remember bluerose13x?

[blue107]

thats not how it happened and you know it:P and its musashi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

havent seen you in a long time, if i remember correctly you were banned from scapeboard:P

[koolaid_guy]

when i first started playing on my first account r2h's were 1 mil and now they and when i could finally buy one they had fell all the way down to 60k but they fell to 50k before the release of rs2 but i dont remember them going down to 45k until rs2

[balistix0]

I've never played rsc (started Oct 04). :)

[Phyrexial]

zezima is a god he makes this game what it is

[Twiceborn]

Actually the reason the prices dropped is YOUR FAULT.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you bought a r2her for 50k instead of 2 million then YOU decided to agree to the price drop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A good friend of mine once told me:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When was the last time you went in to buy a music cd for $8.95 and said to the cashier "Oh my god, this price is too low, can i pay $19.99??"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line is the reason prices are low is because you all demand it to be low. higher demand, more production, and newer better equipment all are reasons why prices dropped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SO its YOUR FAULT. Stop blaming the early smithers. in the end You love prices lower.

[rollerjam5]

Actually the reason the prices dropped is YOUR FAULT.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you bought a r2her for 50k instead of 2 million then YOU decided to agree to the price drop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A good friend of mine once told me:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When was the last time you went in to buy a music cd for $8.95 and said to the cashier "Oh my god, this price is too low, can i pay $19.99??"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line is the reason prices are low is because you all demand it to be low. higher demand, more production, and newer better equipment all are reasons why prices dropped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SO its YOUR FAULT. Stop blaming the early smithers. in the end You love prices lower.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they didn't agree to sell for 50k then it wouldn't be 50k would it? Now shut up so we can get back on topic :D

[imhomer]

 

 

 

Actually the reason the prices dropped is YOUR FAULT.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you bought a r2her for 50k instead of 2 million then YOU decided to agree to the price drop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A good friend of mine once told me:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When was the last time you went in to buy a music cd for $8.95 and said to the cashier "Oh my god, this price is too low, can i pay $19.99??"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line is the reason prices are low is because you all demand it to be low. higher demand, more production, and newer better equipment all are reasons why prices dropped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SO its YOUR FAULT. Stop blaming the early smithers. in the end You love prices lower.[/qoute]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they didn't agree to sell for 50k then it wouldn't be 50k would it? Now shut up so we can get back on topic

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Both of you are right. Twiceborn; if people refuse to buy items at a higher price, the price will adjust to match demand regardless of supply. Rollerjam; any one person could set the price by offering a lot of expensive items at a lower cost

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I side with rollerjam because he has more evidence. If a market is flooded with supply, like with rune 2h's and early smithers, the price will go down because supply is closer to matching demand. The 'keeping up with the Jones'' effect will always make people pay more for items that are new. This could counteract the supply-demand relationship but only temporarily.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

An example of supply vs. demand: When I was in members, Jagex released the Ta Bwo Wanni (spelling?) minigame. I was one of the first people to make it to the update area and managed to buy machete's en masse. Once people arrived and were all competing for the occasional spawn of a machete in the nearby shop, I could sell my wares. I managed to sell nearly two dozen machete's bought at 4 gp each for near 1k each. Why? Because demand far outstripped supply and everyone was excited to get to see the new update.

[SDK]

Unfortunate as it may be, you are all wrong. The smithers and the buyers had nothing to do with it. The smithers wanted to keep the items exclusive. The buyers couldn't do anything about that. The smithers gave the items out to their friends and sold a handful to people at high prices e.g. 1200 steel bars. The items were all very exclusive until...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a duper managed to get their hands on the items and duplicate them many times. This lead to more sales of the items and forced to smithers to get in on the action or lose a lot of xp/gp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That was why bluerose was so upset about the whole situation. Someone who did no work at all flooded the market when it took so long to get to that level.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~SDK

[imhomer]

Unfortunate as it may be, you are all wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lol :lol: . Opinions all of us. I am willing to concede the point as I am neither an expert in economics nor was I around for the actual event. Although I somewhat doubt the outside duplication of items by a hacker. :wink:

[The_Doom_14]

Then dragon weps costed mills am i right?

