My Experience With The Strung Rabbit Foot

[zach312]

Actually I believe they nerfed it the day after it was released. During the day of release I cut 1k oaks with and without it on, and from what I remember I got about 20 nests with the rabbit's foot and about 5 without. The very next day I try again and i get about 5 nests each time. I kept testing it for a week and every time it came out to about the same amount.

[hyjack01]

Exactly Eccentric, willows are known for good nest drops anyway. "Greatly increasing" your chances for nests on them might be negligible anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let's say the rabbit's foot increases your chance by 5% and the willows have a standard 20% chance each time you swing your axe for a nest. That's only a change of 1 in 5 swings to 1 in 4 swings for chance of a nest. There isn't going to be much of a difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now say the magic trees have a standard of 5%. With the rabbit's foot, that's an increase from 1 in 20 swings to 1 in 10 swings, chance of a nest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see how you can base the "quality" of the rabbit's foot off data collected on an item that already has good chances to start with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For.... sake! What are you trying to proof here?? As a frequent reader of this forum i find most of your posts making good sense, but this time...The topic starter did a trial based on 74k logs!!! What do you want more before drawing conclusions?? I repeat what i said before; this amulet is just rubbish!. Dont try to explain this with some weird statistical theories.. I've had my share of statistics during education and if this (random) sample of 74k logs will not do, nothing will!

[Ambassadar]

I agree 74k logs is plenty for the test.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My point is if without it he gets 16 a day which is the low end of his average and with it he gets 20 a day which is the high end of his other average then it would be worth it. How do I know if this is the case or if the actual numbers are about the same? I need to see the actual raw data instead of general averages.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The strung rabbit foot could very well be rubbish but before I say that I would like to see raw data. My guess is it only increases the amount of nests you get by 5-10%. When the averages I see as final results vary by 25% a 5% gain would be lost in that result. To me a 5%increase is definitely worth wearing it.

[IceBlackIce]

From my experience i think they work...not "greatly" but they do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At yews i used to cut around 6k before the ammy and got around 5 nests, and now im starting to cut again WITH the rabbit and im on the 5 nests count already without even hitting the 1k mark.

[kdb148]

I like that you expermimented, but you should have been more precise with your data. "16-20 nests every 3.5-4k logs" tells us little about its effectiveness. A much better gauge would be to count the exact number of nests you get every 1k or 2k logs, both with and without the rabbit's foot. That way, you'll notice a difference, although you would have to cut a LOT of logs for it to become evident.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But in any case, it doesn't hurt to wear it, so why not wear it? Although I realy wish Jagex would tell us how much the rabbi's foot, RoW, gloves of silence, and other gear actually helps.

[Dino_Da_Gino]

yes I could have been more specific, but I wasn't intending this to be the next theory of relativity, lol. Maybe for long term cutters of willows, such as myself, it's not important to wear one. for the rest of you, cutting 1k logs or so, it might be worth it... but that's up to you. I was vague on purpose; not only because I don't think it's the most important item anyway, but because my main goal of cutting logs was not to study the rabbit foot... it was to work on 99 woodcut. taking rough data was enough for me, but if anyone wants to go cut for nearly 30 days, take precise data and work out the averages, then go ahead. I'm truly sorry for trying to be helpful, maybe next time I won't post anything at all... :-#

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

can't please all the people all the time I guess. oh well, at least 3 or 4 people understood the meaning of my post.

[Ambassadar]

I think it is great you did this. Sorry if it appeared I was jumping on your case. The thing is you don't need to find averages. All ya need to do is say x amount of nests for y amount of trees with a rabbit foot. x amount of nests for y amount of trees without a rabbit foot. That's it. Quick, clean, and simple.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry if I came across as negative towards ya. I was just trying to give some constructive criticism to get better insight into the rabbit foot. On a side note someone going for 99 woodcutting would get the most benefit from a rabbit foot if it works. Someone going for 1k logs would get the least.

