your HIGHEST attack stat. So in the case of wielding a rapier, it's accuracy would be based on your Stab stat.If that is the case, any void set should in theory increase the accuracy, assuming you are using the correct void helm, with the correct style of combat. Unless the cannon accuracy thing has been disproven somehow, then I have no idea. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose No Hope Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Do they? I never fully bought that. Either way, the FSH isn't a ranged level bonus as far as I know, it's specifically a 15% ranged accuracy and damage boost, and we know the damage boost doesn't apply. I suppose it just depends on the whim of a random Jagex developer, but it doesn't seem consistent for it to work. I don't think the void bonus helps, does it?FSH is a level boost like the salve amulet - the highest of the two is taken, the other doesn't function. Void is an accuracy and damage boost - it stacks with a salve.wat. The question was whether the void ranged bonus affects cannon accuracy. I was under the impression that the cannon's accuracy was based on your HIGHEST attack stat. So in the case of wielding a rapier, it's accuracy would be based on your Stab stat.If that is the case, any void set should in theory increase the accuracy, assuming you are using the correct void helm, with the correct style of combat. Unless the cannon accuracy thing has been disproven somehow, then I have no idea.If it's based on the stab accuracy on a rapier for example, I don't think void would work then. Unless the accuracy boost from void is directly applied onto the stab accuracy, I don't think it would make a difference to the cannon. Also, the cannon may or may not calculate invisible boosts to the stab accuracy that aren't shown on the equipment screen. Does anyone know these two? Edit: One last thing, is the 10% boost to attack/str from void on the attack level or the attack stat? [hide]unbinding green's kidneys for ltk's heartdo you farm guam like me sir ltk[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Explain explain, here goes... 5 + (attack level * prayer bonus * salve bonus OR fsh bonus + accurate bonus OR controlled bonus OR no bonus + 8) * (equipment accuracy bonus + 64) / 64 * 1.1 IF using void melee Level is potted level (e.g. up to 125). Prayer bonus is 1.05, 1.1, 1.15, 1.23, or a variable curse bonus (1.329 max). Salve bonus is 1.2, fsh 1.15. Accurate bonus is +3, controlled +1. The cannon uses your primary weapon's accuracy bonus. When my handcannon blew up I got sucky accuracy (I was in void, so that went from ~110 to ~20 ranged attack). If you go from slash to crush on a g2h, you will start hitting. I do not know whether void affects cannon accuracy. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 it appears that you would get more kills per hour using a ranged weapon to pull aggro on the demons, let them walk to the cannon and die. so i'm thinking of using a welfare ranged setup like helm - focus sightcape - accumulatoramulet - glorybolts - broadweapon - rune crossbowshield - unholybody - black dhidelegs - black dhidegloves - barrowsboots - snakeskinring - life How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Sounds good, sure. Maybe bring some d bolts to annoy any pkers you might find :P? Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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