Just WHAT is a solid money gaining activity?

[All_Is_Great]

In w65 north of the wall at Oziach's house.

 

Do helm risk fights and practice and get good at it, or get lucky.

 

Let's face it, everything that makes any sort of decent cash is based on luck, so why not try pking?

 

Because the average expected profit is always less than 0 when pking.

 

But you can expect rare drops? Is that how it works?

 

There's always dragons etc for guaranteed profit.

[Sir_Squab]

In w65 north of the wall at Oziach's house.

 

Do helm risk fights and practice and get good at it, or get lucky.

 

Let's face it, everything that makes any sort of decent cash is based on luck, so why not try pking?

 

Because the average expected profit is always less than 0 when pking.

 

But you can expect rare drops? Is that how it works?

 

There's always dragons etc for guaranteed profit.

 

If the chance of a barrows item is 1/18, and you do 18 chests, you have a 65% chance of getting an item. Do 36 chests and you have a 87% chance of getting an item. And you are fighting computers, who do not learn if you find an effective way to kill them and always fight using the same methods.

 

PK'ing is different because there's the human factor, you don't know what the other person will do or how he will fight or what he will use. It has a lot of unpredictable variables, unlike PVM where the drop rate is always the same and how the monster acts is always the same. And PK'ing is sum 0, which means whatever profit you earn PK'ing is money someone else lost, so to make money you need to be better then the average person.

 

I do understand how some people can make money off of this, but in general if a person wants to make money you shouldn't suggest PK'ing. That's like suggesting someone make IRL money via poker. Sure, some people are good at the game and can make tons of money reliably, but the average person is lucky to break even in the long run.

[All_Is_Great]

Meh, all I'm saying is bosses aren't guaranteed money either, a dry streak could kill your bank. (Same with pking)

[Noxx]

Meh, all I'm saying is bosses aren't guaranteed money either, a dry streak could kill your bank. (Same with pking)

Bosses rely on the law/rule of averages.

Pking/Staking relies on the other dude not scamming you/teleporting.

 

Bosses WILL profit sooner or later even after a long drystreak.

Pking can consist of a never ending drystreak.

 

Your argument =/= Valid.

[All_Is_Great]

Meh, all I'm saying is bosses aren't guaranteed money either, a dry streak could kill your bank. (Same with pking)

Bosses rely on the law/rule of averages.

Pking/Staking relies on the other dude not scamming you/teleporting.

 

Bosses WILL profit sooner or later even after a long drystreak.

Pking can consist of a never ending drystreak.

 

Your argument =/= Valid.

 

There is no guarantee.

 

Also why I suggested he practice first then go Pking. If he doesn't like dharok pking, he can do whip risk pking (using claws/ags as spec weapon). Wear some cheap barrows armour (guth top + dragon legs) and target guys in rune. This way you will have the upper hand but still make 800k per kill.

[UltraMantis]

Dicing

[skaterrjamez]

Dicing

 

hosting? or finding others peoples clan.. cause hard to find legit people to make big money?

[Troacctid]

Dicing

...Which is another less than zero expected profit on average.

 

This has got to be like the worst moneymaking advice thread ever. :mrgreen:

[LitterBug]

^ Not unless you're hosting.

 

But it's hard to start hosting without a lot of money (to buy a rank & to pay out gambles)

It's kind of dumb because most good money making methods require lots of money to even get to that point.

[pulli23]

Well I'm really seeing a big gab, even here:

 

Once you earned you basic equipment, and basic levels (piety + bunyip). There's nothing to "aim" for anymore (when considering money-generating activities) until you have gained multiple 100s of millions. Feels like "mid level content" is really stretching thin nowadays.

 

 

But please keep the methods coming, I'm personally really interested if I can be proven wrong. Currently I'd say these are valid nowadays:

 

 

High level skilling (500-750k)

dragon hunting (600K - 1m hourly)

Barrows (1m-2m hourly)

tds (1.5-2m hourly)

High bosses (3m+ hourly)

 

 

I'lll look into the dungeoneering a bit, though I wonder, what would people pay for a dungeon?

[Stommel]

I'lll look into the dungeoneering a bit, though I wonder, what would people pay for a dungeon?

 

In w148 you're looking at 1.5m-2.5m a floor per leech, so once you can key sub 40 floors with a leech that becomes good money. Once you get to a high standard at keying leech floors you can join a cc and make 4m+ per leech per floor

[Crossed_Body]

You can only start making money AFTER you have all the expensive things out of the way? - IE: you don't need more money apart from novelty features?

Yes, that is how it works currently.