[gspbeetle]

Then dragon weps costed mills am i right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

weps? you mean amour right? dragon axe is the only 'dragon wep' that cost mills, dragon spear price had dropped...

[DiLord]

 

Then dragon weps costed mills am i right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

weps? you mean amour right? dragon axe is the only 'dragon wep' that cost mills, dragon spear price had dropped...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HE's talking about back in the day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No they didn't cost mills. The only 2 dragon weapons back then were the longsword and battle axe. And you could buy those at shops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I remember when it was very strange that a Rune 2 Hander cost more than a Dragon Long sword.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I belive the 2 handers were between 1 mill and 400k at the time if I recal?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I'm going to say that that was a factor in the reason 2 handers and rune battles decreased in price too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's been so long I really can't remember.

[PuRe_MoNk_89]

ah good tiems good times, i was playin on my first name ever back then lord seifer. almost everyone was walking around in rune longs and rune square, becuase not many ppl could afford 2h's. :P

[Iantiger]

I was way too much of a newb for the first couple of months of playing (Spring 02)to even know or care what was happening at the top of the food chain. By the time I became aware of the best players and all that, TKS was the main name being mentioned, and Vampiriss was the number 1 fisher. Ah good times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Ian

[Flyingtoilet]

 

 

Then dragon weps costed mills am i right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

weps? you mean amour right? dragon axe is the only 'dragon wep' that cost mills, dragon spear price had dropped...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HE's talking about back in the day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No they didn't cost mills. The only 2 dragon weapons back then were the longsword and battle axe. And you could buy those at shops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I remember when it was very strange that a Rune 2 Hander cost more than a Dragon Long sword.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I belive the 2 handers were between 1 mill and 400k at the time if I recal?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I'm going to say that that was a factor in the reason 2 handers and rune battles decreased in price too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's been so long I really can't remember.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeah dude, must be so long ago that it never really happened, since dragon armor/weps werent even in planning when r2h's were introduced to the game by bluerose :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its funny, that half the posts here are people who CLEARLY have no clue what they are writing, and its just hear-say they are writing down posing as fact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

some of us here are laughing at posts like the one quoted, cuz its as far from fact as possible.

[starev91]

 

 

 

Then dragon weps costed mills am i right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

weps? you mean amour right? dragon axe is the only 'dragon wep' that cost mills, dragon spear price had dropped...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HE's talking about back in the day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No they didn't cost mills. The only 2 dragon weapons back then were the longsword and battle axe. And you could buy those at shops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I remember when it was very strange that a Rune 2 Hander cost more than a Dragon Long sword.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I belive the 2 handers were between 1 mill and 400k at the time if I recal?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I'm going to say that that was a factor in the reason 2 handers and rune battles decreased in price too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's been so long I really can't remember.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeah dude, must be so long ago that it never really happened, since dragon armor/weps werent even in planning when r2h's were introduced to the game by bluerose :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its funny, that half the posts here are people who CLEARLY have no clue what they are writing, and its just hear-say they are writing down posing as fact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

some of us here are laughing at posts like the one quoted, cuz its as far from fact as possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yep, some of us are laughing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I played for a week or two in 2001, when wildy was everywhere, and I couldnt figure out for the love of god how to sign up as a non-pker, so I got pked to no end as I was a curious guy. I was given full bronze at least 3 times, by different people, and kept losing it to people with iron and mith :P I think I had to have gotten pked an average of 15-20 times a day, although I might be remembering wrong (its been a LONG time since then).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I quit, came back a few months before rs2 came out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anywho. Dragon didnt exist at the time. Rune was the best there was, and dragon was either on the drawing board and waiting or not even thought of yet, I wouldnt know as I'm not a member of Jagex staff :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, blue gave me a set of bronze when I first came in from lumby. No idea why, I never asked her.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On item duplication: This was possible in rsc, it was an obsolete bug that took Jagex quite a while to find, and when it was published some people quickly made loads of phats and masks. Yes, I'm weird enough to read that far back into the news :P I read back to the release of ardy when I first got back from my break.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I remember, dragon was released in 2003 or 2004. By that time r2h's would have been 80k or less if my estimations are right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So much came out with rs2... runecrafting, dragonhide... dragonstones... I wouldnt be surprised if someone asks how much barrows were then :P

