The Back Room

[The_Mather1]

No, it is not.

 

EDIT: This time the ban is permanent.

 

Anyone else is still free to join, but do not add ladders to "ease access" and don't claim a room bellow public roads. Oh and most importantly, if I or Ouyso tell you to stop, you listen not insult us.

[Resistance]

Don't build a wall, don't build stairs, don't build ladders, building a room for yourself is forbidden even if it is completely invisible, if there is no OP then you will be stranded miles away from the actual city, don't build out of cobblestone, out of gravel out of anything else but sandstone. Accessing most area's is long-winded but ladders are forbidden, "Its my server, my rules".

The server is less of a game of minecraft and more of a game of sit and don't DARE do anything.

[The_Mather1]

If you were to actually build something in the style of the city it would be ok, digging straight through the road is not, the players adapt to the server, not the other way around.

 

Also if you would actually care to look we do not build out of sandstone alone; the armoury is built of cobblestone with brick edges and the roofs are built out of bricks. Other than that we actually build to the shape of the nature, we don't dig out dirt steps.

[Resistance]

Lets make this clear, I didn't dig straight through the road, I dug straight through a piece of flat terrain which you had described as 'foundation' and then filled up any holes that I had made. There was no visible signs that the road had been destroyed in anyway.

Well, assuming that I can only use sandstone and that to build anything substantial I would need at least sixty-four blocks I would find that very difficult seeing as you removed my commands for choosing to build a wall.

Brick is hard to obtain, moreso because I cannot access commands, cobblestone requires long mining.

 

If you wanted to build a project then you could've made that clear, domineering over a person and telling him that a large majority of the blocks in Minecraft are dissallowed isn't going to produce productive results. I hand built half a house out of stone, you just chose to delete it all because you didn't like it.

[The_Mather1]

No, that was road, the reason it was big and flat was because it was a freaking market area in what will be the middle of the city.

Also, calling the owner of the server a [bleep] after accusing him of griefing =/= good idea.

[Resistance]

calling the owner of the server a [bleep] after accusing him of griefing

You can't treat people the way you do without being accused of being a [bleep].

 

According to:

"Griefing is the act of destroying large or otherwise very noticeable portions of other people's creations on a multiplayer Creative or Survival server."

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Gotta agree with Res. If you are gonna create a sever you need to actually lay down specific rules and make sure people understand them...not freak out when people break rules they didn't even know existed.

[The_Mather1]

The server is neither creative or survival, it's a citybuild server, where people cooperate to build a city.

 

Archi, I told him several times to stop, he built in straight contrast to everything, including the thing he was building on and he flamed. Also I actually had reason to ban him on the first day, I was actually being nice; stalking someone else's ex-crush is not acceptable behaviour. He actually asked Ouyso, in my presence, for details so he could find her on Facebook.

Honestly, Res has made Hex seem like a better person, and that's coming from the guy he continued stalking for half a year after he quit TIF.

 

EDIT: If you want evidence then I can supply the server logs he was so thoughtful as to remind me of.

 

EDIT2: I have set some rules, but until Res here reached those incredibly high levels of stupidity, I thought they would be unnecessary for a server where no one has any projects of their own. And those rules again were set according to his examplaric behaviour.

[Resistance]

Its completely irrelevent.

 

You banned me because I built things that you didn't like. a citybuild server should be creative but as it seems you are completely incapable of letting others do anything but the rigid things that you want them to do. What is the point of having a citybuild server? If you're not going to allow me to make anything; I had built on what looked like flat unused ground to me but you logged on and told me that it was your land and thus you chose to delete my work, I was then educated by you about how to use the //wand tool, you then scalded me for building a wall with it and removed my OP. I tried to avoid confrontation, I said that I wouldn't build on your land and build something in the water: I suggested a lighthouse.

Instead of taking that as a request to build something of my own you built a lighthouse of your own to prove that I wasn't needed. I don't even understand why you're hosting a server if nothing can be done by anybody else. Instead of forcing your will upon me maybe you should've given me a suggestion of what I should do to help expand this city but instead you were to busy showing your dominance, telling me that a lighthouse could easily be done with the //brush tool and that I wasn't needed.