[Dino_Da_Gino]

mods go ahead and lock this now

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

please

[Dexek]

I find oaks themselves are more likely to drop nests than willows. I cut 2k willows, and got 1 nest. I cut 2k oaks and got 14 nests. I then also tried with the rabbits foot, and I got seemingly more nests. I think it is entirely "random" but that the rabbits foot does help somewhat. :)

[valvewrench]

I think this is a great start to determining exactly how much help you get from wearing a rabbits foot ammy. But they sample size is actually way to small and is why his results are negligible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If he split the 74k logs evenly with and without the ammy, his nest drop percentage is only accurate to +/-.51% with 95% certainty. This is really pretty good except that the birds nest drop rate is probably somewhat less than .51% (1 in 200).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think things like the rabbits foot ammy and RoW do help, but its directly related to the chance you have without the item. I read somewhere that a RoW was supposed to help increase your chances of getting a rare by 20%. If the dragon half drop rate on a skeleton is 1 in 10000 or .0001% then wearing a RoW increases my chances by 20% to .000102.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So if my bird nest drop rate is .51%, a rabbits foot ammy may help by as much as 20% and bring my drop rate up to .612%. In order to verify this I want to be 95% certain with an error of .02%. This would give me an acceptable idea of the difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The sample size required for this would be 24,010,000 logs. And another 24 mil without the ammy. Then I would know my drop rates to .02% with 95% certainty. Obviously this is not really possible and this is why people say they donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t help and others say they help a bunch. You just canÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t tell when the percentages are so small and the difference with and without wearing an item is even smaller.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know I will always wear my rabbits foot even though I feel certain that it helps my small chance of getting a nest only a small amount.

[aj926]

 

 

 

It's just too easy to go slay the mole and fund your kingdom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What he said is the answer... Do you really want to chop 74K trees to get the amount of nests you would have gotten just by putting money into something that you profit from?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, if you're woodcutting, why not wear this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing is stopping you from wearing it. Unlinke the RoW, there is no "Amulet Competition", considering that there is no reason wo wear another type of amulet.

[fx1970]

As I already said, it is better a bit than nothing....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We know that it has an effect (they wont create an object saying it helps and it dont...), but the magnitude is unknown. Even if it had no effect, no other ammy have an effect so you can't lose anything, it is a fact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So wear it when you WC, it will increase your chances, but by how much? that is the mistery. probably not greatly as Jagex said, but a bit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And a bit more is always better than nothing...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As simple as that. end of the story

[Dino_Da_Gino]

exactly how many times do I have to say "wear the rabbit foot" before people quit posting stuff like that? ^

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

jesus, wear the rabbit foot. cook the rabbit foot and serve it at your wedding reception. adopt a rabbit foot from africa and send it to a private school in america. take the rabbit foot out on a nice date and maybe even have a tender good night kiss at the end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wear them if you want to. I never told anyone not to wear them. I said in my experience it didn't work, and I won't be wearing one anymore. I am suspicious of its ability to "greatly increase" drop rate is all. People need to quit posting what other people have said before, numerous times I might add, on this thread in an attempt to sound intelligent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

for pete's sake, all I did was tell people I didn't see any difference... you would think I suggested Jagex make a quest based on the Holocaust.

[Pyrex]

You need to enchant it, DUH!

 

 

 

I think Jagex is just playing a naughty little trick on us.

 

 

 

I mean, does a rabbit foot help you IRL? No, it makes you feel luckier/better. I think it's the same thing in RS

[Martin_Danio]

Thanks for the analasis Dino_Da_Gino, I would have liked to se the raw data but it fits with my experience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok I started gathering some data myself, but as I don't WC that much my sample is way to small to be statistically significant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I'm doing is WC Maple, alternating between 234 with and 234 without the Rabits foot, and recording all nests and randoms. I've only done a few cycles but if the trend holds, with rabits foot is wors than without rabits foot. Did two cycles tonight and got 3 nests, all without the rabits foot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So far I have got 7 nests without the rf and 2 with, that's one nest every 134 log without the rf and one every 410 with the rf. But again this smple is way to small.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If enough people do this we might gather enough data to pursuade jagex to look at it.