brad1431 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 How should I go about leveling my hunter from 71-74. I would like to do this so I can try the Herblore habitat mini game to get farming and mining juju potions. I have heard you can theoretically do herblore habitat at level 71, but I want to play that mini game the absolute minimum possible just to get the potions. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Um, you can go catch black salamanders However, I think the yields with common jadinkos may be better if you bring an artic bear for the invisible hunter level bonusPlus - you need to get the seeds to plant stuff anyways (so you can create habitats for higher leveled jadinkos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1431 Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 and how do I do those things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1431 Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 I was thinking of doing swamp lizards cause I can use those to make pouches with my crim charms..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 and how do I do those things? Lol, did you have somebody play for you on your account or something? To catch salamanders - you need a small net and a rope (one for each trap you want to set)Head here:http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=wilderness_region_map.htmThere's an option on the tree's near here (I don't remember exactly but it goes something like "set trap" or something like that)Remember that it is the wildy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphanos Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 You should be aware that juju mining potions will require a minimum of level 80 hunter, or level 77 using hunter potions to boost (which is a real pain). It may benefit you to train at HH in advance of these levels since you'll also need the special seed drops to grow the untradable herbs used in the potions. On the upside, herblore habitat hunter training is amazingly good. By the time you get to mid-70s you should definitely be getting 100-120k+ experience per hour while training effectively there. When I last trained there to go from 84->85 hunter, I was getting around 200k per hour. Herblore Habitat is quite complex to get started on, but the guide here on TIF helps out a ton: TIF's Herblore Habitat Guide. Alphanos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracleman58 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Even thou its boring you should be catching Red Sallies until lvl 77. From then on catch amphib Jadinkos for 80 - After that draconics. 1593th to 99 Farming - July 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeStr1ke Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 You should be aware that juju mining potions will require a minimum of level 80 hunter, or level 77 using hunter potions to boost (which is a real pain). Actually you can do it at 75 with the Oog'log mud bath which gives 7-9 boost depending on your level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 You should be aware that juju mining potions will require a minimum of level 80 hunter, or level 77 using hunter potions to boost (which is a real pain). Actually you can do it at 75 with the Oog'log mud bath which gives 7-9 boost depending on your level. Yeah but the time it takes after that to run to Herblore Habitat makes your skill boost almost negligible (might as well have used the hunting potion)If you used the spirit bag - you would lose that skill boost in a few minutes and tbh it just won't be worth it. I would definitely just level up hunter for a while - then start on commons.You're going to need the herb/vines/what not to attract the god damned jadinkos anyways. There's no telling when you will be getting the necessary seeds so you might as well get a head start up on the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1431 Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 and how do I do those things? Lol, did you have somebody play for you on your account or something? To catch salamanders - you need a small net and a rope (one for each trap you want to set)Head here:http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=wilderness_region_map.htmThere's an option on the tree's near here (I don't remember exactly but it goes something like "set trap" or something like that)Remember that it is the wildy!obviously I meant the park about whatever the heck a jadinko is, as you can clearly see in my OP, that I have never done Herblore habitat so anything related to that I have zero knowledge about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1431 Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 I'd rather get the required level then do the skill, I cant stand things like temporary skill boosters for skililng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 How should I go about leveling my hunter from 71-74. I would like to do this so I can try the Herblore habitat mini game to get farming and mining juju potions. I have heard you can theoretically do herblore habitat at level 71, but I want to play that mini game the absolute minimum possible just to get the potions. Thanks Why would you want to play the minimum. Its the fastest hunter exp in game as well as having game breaking rewards. Don't do black salamanders, they are one of the worst options available. Worse exp than at least 6 other options, no profit, and they're in the wildy. Any leveling in hunter you plan on doing from 70 onwards should be done in herblore habitat and anyone who says otherwise either is silly. Use the highest hunter boosting familiar you can. Any leveling outside is a waste of exp that could have been used in getting seeds for the potions you want to have. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Actually tieszen commons are really slow xp at level 70. I'd say get 71 or 72 then hunter pot + bear to get a decent catch rate. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Actually tieszen commons are really slow xp at level 70. I'd say get 71 or 72 then hunter pot + bear to get a decent catch rate. They arent slow enough to justify going to another spot. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Actually tieszen commons are really slow xp at level 70. I'd say get 71 or 72 then hunter pot + bear to get a decent catch rate. They arent slow enough to justify going to another spot.You will not need the additional seeds provided in ~200k hunter xp ever, unless you intend to get like 20m mining but only 85 hunter. I got rates of 100/hr at level 71, that's twice as slow as salamanders. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Seeing as OP is already 71 (what you recommend for arctic bear+hunter pot to catch them at a decent rate) our argument is silly. But for the sake of arguing... 