 

I chose to build the small 6x4x2 room underground out of view or accessability to anybody, you weren't aware of it until you teleported to me. It wasn't harming anybody and it was the only way that I could ensure that I would be able to get back to the city if I died. Today Ouyso was killed and he had to look for a good five to ten minutes (with his flight tool) to actually get back to the city, you had built the city so far away from the spawn point that I needed an area to go if I respawned. I chose an inconspicuous place that you would not have even noticed if you didn't tele-follow me. You decided to destroy my bed and torches despite the fact that they were completely invisible to anybody observing.

 

 

If you felt that my Banter was going a bit to far then you should've said that you felt uncomfortable with it; I have been known to be off-colour at times. If you didn't choose to mention it at the time then you shouldn't bring it up later as an excuse for your failiure as an Admin.

[Nexaduro]

Mather, Res is right. I could be wrong, I suppose, I wasn't there, but whatever he may have said I've heard ten times worse on other Minecraft servers. Plus I can't advocate your server in the first place, being as it breaks copyright AND forum posting rules. :-k

[The_Mather1]

A citybuild is the opposite of a freebuild server, a freebuild is where you build what you want, a citybuild is where you build for a larger picture, I and Ouyso actually do that, we communicate and come with suggestions on which we do or don't agree and act depending on the other's reaction.

 

The city is actually close to the spawn but the terrain makes it hard to navigate. Also note that Ouyso was the one to chose and deforest the area.

 

I am also not a bad admin, this is not my first server, you however are a bad example of a player.

I know a bad admin however, he hosted my previous server temporarily; TNT everywhere... on survival.

 

 

Nex, it does not break the forum rules as I do not link to a download nor do I link to a download site.

[Resistance]

I'm just going to cut the argument short here.

[Retech]

Hey Wyvren, I was looking through Paizo blogs and I found this FAQ: http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lc1y#discuss

 

So basically intelligent Bobo is legal, just cheesy (and therefore should not be used). Not to bring up that old topic again, but I thought that you would be interested, as ultimate DnD rules guru.

 

Edit: And ultimate combat is coming out soon! Hopefully it will have some fun goodies for martial classes, though there is always the fundamental rule of DnD 3.X, "Fighters don't get nice things." And I found an interesting archetype that I might be interested in playing, but not sure where to find it on the SRD.

 

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[Corvus]

Hey Wyvren, I was looking through Paizo blogs and I found this FAQ: http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lc1y#discuss

 

So basically intelligent Bobo is legal, just cheesy (and therefore should not be used). Not to bring up that old topic again, but I thought that you would be interested, as ultimate DnD rules guru.

 

Edit: And ultimate combat is coming out soon! Hopefully it will have some fun goodies for martial classes, though there is always the fundamental rule of DnD 3.X, "Fighters don't get nice things." And I found an interesting archetype that I might be interested in playing, but not sure where to find it on the SRD.

 

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Yeah, I am sure everyone is Tired of the endless debates between us on Pathfinder rules (I know I am), So if you really need me to read that FAQ post and the clarifications by the Author to you, PM me about it.

 

You obviously aren't finding the Winter Witch Archetype on the System/Standard Reference Document, because:

1) Winter Witch is a Pathfinder Campaign Setting item and Therefore does not get featured in the SRD.

2) The book featuring the Winter Witch Archtype does not come out until next month.

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Oh, and one thing I noticed. Animals have a Max Int of 2 during creation. So Bobo would have to gain levels after the campaign started, to be legal.

 

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This comment suprised me:

 

Note that while the monster guidelines talk about a maximum Int for an animal, this only applies to the creation process. Animals can grow to have an Int higher than 2 through a variety of means, but they should not, as a general rule, be created that way.

Compare that to the Animal Type:

Intelligence score of 1 or 2 (no creature with an Intelligence score of 3 or higher can be an animal)

These two statements would seem to contradict one another.

