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ok, for those of you who don't know im using a pc thats nearly 5 years old and runs windows 98 :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think its time to get a new one... :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what would you recommend i get for a pc?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

keep in mind that pretty much all i need to do is run MS Office (and maybe a few other apps like FrontPage and PhotoShop), surf the web, and play runescape

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and are flat panel monitors worth the extra cost?

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well it depends about the monitor yes they save space but cost more also they ghost more than normal monitors but i think they are better

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it would be a help if u set a budget and then i could find the best setup u can get for that money

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my experience :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i've got a high end 19"CRT monitor (IIyama vision master pro 454)

 

 

 

this is one of the best monitors around for home and office use and for picture quality u can't beat that with flatscreens.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

my second monitor is a 17" siemens monitor and it costs equally as much as my high end CRT.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IF the size and weight of the CRT are of NO importance i would get a very good CRT, otherwise u might wanna consider a flatscreen.

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You do not need a state of the art computer to do what you want to do, even a cheap one from dell would be fine. But, there is no point in getting very old parts... So I suggest the following. If you want the software bundle there is little wrong with getter a dell machine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I did what I consider to be the PC which is best value for money, I also did a cheap PC... Both would easily do what you want and more. The top one would also play most new games for the next few years to a reasonable standard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Price was gotten from a NZ price bot, so are in NZD, they also include 13% GST, and are the cheapest the bot could find.... I did not include O/S.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best value PC

 

 

 

AMD Athlon XP2600+ (Cost: 145)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hard-drive: 80Gb, 7200rpm (Cost: $105)

 

 

 

(Any brand, had no problem with seagate, heard good things about Western Digital)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

512Mb PC3200 DDR400 SRDRAM (Cost: $140)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Graphics card: 9600 pro 128mb ($220)

 

 

 

Sound card: (Built into mouther board)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mouther board: Gigabyte GA-7N400L nForce 2 (Cost: $130)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Monitor: LCD are not worth the extra cost unless the space is valuable, get a 17" CRT. I had no problems with the E70f from Viewsonic) (Cost: 238)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other (Mouse, keyboard, case, CD/DVD): Just buy the cheapest really. (cost <$100)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total NZ$ ($938) - GST 13%

 

 

 

Conversion into....

 

 

 

Total: 320 GBP (not includeing any tax)

 

 

 

Total: 590 USD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheap PC

 

 

 

AMD Athlon XP2000+ ($104)

 

 

 

256Mb PC3200 DDR 400MHz SDRAM: ($72)

 

 

 

Hard-drive: 80Gb, 7200rpm ($105)

 

 

 

Graphics card: Built into M-board:

 

 

 

Sound card: Built into M-board:

 

 

 

Monitor: 17" CRT, ($180)

 

 

 

GigaByte 7VT600-P-L SKT-A ATX, VIA KT600, 400MHz $110

 

 

 

Other: <$100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total NZD: $590 (-GST)

 

 

 

Total GPB: $200

 

 

 

Total USD: $370

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Update: I selected a mother-board for the "cheap pc", I think it has built in graphics. It is also $20 less then my estimate :)

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You do not need a state of the art computer to do what you want to do, even a cheap one from dell would be fine. But, there is no point in getting very old parts... So I suggest the following. If you want the software bundle there is little wrong with getter a dell machine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I did what I consider to be the PC which is best value for money, I also did a cheap PC... Both would easily do what you want and more. The top one would also play most new games for the next few years to a reasonable standard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Price was gotten from a NZ price bot, so are in NZD, they also include 13% GST, and are the cheapest the bot could find.... I did not include O/S.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best value PC

 

 

 

AMD Athlon XP2600+ (Cost: 145)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hard-drive: 80Gb, 7200rpm (Cost: $105)

 

 

 

(Any brand, had no problem with seagate, heard good things about Western Digital)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

512Mb PC3200 DDR400 SRDRAM (Cost: $140)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Graphics card: 9600 pro 128mb ($220)

 

 

 

Sound card: (Built into mouther board)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mouther board: Gigabyte GA-7N400L nForce 2 (Cost: $130)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Monitor: LCD are not worth the extra cost unless the space is valuable, get a 17" CRT. I had no problems with the E70f from Viewsonic) (Cost: 238)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other (Mouse, keyboard, case, CD/DVD): Just buy the cheapest really. (cost <$100)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total NZ$ ($938) - GST 13%

 

 

 

Conversion into....