1 ugene seed will yield avg of 8.8 ugene herbs (higher because 8.8 includes deaths but there are no deaths if you pay with blue blossoms which you should be doing). 9.6 with a scroll of life and totalling 10.75 potions with a scroll of cleansing. That's 32 doses of farming juju. (A conservative figure). With a max of 22 herbs per patch this could jump to 72 doses of juju. With snapdragons 32 herb runs will net you ~1056 snapdragons (6.6 herbs/patch avg). With juju's for each of those runs that number jumps to ~1408 snaps. That's around 3.5 mil worth of additional herbs. If you get one ugune seed from 70 to 71 i would consider it more than worth it. Note if you get the max of 72 doses this jumps to 2376 herbs vs 3168 herbs or almost 8 mil worth of herbs more. The choice is obviously the OP's. The above is simply why I consider the exp/hr nerf worth it compared to faster rates elsewhere. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 70-72 hunter (let's assume that makes the difference) takes almost 150k xp, two hours and a bit at salamanders and about 4 at jadinkos. You get three additional farm runs with juju at most if you do jadinkos from the start. That's not 3.5m but more like 300k. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 70-72 hunter (let's assume that makes the difference) takes almost 150k xp, two hours and a bit at salamanders and about 4 at jadinkos. You get three additional farm runs with juju at most if you do jadinkos from the start. That's not 3.5m but more like 300k. 300 k extra from those 3 runs. But its silly to not take into account all the runs you'll be able to do total when realistically you arent going to stop doing herb runs ever because the cash is so nice. 70-72 hunter if he gets only one ugene seed will net him almost 3.5 mil extra across all the farming runs he does from the juju's he gets from that one seed. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here... Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I have no clue what you guys are arguing about. But I just have something to add. You can pull quite nice exp from red sallys, use an arctic bear, 3 traps (the 3 trees to the east are very close together) and only do the 4th if you are idle. I got up to 105k exp/hr at 76ish hunter, and I would not be surprised if you can get 80k. Also I don't get the whole numbers with 1 ugune seed... :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 70-72 hunter (let's assume that makes the difference) takes almost 150k xp, two hours and a bit at salamanders and about 4 at jadinkos. You get three additional farm runs with juju at most if you do jadinkos from the start. That's not 3.5m but more like 300k. 300 k extra from those 3 runs. But its silly to not take into account all the runs you'll be able to do total when realistically you arent going to stop doing herb runs ever because the cash is so nice. 70-72 hunter if he gets only one ugene seed will net him almost 3.5 mil extra across all the farming runs he does from the juju's he gets from that one seed. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here...It's silly to take into account all the runs from that 1 seed. You pretend that you won't have another seed while the potions from the first seed are in your bank :rolleyes:. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 70-72 hunter (let's assume that makes the difference) takes almost 150k xp, two hours and a bit at salamanders and about 4 at jadinkos. You get three additional farm runs with juju at most if you do jadinkos from the start. That's not 3.5m but more like 300k. 300 k extra from those 3 runs. But its silly to not take into account all the runs you'll be able to do total when realistically you arent going to stop doing herb runs ever because the cash is so nice. 70-72 hunter if he gets only one ugene seed will net him almost 3.5 mil extra across all the farming runs he does from the juju's he gets from that one seed. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here...It's silly to take into account all the runs from that 1 seed. You pretend that you won't have another seed while the potions from the first seed are in your bank :rolleyes:. No I don't, what I'm saying is that after you're done leveling hunter (99) if you started at 70 you will have 32 more doses of farming juju than if you started at 71 or 72, which will get you another 3.5 mil worth of herbs. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 70-72 hunter (let's assume that makes the difference) takes almost 150k xp, two hours and a bit at salamanders and about 4 at jadinkos. You get three additional farm runs with juju at most if you do jadinkos from the start. That's not 3.5m but more like 300k. 300 k extra from those 3 runs. But its silly to not take into account all the runs you'll be able to do total when realistically you arent going to stop doing herb runs ever because the cash is so nice. 70-72 hunter if he gets only one ugene seed will net him almost 3.5 mil extra across all the farming runs he does from the juju's he gets from that one seed. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here...It's silly to take into account all the runs from that 1 seed. You pretend that you won't have another seed while the potions from the first seed are in your bank :rolleyes:. No I don't, what I'm saying is that after you're done leveling hunter (99) if you started at 70 you will have 32 more doses of farming juju than if you started at 71 or 72, which will get you another 3.5 mil worth of herbs.If you do 70-99 hunter you get 12m xp. My small seeds log suggest 1/100 for ugune off commons. So at 350 xp per catch, and half your xp being from draconic, that's maybe 16k catches or 160 seeds, plus the seeds from draconics, which I'll take at 1/100 again, giving you another 120ish seeds. Which again, according to your calculations, is 8960 farm runs. Which is over 70 million farming xp with torstol or around 40 million farming xp with snapdragon. It also takes around 5 years to finish up all those farm runs at 5 runs per day. Also if All is Great is correct (I assume he is) you save 2.5 hours on a total of 4 doing red salamanders, costing you 4-5 seeds. If you spent 2.5 hours hunting common + draconic after 99 hunter, you will get, say, over 5 ugune seeds? There is a point where jadinko > salamander, and it may come earlier than level 80 due to the additional income from juju farming potions, but if you are talking about the fastest way to get the completionist cape, it does not include commons from the start. The main reason to do commons early on is to get a few farm pots quickly, since most people don't hunt 24/7 while farming 24/7 the benefit of farming is greater (overnight growth etc.). If you did commons at all, it should only ever be to the first ugune and lergberry seed. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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