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Barrows or Bandos? Or is there something else I am missing out on?

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They give the exact same defence and LP boost. It's just a question of if you're willing to fork out a one off big payment of ~15m for Bandos, or pay 250-350k (I forgot how much it costs) to repair Barrows when it degrades.


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They give the exact same defence and LP boost. It's just a question of if you're willing to fork out a one off big payment of ~15m for Bandos, or pay 250-350k (I forgot how much it costs) to repair Barrows when it degrades.


This is sort of right, aside from extremely wrong repair value and seeming ignorance to recent changes.

1) Bandos is getting strength bonus back next week so is an obvious winner over barrows once more.
2) Pre-warning of next week changes has sent Bandos through the rough; street price is like 16m on chest alone.
3) Barrows full set repair was 330k, this got tripled in eoc to 990k; of course one is not likely to be using the full set but it's still a good 600k for full repair assuming no smithing reduction via armour stand.

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They give the exact same defence and LP boost. It's just a question of if you're willing to fork out a one off big payment of ~15m for Bandos, or pay 250-350k (I forgot how much it costs) to repair Barrows when it degrades.


This is sort of right, aside from extremely wrong repair value and seeming ignorance to recent changes.

1) Bandos is getting strength bonus back next week so is an obvious winner over barrows once more.
2) Pre-warning of next week changes has sent Bandos through the rough; street price is like 16m on chest alone.
3) Barrows full set repair was 330k, this got tripled in eoc to 990k; of course one is not likely to be using the full set but it's still a good 600k for full repair assuming no smithing reduction via armour stand.


Right, I forgot about the upcoming changes. And the repair value was based on my experience with Akrisae's top and bottom at 99 smith, with the house repair thing, which never goes over 300k.


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Kinda off topic but how many hours with barrows before its more expensive than Bandos? I would guess its a long time

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Kinda off topic but how many hours with barrows before its more expensive than Bandos? I would guess its a long time


Barrows items degrade to 0 after 15 hours of combat, at which the repair cost for a set is
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So divide your Bandos cost by whatever you're paying for Barrows repair, and there's your answer.

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Kinda off topic but how many hours with barrows before its more expensive than Bandos? I would guess its a long time


Barrows items degrade to 0 after 15 hours of combat, at which the repair cost for a set is
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So divide your Bandos cost by whatever you're paying for Barrows repair, and there's your answer.


I used to think like this but I realized it isn't nessisarily a good way to view it.

What your doing is calculating how many times you need to repair to equal the cost of bandos.

The difference is Bandos has a capital cost while barrows has an operation cost, a simple business concept shows that the point at which you choose on or the other is based on the change in the value of the captlital cost assuming some resale value versus the operating expenditures.

Basically say you pay 15m for a full set of bandos or you can buy a barrows set of equal amount of parts for 1m. Your repair costs for barrows are an assumed value of 400k every 15 hours of combat.

You plan to do slayer for the next month contributing 75 hours of combat.

Now you buy bandos for 15m an you tie up 15m and have 0gp left, in one month that has the ability to go up in value stay the same or go down in value. This comes down to an assumption of market value. At the end of the month you sell the set for 15m you have 15m left over.

Your other option is you spend the initial 1m on barrows an you still have 14m to spend on other things as needed. In the 15 hours your going to repair 5 times assuming no deaths. This has a value of 2m. Every additional death in which you don't keep the armour costs an additional repair. At the end of the month assuming your gear hasn't fallen in value you sell it for 1m you now have 13m at the end of the month.

So if you think bandos will not fall more then 2m in that month bandos is "cheaper" then barrows. You even have the possibility of making money on it.

If you want to go even further you can look at the opportunity value of that money had you bought barrows, ie you use that 14m for investing and earn a return of 2% per day. Doing that you'd have ~25.36m+/-.5m.

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Thanks. Another Question: Is bands helm better than using slayer helm?

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No. There is no reason to use any helmet besides the (full) slayer helmet when on task. There used to be, with Dharok's, but that got nerfed and the effect no longer works for abilities.
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No. There is no reason to use any helmet besides the (full) slayer helmet when on task. There used to be, with Dharok's, but that got nerfed and the effect no longer works for abilities.


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