Why do you smoke it? And why did you smoke it in the first place? Peer pressure?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most people start smoking because they want to know what its like and if they like it. They keep using because they like it and it isn't harmful to them. Peer pressure is just a buzzword, it does not accurately describe what goes on in reality. Go ask the stoners at your school (if you go to a public highschool, there will be plenty around) how many of them ever experienced "Peer Pressure" to smoke pot. See for yourself the reality of the situation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pfft nobody does it because they want to "know what it's like". That's utter rubbish, you might as well eat glass "to see if it tastes nice". They either do it because they think it's cool, or they were pressured into doing so by friends or family.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We're moving away here, so i'll say it plain and simple.

 

 

 

SMOKING POT WILL DO YOU NO GOOD

 

 

Why do you smoke it? And why did you smoke it in the first place? Peer pressure?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most people start smoking because they want to know what its like and if they like it. They keep using because they like it and it isn't harmful to them. Peer pressure is just a buzzword, it does not accurately describe what goes on in reality. Go ask the stoners at your school (if you go to a public highschool, there will be plenty around) how many of them ever experienced "Peer Pressure" to smoke pot. See for yourself the reality of the situation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pfft nobody does it because they want to "know what it's like". That's utter rubbish, you might as well eat glass "to see if it tastes nice". They either do it because they think it's cool, or they were pressured into doing so by friends or family.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We're moving away here, so i'll say it plain and simple.

 

 

 

SMOKING POT WILL DO YOU NO GOOD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I did. And i can assure you I have never had problems with peer pressure. I found it boring by the way.

Pfft nobody does it because they want to "know what it's like". That's utter rubbish, you might as well eat glass "to see if it tastes nice". They either do it because they think it's cool, or they were pressured into doing so by friends or family.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess propaganda isn't a good substitute for life experience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People for the most part don't try smoking pot because they think it will transform them into somebody cool, and almost noobdy is pressured into trying it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SMOKING POT WILL DO YOU NO GOOD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I mean, it's not like anybody uses it to reduce the wasting effect of AIDS, help prevent cataracts, or make themselves happier. It's not like it's one of the oldest medicines known to humankind, grown by George Washington (who said "Spread the Indian Hemp seed wherever you go!") and proven to be completely safe by even the governments tests. It's not like the first marijuana laws in the USA were against not growing marijuana. It's not like you failed to do any research, or anything.

 

Pfft nobody does it because they want to "know what it's like". That's utter rubbish, you might as well eat glass "to see if it tastes nice". They either do it because they think it's cool, or they were pressured into doing so by friends or family.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess propaganda isn't a good substitute for life experience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People for the most part don't try smoking pot because they think it will transform them into somebody cool, and almost noobdy is pressured into trying it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SMOKING POT WILL DO YOU NO GOOD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I mean, it's not like anybody uses it to reduce the wasting effect of AIDS, help prevent cataracts, or make themselves happier. It's not like it's one of the oldest medicines known to humankind, grown by George Washington (who said "Spread the Indian Hemp seed wherever you go!") and proven to be completely safe by even the governments tests. It's not like the first marijuana laws in the USA were against not growing marijuana. It's not like you failed to do any research, or anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's not like it's completely harmless, either.

Then, why use it? Putting aside the physical and mental threats it can cause. It is also illegal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Enough said. It's no good. And will do you no good. I find it hard to believe that it is taking this long to argue a point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whether or not you believe it is good, or bad, the fact remains it isn't healthy. Saying it will do no harm and won't change you is a lie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry people.

I'm just going to throw a quick fact out there:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marijuana can help people...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Very unbiased if I do say so myself...and they'll state their sources.

It can be used as a pain killer, yes. But that's not why people have it. I'm pretty sure it hasn't been legalized to hospitals, but Green Peace is trying to make it legal.

I'm just going to throw a quick fact out there:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marijuana can help people...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Very unbiased if I do say so myself...and they'll state their sources.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pretty good site. It shows the pros and cons of both sides of the argument.

