999134 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Rules would be gloves off cape off, all other armour slots on. Assume Torva boost of +400hp from plate/helm/legs, and roughly 480ish defence bonuses to all styles in total. Fury d boots, recoils as other slots.Also assume a switch to full statius for an extra +15ish accuracy bonus after 400hp is lost No prayer, no pots, melee only. Mainly for a special off duel as special on is just who hits higher with vesta's longsword. My question is, assuming best gear possible with all chaotics unlocked, what weapon style and attack style will bring the most damage (while taking as little damage as possible also) My ideas (elysian is not considered due to 1 prayer on my account in question. but replace cks for elysian normally.) - Chaotic rapier with cks, rapier with ddef, switching between cks for being hit and ddef for hitting(difficult easy to mess up)cls with cks, cls with ddef,s witching between cks for being hit and ddef for hitting (easier than with rapier)Chaotic maulChaotic maul attempting to switch to cks inbetween each hits, risky as messing up can cause you to either punch, losing a turn, or allow them to get too many hits in while having shield off.I've seen a statuis warhammer been used with ddef before by even those with access to chaotics, but it seems an odd choice. finally style, attack/def switching ( again risky as you can easily miss switched leaving you attacking on defensive and defending on accurate, harder than boxing when using a rapier), or just using attack defence or strength ( more viable than more boxing but I still think not the best option). Also don't post no one stakes armour on, because they do, or why would I be posting this :wall: . Check it out, huge amount of effort has gone into this massive mod![hide=old sig][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 you could plug this into my melee dps spreadsheet. It's on www.[Caution: Jagex Rule Violation] for a quick answer but i can do it for you, can you just do me the favor of actually calculating the atk and strength bonuses?You also did not list your combat stats, am i to assume lvl 99 all melees for both players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuuskukk14 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 probably a noobie question, since you obviously know what you're doing, but can you really manage switching your attack style AND shield every single hit without messing up? anyway my guess is to use the maul to counter the high defence bonus your opponent has(also easier to switch without mistakes). That's just a guess, I'm no expert and can't compete with Grimys research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 probably a noobie question, since you obviously know what you're doing, but can you really manage switching your attack style AND shield every single hit without messing up? anyway my guess is to use the maul to counter the high defence bonus your opponent has(also easier to switch without mistakes). That's just a guess, I'm no expert and can't compete with Grimys research.yeah, gut instincts says maul's probably better at 480 equipment defense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Yes, you can. I would tell you how much Tip.It would ban me. This community doesn't support the method. PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacTise69 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Yes, you can. I would tell you how much Tip.It would ban me. This community doesn't support the method. A shame considering the same method makes things like powermining etc much more bearable and not so hard on the wrists. Trolling by giving good advice since April 2011. The Blog - Currently Cleaning Herbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999134 Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 Well my stats are currently 95/96/96, if not too much to ask could you please work out for both those stats and all 99s - Assume all 99s for them both times. [hide=Equipment bonuses]Not done in the best order I just copy-pastede from tipit >.>, it goes Stab attack bonus, Stab defence bonus, Slash att bonus Stab defence bonus, ETC. Also these have no cape/gloves rememberAll of these are for torva, for Statius after switch add 11 stab 11 slash and 16 crush bonus, almost no change to defence bonuses when switching. Rapier + cks Stab 106Stab 450Slash 88Slash 437Crush 12Crush 400Magic -67Magic -7Range -13Range 463OtherPrayer 8Summoning 144Strength 122 Rapier + ddef 129Stab 392Slash 112Slash 371Crush 31Crush 337Magic -55Magic -5Range -15Range 372 Cls + cks 119Stab 450Slash 134Slash 438Crush 12Crush 401Magic -67Magic -7Range -13Range 463 Cls + ddef 142Stab 392Slash 158Slash 372Crush 31Crush 338Magic -55Magic -5Range -15Range 372 MaulStab 6Stab 367Slash 6Slash 345Crush 177Crush 313Magic -52Magic -2Range -13Range 374 For maul + cks use rapiers or cls defence bonuses with cks on. [/hide] Check it out, huge amount of effort has gone into this massive mod![hide=old sig][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 It's easy enough to perform those switches manually too. The maul attacks slow enough to make it easy but it's simple enough a task to do it with a rapier + defender/shield too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Well my stats are currently 95/96/96, if not too much to ask could you please work out for both those stats and all 99s - Assume all 99s for them both times.Which skill is 95 and which are 96?You didn't tell me what stats to assume for the target, assume equal stats? or 99 stats? Please just actually list out the weapon stats, and all of them.you left out the strength bonus for like everything but rapier + CKSalso i'm not calculating all the numbers for you :P but for rapier + CKS, assume 99 stats for everyone, 480 stab defense, both users on aggressive styleAverage damage per attack is: 25.39 LP25.38 if you switch to accurate. Normally accurate is better dps at low accuracies of 15-16% accuracy, by tiny margins,but in this exact scenario, the rounding error on the max hit of the accurate stance, was unfavorable.So accurate actually worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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