 

 

 

Total: 320 GBP (not includeing any tax)

 

 

 

Total: 590 USD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheap PC

 

 

 

AMD Athlon XP2000+ ($104)

 

 

 

256Mb PC3200 DDR 400MHz SDRAM: ($72)

 

 

 

Hard-drive: 80Gb, 7200rpm ($105)

 

 

 

Graphics card: Built into M-board:

 

 

 

Sound card: Built into M-board:

 

 

 

Monitor: 17" CRT, ($180)

 

 

 

Mouther board: $130... (Not sure on model)

 

 

 

Other: <$100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total NZD: $602 (-GST)

 

 

 

Total GPB: 205

 

 

 

Total USD: $380

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a mobile amd 2500 would be better

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Well...I know your always complaining about your pc...and I'm happy for you your finally stepping into the 21st century :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, the flat panel moniters arent worth it, I'd rather spend the money I save on better parts for the computer. For the computer, how much are you looking to spend?

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You can get the mobile ones seperatly they are just desktop ones that have been tested and found to run stable on lower voltages, just slightly more expensive. hard to source in NZ not in USA tho.

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and are flat panel monitors worth the extra cost?

 

 

 

Make your parents pay that one and tell 'em that TFT monitors save A LOT of elektricity so that they'll have the price back in no-time :wink: :P (It's true btw).

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id suggest a dell 2400, i got one, and the starting price was only $400 including a flat scree, u can pretty much customize the ms software that comes with it.

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Best value PC

 

 

 

AMD Athlon XP2600+ (Cost: 145)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hard-drive: 80Gb, 7200rpm (Cost: $105)

 

 

 

(Any brand, had no problem with seagate, heard good things about Western Digital)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

512Mb PC3200 DDR400 SRDRAM (Cost: $140)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Graphics card: 9600 pro 128mb ($220)

 

 

 

Sound card: (Built into mouther board)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mouther board: Gigabyte GA-7N400L nForce 2 (Cost: $130)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Monitor: LCD are not worth the extra cost unless the space is valuable, get a 17" CRT. I had no problems with the E70f from Viewsonic) (Cost: 238)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other (Mouse, keyboard, case, CD/DVD): Just buy the cheapest really. (cost <$100)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total NZ$ ($938) - GST 13%

 

 

 

Conversion into....

 

 

 

Total: 320 GBP (not includeing any tax)

 

 

 

Total: 590 USD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheap PC

 

 

 

AMD Athlon XP2000+ ($104)

 

 

 

256Mb PC3200 DDR 400MHz SDRAM: ($72)

 

 

 

Hard-drive: 80Gb, 7200rpm ($105)

 

 

 

Graphics card: Built into M-board:

 

 

 

Sound card: Built into M-board:

 

 

 

Monitor: 17" CRT, ($180)

 

 

 

GigaByte 7VT600-P-L SKT-A ATX, VIA KT600, 400MHz $110

 

 

 

Other: <$100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total NZD: $590 (-GST)

 

 

 

Total GPB: $200

 

 

 

Total USD: $370

 

 

 

I honestly wouldn't go with Athlon. If you have the money, go for a Pentium...

