Maxa Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Sorry if this has been asked/talked about somewhere, but is it more or less efficient to train in controlled stance? Currently 90-99-80, would it be more beneficial to train in controlled or non-controlled from here on out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paul Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Moving this to H&A. :) Training controlled would not be the fastest since training each stat individually gives an invisible boost (+3 depending on which style, +1 if on controlled). Also, since you are already 99 strength, you might as well max out attack and then defense since you will be getting quite a bit extra strength experience. Working on max and completionist capes. 2435/2475 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Use H&A for asking questions. Controlled doesn't work in your case as you have already maxed out in one skill. If you have a rapier, it would be better to first train attack to 99 and then defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxa Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Use H&A for asking questions. Controlled doesn't work in your case as you have already maxed out in one skill. If you have a rapier, it would be better to first train attack to 99 and then defense. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 From the moment you create an account you should focus on quest rewards and alternative training instead of combat. Get a strength level you're comfortable with, jump to the next attack requirement for a better weapon, repeat until 60/60/1. The low amount of XP required at this level makes it not incredibly significant how you micromanage each level, it's best to not worry about the potential for a tiny bit more xp and just get it over with. As a rule of thumb for being efficient, never have +10 strength over your attack at this stage. Defense is not needed in most decent training spots, and does not speed up your XP apart from delaying banking. But if you choose to train somewhere where defense is absolutely needed (Enemy has inaccurate but high hits, can't protection pray against, can't outheal with sum/ss.) you should find the optimal defense level to last for a decent amount of time without needing to bank, and stick there till you're at least 99 strength, probably attack too. I'd personally only get 40 defense once i am 70/~70/1, it will go very fast at this point and you unlock good offensive armour such as defenders to increase your kill speed. At your current level you should train 99 attack first, and then defense. Because as stated above, extra defense levels will not give you much benefit for training (Especially since you already have all offensive bonuses unlocked.), while attack will. You should be training on low defense creatures, so the attack bonus, while helpful, shouldn't make a huge difference anyway. The only big mistake you can do here is train on balanced and throw away 1/3rd of the useful xp. (Sorry! Lol.) This is purely for absolute efficient training. Having such low defense until you're maxed offensively will greatly limit your combat options for the many months/years it takes to max. (Although the pking is fun. :D) Just play the game how you see fit, forget about the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^Agreed with Powerfrog, past 42 defence (void deflector + barrows gloves, fury/salve, fire/kiln cape, rune boots, zerker (i)) the only xp/hr upgrades are dragon and steadfast boots and goliath gloves (sounds balanced yes?). So in general, controlled is worse than separate training if you don't train defence first. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^Agreed with Powerfrog, past 42 defence (void deflector + barrows gloves, fury/salve, fire/kiln cape, rune boots, zerker (i)) the only xp/hr upgrades are dragon and steadfast boots and goliath gloves (sounds balanced yes?). So in general, controlled is worse than separate training if you don't train defence first. Bandos, dragon defender? My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^Agreed with Powerfrog, past 42 defence (void deflector + barrows gloves, fury/salve, fire/kiln cape, rune boots, zerker (i)) the only xp/hr upgrades are dragon and steadfast boots and goliath gloves (sounds balanced yes?). So in general, controlled is worse than separate training if you don't train defence first. Bandos, dragon defender?Void + deflector is much better, especially combining it with salve (e) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfkScape Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^Agreed with Powerfrog, past 42 defence (void deflector + barrows gloves, fury/salve, fire/kiln cape, rune boots, zerker (i)) the only xp/hr upgrades are dragon and steadfast boots and goliath gloves (sounds balanced yes?). So in general, controlled is worse than separate training if you don't train defence first. Bandos, dragon defender?Void + deflector is much better, especially combining it with salve (e)slayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^Agreed with Powerfrog, past 42 defence (void deflector + barrows gloves, fury/salve, fire/kiln cape, rune boots, zerker (i)) the only xp/hr upgrades are dragon and steadfast boots and goliath gloves (sounds balanced yes?). So in general, controlled is worse than separate training if you don't train defence first. Bandos, dragon defender?Void + deflector is much better, especially combining it with salve (e)slayerIf we're talking about efficient melee training, slayer shouldn't come into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Should be 45 def at a minimum, shadow silk hood for dungeoneering. ;) On topic, like the others said, you already have a melee 99, so just train the other 2 individually. Unless you're going for 200m's. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Should be 45 def at a minimum, shadow silk hood for dungeoneering. ;) On topic, like the others said, you already have a melee 99, so just train the other 2 individually. Unless you're going for 200m's.Even if he is going for 200m's, attack, defense and then possibly controlled would still be best. The extra attack and defense levels will speed up his training, albeit only by a small amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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