Vendettas Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I'm looking for the best (dps) magic gear that does not degrade. I currently use a full set of subj with arma bstaff. I'm assuming ragefires would boost me up a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Most armour has nothing to do with DPS really, so if you define 'best' by dps alone you want no armour only the best staff in-game that's not degrading (arma) + Arcane Stream for it's boost. Assuming you actually want defence (which in eoc you do unless you are insane) as well then yes Subjugation + ragefires is the best non-degrading mage options available. Edit: Yeah as below in terms of pure DPS void works. forgot about that! Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 void 1 First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Just remember that using void sacrifices a lot of defence and constitution, so going back to heal all the time will just bring your DPS back down. Still, if you've got something in mind which doesn't involve you taking a lot of hits, void all the way. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tansuo Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Just remember that using void sacrifices a lot of defence and constitution, so going back to heal all the time will just bring your DPS back down. Still, if you've got something in mind which doesn't involve you taking a lot of hits, void all the way. Its a trade off between utilising the low defence, yet high DPS of void in conjunction with Soul Split vs gear like Subjugation.In some cases, Void is best, but in others defence is too important to over look. | | | A Blog to Bathtubs for BeginnersQuest Cape | 99 Defence Achieved 11-Jul-2011 17:41 | 99 Prayer 11-Jul-2012 | 99 Constitution 02-Aug-201299 Attack 31/10/2012 | 99 Dungeoneering 31/10/2012 | 99 Strength 31/10/2012 | 99 Magic 2/12/201299 Range 16/12/2012 | 99 Herblore 25/12/2012 | 99 Summoning 4/1/2013 | 99 Firemaking 6/3/201399 Farming 10/4/2013 | 99 Slayer 11/7/2013 | 99 Fletching 21/8/2013 | 99 Smithing 22/8/2013 99 Crafting 19/12/2013 | 99 Cooking 15/1/2014 | 99 Agility 25/1/2014 | 99 Thieving 01/02/201499 Construction 21/04/2014 | 99 Woodcutting 04/03/2014 | 99 Fishing 17/04/2014 | 99 Mining 23/07/201599 Divination 27/07/2015 | 99 Runecrafting 20/08/2015 | 99 Hunter 20/08/2015 | Maxed 20/08/2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinc3Wind Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I believe subjugation is the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuget Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I use Subjugation with a armadyl battlestaff as off slayer gear, i quite like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Void->virtus->subjugation These 3 are the only(?) armor that gives any DPS.Virtus obv degrades and cost's alot :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoko Kurama Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Assuming you actually want defence (which in eoc you do unless you are insane) This not entirely true. While it's true that you can't Void everything as you once could(largely due to them nerfing Void), Defense has diminishing returns, For instance, if you are hunting fairly high level bosses, you can't run around in Void as effectively as you could, since it has the defensive statistics of Mithril armour or something. However, with level 70 Gear(Barrows/Gwars) you can defend yourself almost as well as level 80/85 armour. Level 80/85 armour obviously has much more defense because of the exponential curve, but you really don't need that much defense for most things (including bosses), it's very much overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Assuming you actually want defence (which in eoc you do unless you are insane) This not entirely true. While it's true that you can't Void everything as you once could(largely due to them nerfing Void), Defense has diminishing returns, For instance, if you are hunting fairly high level bosses, you can't run around in Void as effectively as you could, since it has the defensive statistics of Mithril armour or something. However, with level 70 Gear(Barrows/Gwars) you can defend yourself almost as well as level 80/85 armour. Level 80/85 armour obviously has much more defense because of the exponential curve, but you really don't need that much defense for most things (including bosses), it's very much overkill. Erm Did I say anything about wanting uber max defence?I just said that in EoC you generally do want defence, opposed to the rubbish defence offered by Void. Plus given the qualification of 'non-degrading' diminishing returns is hardly an issue since it traps him at level 70 tier max ruling out Ganodermic, Virtux and Seasinger. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Void is best gear atm everywhere if ur not in task.. Void is best gear even at KK\nex\corp (not 4 tanks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoko Kurama Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Erm Did I say anything about wanting uber max defence? I made a general comment on your claim about the need for defense, not 'uber max defense'. Pre-Eoc, it was very much important to have the best defense you could possibly have for higher level bossing, now, it's not the case. I just said that in EoC you generally do want defence, opposed to the rubbish defence offered by Void. I agreed with that portion of your post. Plus given the qualification of 'non-degrading' diminishing returns is hardly an issue since it traps him at level 70 tier max ruling out Ganodermic, Virtux and Seasinger. I was responding to a specific claim made by you, not to the OP. I'm not sure what you're prattling on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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