[imhomer]

w0w!!!111!!!! run 2hs wer rely ekspencive then!!!!11!!!!1 Does ne1 no how muhc barros was then??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol. Just kidding all. :P

[DiLord]

You guys obviously don't remeber.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Members came out durring classic in February 2002. Upon the release of members, there was dragon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At that time, r2h I belive where somewhere under a mill around the 400-500k mark, like I said. I only remember them being at 1 Mill and being able to be traded for a battle and kite. And then they just kind of did a major drop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But at the time the only dragon in existance was the sword and battle. and they were cheaper that 2 handers which I never understood(Because I was 12 or 13, young and nieve)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want some proof so you can eat your words, here you are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I belive that change was made right after I got members. Shortly after that, I stoped playing that account and just recently checked it out.

[Twiceborn]

 

 

 

If they didn't agree to sell for 50k then it wouldn't be 50k would it? Now shut up so we can get back on topic :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

your notion that all the smithers were working together is ridiculous. thats not how it was at all. prices are set by the barbarians who need them to pk. more barbarians results in a demand for more production. Regardless of your assertion, the bottom line is you are happy with lower prices as was the rest of the barbarian community. or pay double and prove me wrong

[rollerjam5]

 

 

 

 

If they didn't agree to sell for 50k then it wouldn't be 50k would it? Now shut up so we can get back on topic :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

your notion that all the smithers were working together is ridiculous. thats not how it was at all. prices are set by the barbarians who need them to pk. more barbarians results in a demand for more production. Regardless of your assertion, the bottom line is you are happy with lower prices as was the rest of the barbarian community. or pay double and prove me wrong

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where did I say smithers worked together? If you mean me using the word "Agree" that means the trade between buyer and seller, and if R2Hs were that expensive, I'm pretty sure they were already at max production. Also, if demand rose, then that would satisfy the excess production keeping the price the same. Lastly, I've never bought a R2H so can't really say I'm content with them.

[sakrifise]

R2hs were around 3m to 5m for the first few days then dropped to 2m :P

 

 

 

Musashi22 only lowered prices to around 400k each 8) Then, zezima kicked them down into the 100k range. From there I dont remember who massed produced for the current 45k price :roll:

2004 a r2h was known as being 50k.someone said selling r2h the buyer would put up 50k.it wasn't 45k.and the reason the prices went down is because more and more of them came into the market by mass producing and more people achieving the required smithing level to make r2h's.so it wasn't just one person.It was every person that bought,sold,or smithed a r2h.

[supa_newb]

dilord my recoveries were set on the exact same day!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I talked to her way back then

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

who wants to touch me?

[sakrifise]

 

 

Then dragon weps costed mills am i right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

weps? you mean amour right? dragon axe is the only 'dragon wep' that cost mills, dragon spear price had dropped...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HE's talking about back in the day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No they didn't cost mills. The only 2 dragon weapons back then were the longsword and battle axe. And you could buy those at shops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I remember when it was very strange that a Rune 2 Hander cost more than a Dragon Long sword.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I belive the 2 handers were between 1 mill and 400k at the time if I recal?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I'm going to say that that was a factor in the reason 2 handers and rune battles decreased in price too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's been so long I really can't remember.

because people in f2p couldn't buy a dragon long/baxe.So they were stuck with the r2h.

[Jimmy_Kak]

when i first found out about rune 2 handas, they were approx 1.6mil. When i bought my first one, they were 400k, when i lost it in the wild they were 200k. I remember them being 200k for a long time. No one else has mentioned this price, but it is a price that is firmly stuck in my head.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reason that prices dropped so much is because of the number 1 smithing battle between white and mush. This is the main reason, same with why rune larges fell from 200k to now like 30k. Mass rune items entering the system. I remember when rune larges were 120k, and there was a merchant selling them for 95k because he had bought about 80 for 70k each (so he told me). There was just too much rune compared to people that had the money to buy it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bluerose hasnt played runescape in a long time, she played a bit when rs2 came out, and then when slayer came out. But she has obviously not played in a long time

[nuugz]

i like how everybody is like "ya i came on in 2001 too"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dont lie, i know most of you havent because if you have THAT garbage of stats, there's no way you could of been playing that long.