Clans in RS?

[chewchewbarz]

I am working on a way to put actual clans in RS. I have a rough including pictures and examples, explaining everything I can think of. I am posting this for your feed-back and possible ways to make it better. I would love to see clans in RS and I am curious to see what people that actually have/are in clans are looking for. Here is my rough idea....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Clans

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First off, starting a clan. When you open up your clan tab when you are not in a clan there will be a button. A simple button that says "Start new clan." When you click this button you will get an in-game pop-up telling you about clans, what they can be used for, rules on clan names, and, at the bottom, a spot for you to type in your clan name. It will be a maximum of 25* charecters, consisting of numbers and letters only. There will of course be a filter on this not allowing profanity, racisim, ect... There will also have to be a new 'Report Abuse' option to report bad clan names, because we all know, that there will be someone out there that will abuse it. When you start a clan, you will be sent a message through from the game to your RS Message Center saying that you have 7 days (1 week) to get 9 more members or your clan will be automatically disbanded. This will prevent a single person from taking a good name and not giving it up just because they like it. After you get the initial 10 members (the 9 plus yourself) you will only need 5 members in the clan to keep the clan from being disbanded. If your clan has less than 5 people for more than a week, it will be dis-banded. I have the feeling that I missed something here and if you have anymore ideas or spot what I missed, just post saying so or PM me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, I want to talk about the clan tab. It will be on the left side of your 'friends list' tab. The list will also work very similarly to a friends list: You can see who is playing on what server, you will be able to promote/demote people from this list (talked about more later), you will have a 'Message All' option which will send the same message to all online players, the leave button which will remove yourself from the clan, and of course, the boot option. Before we continue, here is a picture of what Im talking about---

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see it also gives you basic information such as the guild name, guild leader, and number of members. There can be up to 100* members in the guild.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next I would like to talk about ranks. There are FOUR ranks in a clan. We'll go through them in order of power, highest to lowest:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First off is the King. The King can basically do anything he/she wants to a clan. He/she can boot anyone out of their clan, can promote anyone to any rank in their clan (besides King, there can only be one King per clan), perform the 'message all' feature, the king can demote anyone in the clan, dis-band the clan (a very drastic measure) and finally invite people to the clan. I saved this one for last because I have a picture explaining and didnt want to confuse anyone...

 

 

 

 

 

 

the invite option will (obviously) be found when you right click someone without a guild. When you invite them, said person, in this case Imtheman180, would get a promt asking them if they would like to join your guild with the guild name, the person sending the invite, number of members, and two buttons: Yes (to join) or No (to decline)

 

 

 

Following the King, is the Council. The Council can invite people, use the 'message all,' boot members, promote people from Jester to Member (the other two ranks, talked more about later) and demote Members to Jesters.

 

 

 

After the Council, are the Members. They are the main part of the clan. The only thing members can do is invite other members to the guild.

 

 

 

And last but not least, are the Jesters. They are the lowest of the low and probably have done something wrong to get demoted down to a Jester. Jesters have no power in the clan what-so-ever and is probably going to be used as punishment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And before I continue to the next part of my Clan idea, I want to point out that when you join a clan, you are automatically ranked as a member.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now that we've covered how to get into or make a clan, what is the point of actually being in one. Besides the fact that it will make RS feel more of a team-game, it will help in actual play (I hope). In your mini-map, all the members of your clan will be purple dots giving you an idea of how many clan-mates are close to you. And while you are in the wild or in a Player VS Player setting (besides Castle Wars and other Mini-games/areas of the sort) attacking a clan-mate will no longer be a "left-click" function... you can still attack them, but 'accidental' attacks against friendly targets wont happen as often. Both of those are designed mainly for PKers giving them a higher level of organization. But now you ask "I dont really like PK'ing... so clans wouldnt really help me." Well then, for you people that dont like to PK (me among them), there will be a new Mini-Game called Clan-Wars. It'll be located in that little spot between Varrock and Edgeville--->

 

 

 

 

 

 