It's not like it's completely harmless, either.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, it is. Nobody has ever died from smoking pot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marijuana doesn't cause cancer (even if you find a study that says it does, courtesy of the US gov't, then users can still eat the marijuana or smoke it from a bong to avoid carcinogens). Marijuana shrinks tumours.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Using marijuana while driving or right before driving increases your risk of getting into a crash. But using fast food while driving, or using the radio while driving, or having passengers in the car, can also increase your risk of getting into an accident.

 

 

 

1.Marijuana has never been proven to kill brain cells.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont know were you pull that from probably one of your stoner mates!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I love they way you guys just post links to random run of the mill websites that say what you want them to say.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im tempted to throw up one of these websites myself http://www.stonershavenolifeofficialfacts.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just cant be bothered wasting $10 to get a point accross.

It can be used as a pain killer, yes. But that's not why people have it. I'm pretty sure it hasn't been legalized to hospitals, but Green Peace is trying to make it legal.

Did you read any of the articles? Here's:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The main goals [for medical marijuana users] were to gain weight or increase appetite, aid sleep, and alleviate nausea and vomiting. Significantly more women than men (45% versus 5%) used the drug for pain management...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/b ... id=11&op=t

 

It's not like it's completely harmless, either.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, it is. Nobody has ever died from smoking pot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marijuana doesn't cause cancer (even if you find a study that says it does, courtesy of the US gov't, then users can still eat the marijuana or smoke it from a bong to avoid carcinogens). Marijuana shrinks tumours.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Using marijuana while driving or right before driving increases your risk of getting into a crash. But using fast food while driving, or using the radio while driving, or having passengers in the car, can also increase your risk of getting into an accident.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wasn't suggesting it's harmful in the sense that it kills people, it's harmful in the sense that it can ruin your life. I've seen it happen.

 

 

Perhaps it won't kill you but look at it this way. It won't do you any favors if you DO have it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ever heard of medicinal marijuana? Anyway just thought I'd say how back in school I had this mate (well a small group of them [the "stoners", if you will]) who became a pretty chronic user and basically ended up with an obvious memory deficiency and a lack of motivation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Case in point: don't become a chronic user, it can make you an addict and is the major instance when you become addicted to marijuana. Chronic users are the only users who should be called "stoners" because they are the ones who show obvious detremental affects from the drug.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with what you say and i'll add to it. Don't use it. At all. People say it isn't addictive and it may not be, but you will have more after you've tried it once. Eventually, you'll become a chronic user and it'll start messing with your head and by that time you'll have alot of problems.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It won't do anything good for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, but I find most of your posts idiotic and just a verbatim of what they cram down your throat in Health class.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Show me a statistic that says I will get addicted if I do it once. Show me anything that says you will die if you smoke weed once.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.Marijuana has never been proven to kill brain cells.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont know were you pull that from probably one of your stoner mates!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I love they way you guys just post links to random run of the mill websites that say what you want them to say.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im tempted to throw up one of these websites myself http://www.stonershavenolifeofficialfacts.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just cant be bothered wasting $10 to get a point accross.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please go learn something. It has been proven that all that [cabbage] you hear in school was made up to scare people out of using marijuana. The only reason they teach that is because of someone wrote about how it was bad, just to scare kids out of it. All that you're saying is complete [cabbage]. You have no idea if any of my sources are credible or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One lesson you need to learn - Don't believe everything teachers and the government tells you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, don't call me a stoner. You know nothing about me. You have no idea what I do, you have no idea what my morals are.

Do not generalize posters, please. I, for one, posted a site I believe that does not seek to push either way. Like i said, ignored, by all- because you'd rather waste your time bickering- http://www.goaskalice.com is a reasonable site.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would suggest people try stop bickering, because, you are bickering because no one shows debate they merely bicker their own side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I am very hypocritical :/, I am right now generalizing, and nor have I posted anything useful aside from my first post.