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Well it depends on what you want ... I think that if you were to buy a new computer personally i think that you would be much better off building your own since you know what you need if that dont concern you or you dont know how than i would recommend buying anything that uses AMD over Pentium anyday hehe other than that just look for one that bests fits your needs or what you want... when it comes to flat panel moniters they do save space and they allow a much better resolution display is a bit better but overall i would say get a flatscreen and not a flat pannel since the flatscreen offers the same thing a flat panel other than the space saving abilities hehe Gluck and by the way age of computers dont matter hehe this one im on is very old and i am still using win 98se but i prefer that over xp .... i guess thats just me :P

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actually seeing as he is using photoshop word pad ect p4 with ht so u can multitask amd is good for avid gamers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

basically

 

 

 

p4= video editing , multitasking, gaming, work

 

 

 

amd = slightly better gamer than p4 but not alot then its worse at other stuff compared to intel p4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so if ur just really needing to game get amd if not then intel

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When buying something like a computer, you definately do not want to buy a piece of crap, just because you only need it for a few things. Make sure it has at least 1.4ghz I would say, Size doesnt matter, you can probably buy as little as a 10 gig hd, pentium 4 processor, 17inch screen (flat panel is definately not neccesary, tho if you have the money, why not??) and make sure it has a nvidia geforce 4 or nvidia geforce fx card installed, or a decent ati make as well.

 

 

 

1 Thing I strongly reccomend :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Research about your future computers specs before you actually purchase. This is very important.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Make your parents pay that one and tell 'em that TFT monitors save A LOT of elektricity so that they'll have the price back in no-time :wink: :P (It's true btw).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If that works i owe u a big thankyou lol :P

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When buying something like a computer, you definately do not want to buy a piece of crap, just because you only need it for a few things. Make sure it has at least 1.4ghz I would say, Size doesnt matter, you can probably buy as little as a 10 gig hd, pentium 4 processor, 17inch screen (flat panel is definately not neccesary, tho if you have the money, why not??) and make sure it has a nvidia geforce 4 or nvidia geforce fx card installed, or a decent ati make as well.

 

 

 

1 Thing I strongly reccomend :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Research about your future computers specs before you actually purchase. This is very important.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BMW

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-10gb hard drive is definetly not enough, I have an 8gb and I have to uninstall and reinstall programs constantly, just to use software. Atleast go with a 40gb.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-don't go 1.4. Go atleast 2-2.3. Chances are, that you'll eventually find a game way better than rs that demands a higher processing speed, and upgrading a processor is very tough.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-spend about $150-$200 on a video card, it all depends on your past experiences, personally I wouldn't touch ATI, they have a horrible reputation for screwing up the rest of your system if your upgrade after it's installed. If somebody realy wants, I'll post my reasons for saying this ( and believe me, I have PLENTY)

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When buying something like a computer, you definately do not want to buy a piece of crap, just because you only need it for a few things. Make sure it has at least 1.4ghz I would say, Size doesnt matter, you can probably buy as little as a 10 gig hd, pentium 4 processor, 17inch screen (flat panel is definately not neccesary, tho if you have the money, why not??) and make sure it has a nvidia geforce 4 or nvidia geforce fx card installed, or a decent ati make as well.

 

 

 

1 Thing I strongly reccomend :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Research about your future computers specs before you actually purchase. This is very important.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BMW

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-10gb hard drive is definetly not enough, I have an 8gb and I have to uninstall and reinstall programs constantly, just to use software. Atleast go with a 40gb.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-don't go 1.4. Go atleast 2-2.3. Chances are, that you'll eventually find a game way better than rs that demands a higher processing speed, and upgrading a processor is very tough.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-spend about $150-$200 on a video card, it all depends on your past experiences, personally I wouldn't touch ATI, they have a horrible reputation for screwing up the rest of your system if your upgrade after it's installed. If somebody realy wants, I'll post my reasons for saying this ( and believe me, I have PLENTY)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a tip from me.

 

 

 

dont listen to this guy he obvously doesnt know much if he thinks ati has a reputation of screwing up ur comps

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ati has a reputation as the BEST cards ever made

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depends on the uses of the comp

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

multimedia \ video \ high end games - something fast , 2ghz +, at least 1k bucks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or just plain ole RS or some other lower end games - 1-2ghz would be ok, something less than 1k bucks

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