Inside the arena there will be a bank, maybe not the best idea with the nearness of the wildy, but oh well. There will also be a portal, not unlike the ones in the castle wars building. A group of clan members will walk into the portal and be taken to a room where, with other clans, will wait for a game. A game will consist of at least 5 members (if your clan has 20 members in the arena, then hipothetically you could be participating in four games at once) from both clans. All matches will be randomly chosen from the available clans of over 5 people for the members of your clan currently waiting. That means that, in theory, five lvl 3's could wind up fighting a group of five level 100's. Since a group of 5 lvl 20's could easily rock a group of 5 lvl 3's and make tons of money off it, clans arent allowed to fight each other more than THREE times in a row. The battle is a fight to the death, last member of either clan wins (the entire clan that participated wins). Each member of the winning team will be given an amount of money relating to the order they died in, the number of clan-mates that fought, and if 2 or more of the winning clans members are alive, the tie will be broken by the amount of damage caused. So, to explain it I'll give you some examples. Your clans wins a 5v5. Two members of your clan are left standing at the end, Clan Mate 1 (CM1) caused 207 points of damage while CM2 only cause 152 points of damage, so CM1 would receive 5,000gp and CM2 would recieve 4k. From that point on, the reverse order of who died would be given 3k, 2k, and 1k. So if in that 5v5 you died second, you would recieve 2k. That clan match is over. Rinse, wash and repeat, this time with 20 members (max allowed playing/waiting in the waiting room [combined]). So now in this 20v20, your clan looses. No one on your team recieves any money, but the last people standing on the OTHER team are awarded 20k, 19k, 18k, so on and so on according to who's left alive and amount of damage done.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think thats about the last of it, if you have any questions/comments feel free to post your concerns. I appreciate any constructive ideas and will try to mention and give credit to anyones ideas that have made a change in the current scheme of things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Some of the actual in-game numbers may change due to memory space, visual space, and other limiting...things!... So please do not say "More members per guild Pl0x" because the final numbers that would be used in-game are completely up to Jagex, and I would have no idea on figuring those out

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for reading and a zillion thanks for the feedback. I have already started a new version of this correcting some of my errors, but I wanted to get this up before I was done so I wouldnt have to go back and do it again. Some of the things I am working on are a Clan Chat, a more user-friendly system, better rank names, fixing the problems of the Clan Wars, changing how clans are started in RS, and adding another Clan PvP area in the deep wild.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks again for reading,

 

 

 

~Chew~

[LadySarafina]

On the part of making a clan, would some cost come with this? Mostly there to stop people from making tones of clans. Like possibly the first clan a person makes would only cost 100 gp. If that person made a secound clan maybe 1000 gp, then 10 kgp, 100k gp and so on. simple to stop 1 person from making and re-making clans over and over. I would think a small amount like 100 gp would be easily atainable even for new players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would the message all option only be for higher ranking clan members such as leader, co-leader, council? It could get aufully spammy if any clan member could do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Definatly need a higher clan members cap. 100 is too small. Possibly a cap of 1000 (No clan that I know of has that many different members, but several people use more then one charater and may want their smaller characters to be in the clan also)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The names of the ranks are a bit hooky, but thats just a small detail. Also many clans have far more lvl's within the clan make-up then the 4 you have sugested. Some have multiple leaders, and girls dont want to be called "King."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The clan wars game, would this be f2p, and p2p? The concept of limiting the amount of people to only a 5v5 game seems a bit too strict. Why can't clans choose the fight rules (like dueling) and also choose how many vs how many? Some clans war with 100+ ppl in each clan. I would think a mini game to suport clans would have to be flexable enough to suport both the big and small clans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The amount of gp won you're talking about as "winnings" is too much. If 5 lvl 3's and 5 other lvl 3's go in and fight 5k is WAY too much for them to be winning. Possibly something other then gp as the winnings, and the amount of whatever the winnings are would scale to combat lvl of the average total players in that game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another thing that was not touched on is if something like this came out, all the pre-existing clans would probally go to war with each other trying to get there clan name. Example: Person A would log in and quickly make a clan called "DS". Then log into another account and make the clan name "DI". Log into a 3rd name and make the clan name "BK". Forth name and make the clan "Gladz" and so on and so on. Suport for current clans would have to be in place before everyone was freely able to make new clan names. Without there are people out there that would take the name just in spite of the actual clans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a good start, but needs alot of tweaking. The few things I mentioned are just the begining of changes that would need to be made.