I would suggest people try stop bickering, because, you are bickering because no one shows debate they merely bicker their own side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Debate is what it is. Bickering is a word people use for a debate they don't want to be involved in. The problem in this thread is that people are repeating facts which aren't true, ideas which are founded upon these facts, and concluding falsely that those who do not agree are not aware of the facts. Those who have life experience of the subject matter at hand or post sources indicating that the government sponsored "Facts" are propaganda, are mostly ignored.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pot is basically safe. It can be used irresponsibly, like caffeine, sugar, cigarettes, or alcohol, but the substance itself is rather benign. In fact, it's safer than caffeine, sugar, cigarettes, or alcohol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Francis L. Young

 

 

 

Administrative Law Judge of the US drug police DEA

I got a warning thanks to this thread woot, go me.

 

 

 

on topic ----> pot should be legal

 

I would suggest people try stop bickering, because, you are bickering because no one shows debate they merely bicker their own side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Debate is what it is. Bickering is a word people use for a debate they don't want to be involved in. The problem in this thread is that people are repeating facts which aren't true, ideas which are founded upon these facts, and concluding falsely that those who do not agree are not aware of the facts. Those who have life experience of the subject matter at hand or post sources indicating that the government sponsored "Facts" are propaganda, are mostly ignored.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pot is basically safe. It can be used irresponsibly, like caffeine, sugar, cigarettes, or alcohol, but the substance itself is rather benign. In fact, it's safer than caffeine, sugar, cigarettes, or alcohol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Francis L. Young

 

 

 

Administrative Law Judge of the US drug police DEA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Safer than sugar? Perhaps some people have a sweet tooth, but sugar (more broadly carbohydrates) are essential for your continued survival. Your brain uses carbs on a constant basis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beside that point, I can agree that some people will abuse sugar, much the same way people can abuse marijuana, but I know a hell of alot more people who have been harmed by marijuana than sugar.

 

I've been smoking marijuana for about 3 years now almost everyday. I can honestly tell you I feel no different then I did before I started, my marks are exactly the same, they didn't drop or raise, mentally I feel healthy, I keep active, and I haven't lost my motivation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Truth is there isn't a downside, I love getting together with my buddies and having a great time, just relaxing and playing halo is the best.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer me this? Why do you smoke it? And why did you smoke it in the first place? Peer pressure?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I smoke it cause I choose to and i enjoy it. It's like asking someone why they like basketball, you'd get the same kinda answer. And no I started because i was interested in trying it. Like a lot of people instead of doing the actual research myself I listened to others and all that used to get me was no where.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why keep something natural illegal? It isn't right in my opinion but I guess it's not to big of a deal, where I live the cops don't care because they know it's harmless and very pointless and time wasting to bust anyone for it.

Safer than sugar? Perhaps some people have a sweet tooth, but sugar (more broadly carbohydrates) are essential for your continued survival. Your brain uses carbs on a constant basis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sugar is not extremely dangerous, but it is more addictive and more of a gateway drug than marijuana is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sugar is the "gateway" drug...usually in the form of chewing gum...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Momentary pleasure coupled with conditioning to habitual behaviour...

 

 

 

http://politics.netscape.com/story/2006 ... comments/4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beside that point, I can agree that some people will abuse sugar, much the same way people can abuse marijuana, but I know a hell of alot more people who have been harmed by marijuana than sugar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sugar abuse is actually more dangerous to your health than marijuana abuse, and it's completely different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take a step back and think "How have people I know been hurt by using marijuana?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then think "How have people I know been hurt by the governments policy on marijuana?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you say, "Would there were no wine" because of the drunkards, then you must say, going on by degrees, "Would there were no steel," because of the murderers, "Would there were no night," because of the thieves, "Would there were no light," because of the informers, and "Would there were no women," because of adultery. -- St. John Chrysostom, "Homilies," circa 388

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Abusus non tollit usum. [Abuse is no argument against proper use.] -- Latin proverb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer

 

 

 

Those, who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Ben Franklin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Crime is contagious....if the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for the law. -- Justice Louis Brandeis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(thanks, http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/quotes.html)

 

 

 

Please go learn something. It has been proven that all that [cabbage] you hear in school was made up to scare people out of using marijuana. The only reason they teach that is because of someone wrote about how it was bad, just to scare kids out of it. All that you're saying is complete [cabbage]. You have no idea if any of my sources are credible or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One lesson you need to learn - Don't believe everything teachers and the government tells you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please refraim from engaging your keyboard before engaging your brain

 

 

 

I realise this may result in a long delay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weed is a leading cause or Schizophrenia according to the last doctor I spoke with and I think a Doctor with 15+ years in a mental hospital knows more about it than some kid getting stoned with his mates after school.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have more first hand expirience with the side affects of drugs than most people on this board (unless there are any medical staff here).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its proven that scientific reasearch is more credible than a bunch of stoner kids.

Weed is a leading cause or Schizophrenia according to the last doctor I spoke with and I think a Doctor with 15+ years in a mental hospital knows more about it than some kid getting stoned with his mates after school.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hooray for the appeal to authority fallacy!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Research between the use of cannabis and mental illness has also brought significant results. Cannabis use is generally higher among sufferers of schizophrenia, but the causality between the two has not been established.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the sources wikipedia cites for that statement:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

C̮̩̉̉cile Henquet, Lydia Krabbendam, Janneke Spauwen, Charles Kaplan, Roselind Lieb, Hans-Ulrich Wittchen and Jim van Os (2004). "Prospective cohort study of cannabis use, predisposition for psychosis, and psychotic symptoms in young people". British Medical Journal 330 (11)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

G C Patton, Carolyn Coffey, J B Carlin, Louisa Degenhardt, Micheal Lynskey and Wayne Hall (2005). "Cannabis use and mental health in young people: cohort study". British Medical Journal 325 (1195).

Please refraim from engaging your keyboard before engaging your brain

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Irony

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weed is a leading cause or Schizophrenia according to the last doctor I spoke with and I think a Doctor with 15+ years in a mental hospital knows more about it than some kid getting stoned with his mates after school.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Uh...Way to cite a source we can actually check. Guess what, I'm a borderline schizophrenic, and marijuana actually helps me reduce symptoms. The reason there is a high rate of marijuana use among schizophrenics is because of the relaxation and relief it offers. One way to show that marijuana isn't causing schizophrenia is the fact that schizophrenics show distinctive behaviors at a young age, and have a different chemical structure in their brain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.well.ox.ac.uk/~clyde/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have more first hand expirience with the side affects of drugs than most people on this board (unless there are any medical staff here).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hahahahaha.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its proven that scientific reasearch is more credible than a bunch of stoner kids.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's not like I've cited three different scientific studies, a newspaper article, and multiple google searches on key terms which will allow you to find hundreds of studies on the subject, as well as supplying a link to a video showing that the reason marijuana was made illegal was simply racism, not fact, whereas all you have done is spout vitriol about "Stoners".

I must point out DaN: You're being really ignorant if you instantly take everything on the internet as a "run of the mill bogus websites anybody can make".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Countless people cited their sources, such as the british medical journal which you can check yourself if you doubt it. Researches on .gov sites are not 'hoaxes'. They cannot be. .Edu ones are very reliable too, so what's the problem?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Earlier, I thought you're a very skeptical person, and that's not a bad thing. Now you're just showing ignorance. You take everybody who argues for this thing as a "stoner", when probably most of the people here haven't even tried drugs (including myself). It seems you're the one brainwashed, not the people posting on this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's not a flame, that's just an observation since you refuse to believe sources posted on the thread= Discussion obsolete.

I quit smoking pot a few days ago, I just stopped because I met a really nice girl and she's anti smoking. It makes me looks like [cabbage] also...

Marijuana: As bad as they say it is?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes. If used wrongly.