 

With the very specific example of animal companions and other similar animals gained as a class feature, the rules would seem to be pretty clear in saying NO animal can have an Intelligence score of 3 or higher.

 

They do and this is an intentional change we are making. The rules leave no room for an animal to gain intelligence without somehow transforming into a magical beast, which comes with a whole host of changes. There has to be room here for corner cases and exceptions, which this absolute rule does not allow.

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Interesting aside:

People argue about how their moneky should be treated as a sapient creature, but in the very next paragraph say that the monkey shouldn't make any choice other than their, as the player, own.

The middle ground would be you either got:

A greatsword wielding ape as an NPC-GM-Controlled character (under-awakened rules)

Or you got a normal ape as a PC (Under handle animal rules).

 

Or...You taught the monkey the 'Hold Greatsword' trick, the 'Draw Greatsword' trick and the 'Wield Greatsword' trick. As your 3 extra tricks at level 3 intelligence.

 

Or, if you have a weak GM you just make the case that at level 3 the chimp gets unlimited tricks, and you taught them all the neccessary ones.

[Nexaduro]

You gave a link to the hamachi thing, saying you were using it to host a Minecraft server for people who did NOT have Minecraft. I'm going to go on my discretion, and say that merits a warning. Also it led to conflict on the forum itself, I strongly suggest you keep such grievances OUT of my jurisdiction if you don't want a forum moderator attending to the issue.

[Retech]

Yeah, I am sure everyone is Tired of the endless debates between us on Pathfinder rules (I know I am), So if you really need me to read that FAQ post and the clarifications by the Author to you, PM me about it.

 

Kay, will do.

[The_Mather1]

No I did not, at first I gave away the details needed to connect to the server saying that those in need of the game could contact me some other way, later I posted a link to a .txt file with a step-by-step guide on how to connect, a URL to a compressed folder containing the game and a more recent addon, the very simple rules.

 

Am I not correct in assuming that linking to files of your own creation is fully legal as long as it is described what the contents of the files are and they do not have pornographic content and do not contain illegal or copyrighted material?

What those files again link to however is out of Tip.It's jurisdiction.

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Watching Industrial Revelations...had an idea for Hegemony.

 

When you start a project, train troops, ect ect...There is a 66% (2 in 3) chance that the cost will double.

If it does double, then there is a 66% chance (2 in 3) that the cost will increase by half again. (Or trebles relative to the starting price)

If it does increase again, there is another 66% chance it will increase by a third.

 

You HAVE to spend the money up until you succeed, or until you give up, and lose all the money invested so far.

 

 

So there is some ebb and flow...Having large amounts of money doesn't mean you can do anything you like and never run out of money.

[The_Mather1]

That reminded me of something that would make the game even more realistic, at least for capitalistic nations: Upon deciding what is to be built, you them receive proposals by companies, each proposal would have three values; cost, chance of increased cost and timeframe. That way the game gets a more capitalistic touch which I think would make the game more fitting of the name, since it could also allow companies to receive hegemony on the market...

 

Suddenly I want an economic Hegemony, one wherein war is as costly as it should be and nations can control the global market by hiring and funding companies rather than just spending their resources directly on theirselves like communists.

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It would be terribly complicated, relative to how much time people can actually invest in running/playing Hegemony...

[The_Mather1]

It would be complicated for the GM, but could actually be less time consuming for the players as long as they get their numbers. The noticeable difference would be that suddenly warfare would no longer be the only thing that requires strategy.

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Yes...

Going from 'This costs this'

to 'This costs this, or this or this' 'I choose this, does it do that' 'It does that but not that' 'Well I want this' 'That doesn't do that either' 'Does anything do this?' 'Yes, this does that' 'Ok, I do that' 'But it doesn't do that.'

 

 

But hey, if anyone wants to use it...

[The_Mather1]

There shouldn't be difference in effects, only price and time, since when you put out a job you say what you want, then companies say they can do it for that price withing that timeframe. The structure will be no different, but the cost, speed and impact on future builds will.

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Mather: Why do you experts always think youre right?

Archi: Why do you players think that the more inexpert you are, the more likely YOU are to be right?