[Runit3hunt3r]

On the part of making a clan, would some cost come with this? Mostly there to stop people from making tones of clans. Like possibly the first clan a person makes would only cost 100 gp. If that person made a secound clan maybe 1000 gp, then 10 kgp, 100k gp and so on. simple to stop 1 person from making and re-making clans over and over. I would think a small amount like 100 gp would be easily atainable even for new players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would the message all option only be for higher ranking clan members such as leader, co-leader, council? It could get aufully spammy if any clan member could do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Definatly need a higher clan members cap. 100 is too small. Possibly a cap of 1000 (No clan that I know of has that many different members, but several people use more then one charater and may want their smaller characters to be in the clan also)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The names of the ranks are a bit hooky, but thats just a small detail. Also many clans have far more lvl's within the clan make-up then the 4 you have sugested. Some have multiple leaders, and girls dont want to be called "King."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The clan wars game, would this be f2p, and p2p? The concept of limiting the amount of people to only a 5v5 game seems a bit too strict. Why can't clans choose the fight rules (like dueling) and also choose how many vs how many? Some clans war with 100+ ppl in each clan. I would think a mini game to suport clans would have to be flexable enough to suport both the big and small clans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The amount of gp won you're talking about as "winnings" is too much. If 5 lvl 3's and 5 other lvl 3's go in and fight 5k is WAY too much for them to be winning. Possibly something other then gp as the winnings, and the amount of whatever the winnings are would scale to combat lvl of the average total players in that game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another thing that was not touched on is if something like this came out, all the pre-existing clans would probally go to war with each other trying to get there clan name. Example: Person A would log in and quickly make a clan called "DS". Then log into another account and make the clan name "DI". Log into a 3rd name and make the clan name "BK". Forth name and make the clan "Gladz" and so on and so on. Suport for current clans would have to be in place before everyone was freely able to make new clan names. Without there are people out there that would take the name just in spite of the actual clans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a good start, but needs alot of tweaking. The few things I mentioned are just the begining of changes that would need to be made.

 

 

 

I think it would be better to make it 1 million gp to start a clan, and only 1 clan per person.

[Ben_Cousims]

Black Dragons is nh clan

[JeremyM]

Great idea =] =D>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You probably mentioned, but is this also F2P?

[SAGE]

Nobody would pay to make their clans, to be totally honest I hope Jagex never releases stuff like this in the game as it will generate clans of hundreds of members who all PK with tele runes and green dragonhide.

[Unitedforce]

Actually, I would pay to make my clan. I've played a lot of other games which have a clan system and trust, me the money system is good because it stops people form making noobs accounts to make clan names for no reason at all but to look "cool."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the ranks, there is not enough like LadySarafina said, clans in reality have a LOT more ranks than just 4, there should be a numerical system where the rank names can be changed as well as the title. For ex. The King would be number 10, and then the co-leader #9, and the lowest member #1. This way, they all have a slightly higher power than each other.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The clan chat idea is nice, but I think RS should add in a chat box if they are going to put in the clan chat thing. This way, we don't get swamped with puclic, private, and clan chat in the same place.

[endo]

I guess RS should charge 20mil,and have 10 players to start a clan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hopefully it'll be F2p.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The 20mil charge is to ensure no one abuses it

[00 Quanta]

I guess RS should charge 20mil,and have 10 players to start a clan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hopefully it'll be F2p.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The 20mil charge is to ensure no one abuses it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it has to seeing how there are a lot of F2P based pking clans

[Unitedforce]

I think 20 mil is over the top, you don't wanna over charge them because then it's going to be really hard to get a clan and people would start charging people to even enter the clan. However, if Jagex wanted to lower rare prices, charging 20 mil per clan would do just that lol.

[OmidSan]

I like that idea. I hope it becomes a runescape update. You just need a lot more changes for it to be perfect. But it's a good start.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Igna]

20 mill is just crazy. I'm sure that for every person that can -casually- afford that, there's another 250 who can't. I'll agree that pretty much everyone who makes a clan will really mean it that way, but it also means that there will be a lot of people who just don't bother with it. For those that can't afford it, and for those that can but find it to be a huge waste of money, it would be a dead update. Instead, I would think of some other requirement for founding a clan...maybe it would increase the fee of membership in Runescape (honestly, $5 isn't THAT much)?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I personally think Jagex should leave clans alone (and they've been doing a good job with it so far). Almost everyone in clans wants them to have an update for clans, but the day Jagex does, all of those people will just complain about how bad the update is and how it will bring the downfall of clans as we know it. It would change clans a lot more than most people really care to think about, and that kind of change never goes over well with the community. :?

[garrettpoole]

I think this is a great idea and i think it should just be p2p and paying like 1k for ur first clan and 10k for ur next one and so on and so forth is also a great idea. Also wat if the "King" decides he doesnt want 2 lead the clan or maybe quits rs. Does the clan just end or can he/she apoint a new "King". I also have a great idea for the clan war thing or dueling or watever u wanna call it. Instead of just money as a reward both teams before they fight should put in something like a stake in the dueling arena.