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Tip.It Times: 15-Jan-2012


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Time for a new release of the: >>>Tip.It Times!<<<

EDITORIAL PANEL DISCUSSION THREAD:
This thread is for discussing and debating the week's articles. If you would like to comment on the overall structure or direction of the Editorial Panel, please use the discussion topic in the Website Discussion forum.

I'd like to remind people of the rules pertaining to Times threads:

Read these rules before posting in this thread


When replying please make sure to clarify the article you are replying to! Thanks!

If you spot any typos or mistakes in the article then please PM them to tripsis :)

Enjoy the articles!

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I agree that the firemaker's curse firemaking from 90 to 74 was very disappointing, and like the author, lower my positive feeling about Jagex and the future of rs after the botting nuke. Jagex did do something to improve my feelings about them though. They listened to one of my clan (RS Addicts) leader's thoughts about the new tier 7 citadel vex. Now everyone who gets a tirr 7 citadel can get that special vex instead of only those who got a tier 7 citadel this month.

w00t my first, first post.

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I agree that the firemaker's curse firemaking from 90 to 74 was very disappointing, and like the author, lower my positive feeling about Jagex and the future of rs after the botting nuke. Jagex did do something to improve my feelings about them though. They listened to one of my clan (RS Addicts) leader's thoughts about the new tier 7 citadel vex. Now everyone who gets a tirr 7 citadel can get that special vex instead of only those who got a tier 7 citadel this month.

w00t my first, first post.


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Lokie and Ham, congratulations on producing a pair absolutely sterling articles this week. Both were relevant, clearly aritculated and enjoyable to read. :thumbup:


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I was disappointed with Lokie's "A Shaky Resolution"; I expect better-quality writing from the Times than this.

The subject matter was iffy, at best, since when the article was being written there has only been two updates. I really would have waited longer to consider whether or not Jagex was holding up their resolution for 2012. But I was hoping for something interesting regardless.

After reading the article, I was not left with a clear understanding of what point the author was trying to make, much less whether I agreed with that point or not. That's a major failing in any opinion-based article. After looked over it again, I realized why - the author didn't seem to know what point he was trying to make, either. To illustrate, let me summarize the three body paragraphs, as I understood them:
1. The Barrows update was good, though not everyone liked it.
2. Lowering the level requirement for All Fired Up was disappointing and Jagex lost the chance to set new precedent with a 90+ quest requirement.
3. We should pay attention to the small updates like Hati and graphical updates and not forget them as the year goes on.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the title of the article, but I believe the article was supposed to be criticizing Jagex for not entirely holding to their resolution, or not doing a good job of holding to it. However that is not the impression I get when reading the body articles or my summaries of them. I think that the editors may have been able to do a better job helping the author to clarify what he was trying to say, or recommending a change in subject if the author realized he couldn't make a full article on this subject - goodness knows that many times I've been halfway through writing a paper only to realize that I need to change topics for that very reason.

While I appreciate the effort, and I think this subject could certainly be revisited in a few weeks, I think it was too soon to make any real conclusions at this point, and the organizational difficulties in the article did nothing to help. I would like to see better writing from the Times in the future.

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...I think it was too soon to make any real conclusions at this point...

"There are still eleven more months left of 2012, so there are still many chances for Jagex to show to us they still have the ability to define “brand new” or imply they can live up to their resolutions more strongly than most human beings."

I believe that the author was trying to make the point that it was too soon to make conclusions.

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Sorry if my article was not clear enough for the readers. I will take account of this the next time I am writing an article and be more articulate when I make my point and increase my quality. Thanks for the feedback in letting me know the faults I caused in my article too, Sorator.

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Sorry if my article was not clear enough for the readers. I will take account of this the next time I am writing an article and be more articulate when I make my point and increase my quality. Thanks for the feedback in letting me know the faults I caused in my article too, Sorator.

Certainly! I give feedback in the hopes that you'll do better next time; my apologies if I'm excessively harsh.

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I liked reading the 'EP' article. I'm all about "behind the scenes" stuff. Whether it's on RuneScape.com, or Tip.It.
Getting some knowledge on how the machinery works is great, and makes you appreciate the articles more. Great topic.

I don't wanna go into grammar, or composition of the article - i do however agree to some of the points made in the article "A Shaky Resolution".
Being a veteran (since classic), and a somewhat high lever player, it was really disappointing for me that the FM req. was lowered from 90, like promised.

Yeah sure, i enjoy many of the "smaller" updates. But the bigger updates is what really excites me (i think most players can agree).
It really gets to me, when an update just isn't what it could have been. Even though i'm not 90 FM, i would have loved the idea of a quest requiring that.
As long as the quest reward matches the requirements, it would have been great. I don't think we need more high level updates, but i do think that
the quality, and innovation of them could be better. A 90+ quest requirement would have been something brand new. Not "just" another dungeon to explore.

Quality, innovation and diversity of updates is a big issue, which can be discussed over and over again.
I like reading you're articles though, keep up the work :thumbup:
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2. Lowering the level requirement for The Firemaker's Curse was disappointing and Jagex lost the chance to set new precedent with a 90+ quest requirement.

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i get the feeling that i'm in quite a minority here, but i really welcomed the lowering of the firemaking requirements. instead of yet another quest i'm unlikely to ever play, A Firemaker's Curse is only a few FM levels out of my reach.

i'm not a grinder by habit, so it'll still take me a few weeks [or more] to get there, but at the rate i level up, i won't be getting any level 90s for a few more years... i mean, i've been playing since 2005 and my firemaking level is still in the low seventies.

and i, too, miss the 'did you know?' segment! those were fun!
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not alot of post this tip.it times. I hope there are more next times.

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